- In characters
- All at their strongest
- All feats are allowed
- Perfect Teamwork
- Random Encounter-No Knowledge
- Wins by Death or K.O.
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I'll play devils advocate for this one.
Garou has been shown to have better speed such as reacting and even dodging attacks from a serious Saitama who has relativistic+-FTL movement, and yes while pre-cog will be an issue Garou has shown to have quick adaptability and even in this form reactive evolution. Any speed advantage the Naruto team have is going to be made quickly naught.
Garou has also been shown to have comparable/better feats of skill compared to the duo, being able to perfectly mimic abilities after seeing them once, being able to quickly adapt to his opponents fighting style seconds into a fight and change his battle plan accordingly, and this is not even including his Doomsday tier reactive evolution which allowed him to get considerably more powerful and durable to counteract Saitama's immense strength.
He seemingly also has a form of fate manipulation via his willpower, he was able to completely resist Psyko's psychic powers and seemingly come back from death after being slashed by Royal Ripper.
that's for starters, anyone got some good feats for the duo to suggest they would stomp?
@limitlesssigil: He said that only for close quarters combat which should be obvious. But by feats, Boros stomps.
OT: Either solo.....none of Garou's feats were more impressive then what the duo has shown.
Also, we have on-panel timings of flashu flash's attacks which show that he is not any faster than sub-relativistic. All that ftl stuff has been debunked many times over.
They're sub-rel in both combat and reaction speed due to Toneri's GWRE and if they were relativistic-LS, Naruto wouldve statued GWRE, however that was not the case.
And anything above sub-rel for the duo is based on nonsensical assumptions, head canon and ofc, the names of the attacks...
Due to LF (which was stated to be undodgable, bent upon Madara's head movement, has not shown properties of light and wasnt even showed how Naruto dodged it)?
Due to Gai disroting space (which according to theory of relativity is absolute nonsense)?
Due to Delta's beams (because they have not shown properties of light to being with)?
Which one exactly?
Inb4 Vegeta's "Big Bang" is actually a big bang... cause, uh, "tHe AtTaCk'S nAmE sAyS eVeRyThInG".
The simple fact that it disorts space doesnt mean its moving at rel speeds, but ofc, you keep ignoring that as usual, i dont mind it. Disorting space is applicable for speeds starting from even single and double mach.
The effects are visible only to the traveler, nobody else.
But, yeah, uh, he disorted space, so, muh, he's near LS...
And ima bring again GWRE, calcs put it at mhs+ to sub-rel. Naruto was able to match it, therefore he's sub-rel in speed at most. If he was LS, he shouldve statued it like nothing.
@wanderez: Which is completely incorrect, show me on person in real life who can confirm that the effects are only visible to the traveler. Oh wait not a single person has ever done it.
If you weren't so deadset on lowballing a verse you would see every flaw in your argument like everyone else does.
Let me explain it in the most, most simple way...
Black holes exist. There's one in the center of our galaxy. They're famous for their space-bending capabilities and the only reason why we see them, is because they interact with other matter and electromagnetic radiation, which later on form some kind of extremely bright orbits around them.
@wanderez: Ok now explain how that applies to Naruto verse when the beings there are millions of times faster, stronger and more perceptive than a human. You're a clown mate trying to apply physics to people who constantly ignore the laws of physics.
Oh, so now apperantely it doesnt aplly?
Why all of a sudden?
So, all calcs for all different verse in fiction, ranging from calcs for FTL feats and galaxy buusting levels of energy... dont apply?
Im a clown? Lmfao, look at you buddy. Now suddenly we dont apply theories, calcs, science, cause our little boy has his fav verse to death at sub-rel speeds.
Well, now that science doesnt matter in fiction anymore, your majesty, space distortion is just space distortion.
@wanderez: Physics do apply just not perfectly to people who are shown to ignore the laws of physics all the freaking time, you're trying to apply something humans don't even know as fact (Theory's aren't proven) to beings who can ignore the same laws of physics without trying.
How do you not understand this? Why are you playing dumb?
Oh, so now we jumped to theories dont have to apply perfectly? Woah, what a surpise (sarcasm, im not surprised at all).
Oh, nvm, now theories arent proven. Well, why are you trying to use that GOD DAMN theory to prove YOUR point? And not the whole theory, you just ignore it all and take the part that suits you.
What a joke you are lmfao
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