@hiddenlight said:
@marco_alonso said:
@hiddenlight said:
@marco_alonso said:
@hiddenlight said:
@marco_alonso said:
@hiddenlight said:
Ichigo is indeed a threat to them individually, but Kenpachi is at best Small Country Level in damage output (Then we will see a lot of eyepatch arguments being used, but unless I see the scale of his powers without the eyepatch I can't see that being used here), and that means nothing to those two. And FTL speed? I would be glad to hear that, last time I checked they were just Massively Hypersonic+, both Naruto and Sasuke are in the subrelativistic range so that means nothing, at best Ichigo is equally faster than them.
That being said, this is a cool battle, but I will wait to see more feats from Ichigo before picking a side, right now I'm siding with the ninjas. Honestly, I think that Ichigo and Yhwach (Or Aizen) would be a better team-up here.
For Ichigo a lightning is really slow and Naruto and Sasuke can evade lightnings. Yhwach and Aizen we don't know how powerful they are really. For all we know Yhwach can be universal lv since he absorbed the god and Aizen appears to be as strong as his butterfly form while chained.
For everyone here a lightning is really really really slow (I don't know about Kenpachi though), but FTL usually means Faster than Light, not Faster than Lightning, there's a huge speed difference between those. Light is around 300.000km/s while an electron drift is something around 20.000km/s in the air.http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/naruto-and-sasuke-vs-ichigo-and-kenpachi-1762432/?messageId=16119090#js-message-22
that's odd
i got 2 websites that says lightning moves at 186,000 miles per second nearly the speed of light. though the specific speed of light is 186 282.397 mile per second is pretty close anyway. but it mostly depends on the air temperature. even so if we say the speed of lightning is slower that makes no difference. Ichigo blitz lightnings, Naruto and Sasuke evade lightnings, Kenpachi while nerfed almost catch by surprise a lightning speed chick and blitz missiles casually. if we say is a modern missile as it appears then it easily makes it a feat of Mach 10+ speed. but anyway my stand is still there Ichigo is MFTLing, Naruto and Sasuke are FTLing and Kenpachi is FTS.
186000 miles per second is maybe the speed of the light coming from the lightning, light doesn't always move at the same speeds, the umidity of the air probably reduces its speed by some margin. The speed of the lightning bolt itself is the same as drift velocity and it is determined by the conductor. Of course it changes depending on the atmospheric conditions, and the fact that lightning aren't linear, but as air is a really bad conductor we don't really see anything way beyond 1/3 of the speed of light, and even that is under perfect conditions (Also depends on if the lightning is coming from the ground to the sky or the opposite).
That being said, I don't see a huge speed difference between Ichigo and the Ninja duo, actually, from everyone here, the one that holds the best truly quantifiable speed feat so far (and even in his own universe) is Naruto. He blocked Toneri's sword when the same sword took 1 second to cross Moon's diameter, and I'm not talking about when he dodged Toneri's swinging the sword, but about when he blasted Naruto right away. Of course that doesn't equal to combat speed, but means that his reaction time is way beyond what we tought. I wouldn't place anyone here in the "moving as fast as lightning" list, they all reacted to and outrunned techniques using lightning, I can see them seeing lightnings in slowmotion (Actually, I think that even Kakashi in the beginning of Shippuden is in that list), but I doubt that anyone here moves as fast as a natural lightning or have a feat that puts them way beyond the others, it's not something truly quantifiable.
Right now, I can see Ichigo being as fast as Naruto and Sasuke, but until he gets more feats I think that it's stretching too much to give him a massive advantage even with his shunpo, but I insist that Kenpachi isn't ready to be in this thread though, right now he is leagues below everyone here.
you mean the moon sized sword that toneri just swing down and hit naruto? is that a speed feat? remember ichigo at normal speed blitz lightning he can move even faster than that. Ichigo at normal speed needed a week to get to the seireitei he at full speed made it in half a day that's 14 times faster than his normal speed.
He didn't swing it down in the second time, I think that you should rewatch the fight bro:
Naruto reacted to an attack that crossed moon's diameter in one second (Put at 3min14seconds). And traveling speed means nothing, Naruto and Sasuke crossed many countries in moments when they were going to the valley of the end to their last fight lol. Everyone here can react to lightning without any problems, this don't make Ichigo special in this fight. The only problem for his team is Kenpachi, as he doesn't have the same speed feats.
naruto reacted to the same blast, yes that much is true but the speed is not said. not just the attack didn't had anu
if you see Naruto what does is run to normal speed against the blast and then charge his chakra to the hand to overpower the blast. technically what he did was this
stop a powerful attack with his bare hand. the problem is ichigo doesn't just react to a lightning he can but he doesn't just react he fly at them and even have time to charge a attack
http://imgur.com/gallery/92dHK/new
pretty much what he does is blitz a lightning. Naruto what does is counter by throwing something and sasuke telporting away. pretty much what they do is this
http://imgur.com/gallery/eUSk7/new
Ichigo is way faster than the rest in this place. Naruto and Sasuke does appear to surpass them in shown durability since they took a multicountry shaking explosion directly
http://imgur.com/gallery/nlnen/new
this was while enhanced at maximum, Naruto with Natural Chakra and fusioned with 3 clones of kyuubi and sasuke absorbed the nine tailed beast into his susanoo.
so i don't doubt Kenpachi and Ichigo will have a hard time putting them down but they can put them down
http://imgur.com/gallery/19yb8/new
you have to also remember that Kenpachi's attack was casual.
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