Naruto and Sasuke runs team gauntlet

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Round 1: Lucifero, Asta, and Wizard Kings

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Round 2: Merged Psykos, Tatsumaki, and Genos

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Round 3: Hachimaru and Ata

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Round 4: Magi Team

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Round 5: Ikaros and Astraea

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Round 6: Aizen and Yhwach

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Round 7: Goku, Broly, Vegeta

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Rules

No divine intervention or reality-warping cards

Morals off

Naruto/Sasuke gets the first attack

Pre-godhood Sinbad

Genos does not have a time limit

Manga/Anime/Novel feats

Location: Forest

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They stop at 1, also out of order

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@laufnyr said:

They stop at 1, also out of order

What needs to be changed?

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@kasya_carey: swap 1-2, they'd stop at 2. All other rounds they get folded

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Stops at 1. Black clover is too fast and too haxed for the Naruto team

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@laufnyr: Team BC is faster but OPM has better DC and AP scaling

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#7  Edited By Undre

@kasya_carey: what? How are they more hax then black clover team?

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@undre said:

@kasya_carey: what? How do the hax then black clover team?

I mean scaling off Orochi. He did a small planet-level feat with the core. Merged with Psykos and amped by god they scale above that. Tatsumaki is above merged Psykos and Genos is able to compete briefly. This is why I have the team above BC.

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#10  Edited By dogsrus

if its so6p naruto and sasuke they stop at 3 they cant beat ada faster stronger and more haxed for bc team

asta simply gets overpowered lucifero gets erased or trapped on genjutsu or six paths ct and gets robbed of his powers and for the kings don't see them being too much of a factor sasuke just dimension dumps

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@dogsrus: No ability other then anti magic or saint stage works on lucifero and has his passive gravity renders tso and the Naruto's team immobile

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@dogsrus: No ability other then anti magic or saint stage works on lucifero and has his passive gravity renders tso and the Naruto's team immobile

sasuke also has gravity manip tsos negate any none senjutsu energy including reality manipulation shown many times like with omnipotence and again that would be the same as me saying that naruto is untouchable because all so6p users ave limited invulnerability to non senjutsu attacks which they don't have lucifero has never seen something like soul rip genjutsu on sasukes level or sixpaths ct which removes the users powers and seals them in a moon al;l win cons and for speed they are ftl+ at best with feats naruto is there as well blitsing raikage called at ftl+ mftl for bc is wank seeing as light is still treated as a weapon in verse

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@kasya_carey: BC got far better hax and Speed gap Is insane, OPM team Is way below them. AP Is Always below hax, and they wouldnt even beat Lucifero due to DH with AP alone.

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@dogsrus said:

@undre:

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@dogsrus: No ability other then anti magic or saint stage works on lucifero and has his passive gravity renders tso and the Naruto's team immobile

sasuke also has gravity manip tsos negate any none senjutsu energy including reality manipulation shown many times like with omnipotence and again that would be the same as me saying that naruto is untouchable because all so6p users ave limited invulnerability to non senjutsu attacks which they don't have lucifero has never seen something like soul rip genjutsu on sasukes level or sixpaths ct which removes the users powers and seals them in a moon al;l win cons and for speed they are ftl+ at best with feats naruto is there as well blitsing raikage called at ftl+ mftl for bc is wank seeing as light is still treated as a weapon in verse

That's a lie bruhh tso was affected Garvity and have been frozen aswell. Their overrated

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@undre said:

Stops at 1. Black clover is too fast and too haxed for the Naruto team

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@strawdiv said:
@undre said:

Stops at 1. Black clover is too fast and too haxed for the Naruto team

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Doesn´t round 1 blitzes hard?

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@undre said:
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@undre:

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@dogsrus: No ability other then anti magic or saint stage works on lucifero and has his passive gravity renders tso and the Naruto's team immobile

sasuke also has gravity manip tsos negate any none senjutsu energy including reality manipulation shown many times like with omnipotence and again that would be the same as me saying that naruto is untouchable because all so6p users ave limited invulnerability to non senjutsu attacks which they don't have lucifero has never seen something like soul rip genjutsu on sasukes level or sixpaths ct which removes the users powers and seals them in a moon al;l win cons and for speed they are ftl+ at best with feats naruto is there as well blitsing raikage called at ftl+ mftl for bc is wank seeing as light is still treated as a weapon in verse

That's a lie bruhh tso was affected Garvity and have been frozen aswell. Their overrated

yeah by kaguyas dimension wich are made with so6p chakra

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They could stop at r1, and aren’t getting past r3.

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Stop at 3. 3s a complete mismatch

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@undre: they weren’t frozen, you can literally see them casually moving through the ice in the scan you posted.

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Stop at 3. 3s a complete mismatch

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Damn... that´s an official scan? o.O

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Stops at 3. 1 will give them trouble but they will pull through

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@theheadmasterxx: no unless you beleive in mftl black clover which it isn't both of them should be relative with blackclover team being faster but not by a wide margin

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@dogsrus: Black Clover is def MFTL even using just PTS feats they're faster than anything in Naruto.

With just a couple feats we are already operating within in the higher ends of FTL+ and this is just base Asta before the time-skip.

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Stop at 1

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@decaff: cool kid naruto and sasuke have better feats out running some one who is ls pre timeskip and naruto has actual ftl feats reacting to toneris moon cutting beam which is actually ftl movement speed they only have ftl+ combat speed naruto has ftl+ movement and travel speed and sasuke combined with naruto makes them too haxed naruto alone sure but even then debatable combine sasuke and its a wash sixpaths ct oneshots genjutsu oneshots seal steal oneshots king of hell oneshots tsos and so6p chakra nullify any energy attack and they don't have the physicals to hurt them and so6p also nulls reality manipulation

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@undre: they weren’t frozen, you can literally see them casually moving through the ice in the scan you posted.

Their was no casually movement at all. They were still affected by the Ice moving much slower then normally. Kaguya wasn't even concerned about them she was only concerned about Sasuke's amertarsu breaking her ice

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@undre: what about it still no anti feat seeing as the dimensions is made from so6p chakra

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@decaff: cool kid naruto and sasuke have better feats out running some one who is ls pre timeskip and naruto has actual ftl feats reacting to toneris moon cutting beam which is actually ftl movement speed they only have ftl+ combat speed naruto has ftl+ movement and travel speed and sasuke combined with naruto makes them too haxed naruto alone sure but even then debatable combine sasuke and its a wash sixpaths ct oneshots genjutsu oneshots seal steal oneshots king of hell oneshots tsos and so6p chakra nullify any energy attack and they don't have the physicals to hurt them and so6p also nulls reality manipulation

Haku isn't moving at LS here, he explicitly held back against the duo, and was running low on Chakra.

Even if we steel-man the argument that he was moving at LS it would be an outlier due to the fact that in the exams the cast is explicitly Super Sonic - Hypersonic.

So your argument collapses.

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#33  Edited By Shadyyyyyy

Can and likely will stop at 1 due to speed feats and some hax, can win tho

Beats the ever living shit out of 2 , no difficulty

3 solos the Naruto verse

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#34  Edited By dogsrus
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@decaff: cool kid naruto and sasuke have better feats out running some one who is ls pre timeskip and naruto has actual ftl feats reacting to toneris moon cutting beam which is actually ftl movement speed they only have ftl+ combat speed naruto has ftl+ movement and travel speed and sasuke combined with naruto makes them too haxed naruto alone sure but even then debatable combine sasuke and its a wash sixpaths ct oneshots genjutsu oneshots seal steal oneshots king of hell oneshots tsos and so6p chakra nullify any energy attack and they don't have the physicals to hurt them and so6p also nulls reality manipulation

Haku isn't moving at LS here, he explicitly held back against the duo, and was running low on Chakra.

again his speed isn't power based its haxed based when he reflects himself he moves ls

Even if we steel-man the argument that he was moving at LS it would be an outlier due to the fact that in the exams the cast is explicitly Super Sonic - Hypersonic.

no the only reason sound is seen as a weapon is because no one can see it base lee couldn't dodge it because he couldn't tell what it was he was surprised to what hit him however kid garas sand has mhs+ feats blitsing an explosion point blank base lee blitses that and sasuke becomes as fast as weightless base lee ls is not far off seeing as kakashhi who also has ls feats needed his Sharingan to keep up with 1st gate and up chunin exam lee

So your argument collapses.

so it doesn't

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@dogsrus:

Work on your formatting, please.

again his speed isn't power based its haxed based when he teleports he moves ls

It's chakra based, and he was low on chakra.

no the only reason sound is seen as a weapon is because no one can see it base lee couldn't dodge it because he couldn't tell what it was he was surprised to what hit him however kid garas sand has mhs+ feats blitsing an explosion point blank base lee blitses that and sasuke becomes as fast as weightless base lee ls is not far off seeing as kakashhi who also has ls feats needed his Sharingan to keep up with 1st gate and up chunin exam lee

1.) This doesn't prove they're LS, they're still in the Super - Hyper sonic range and it's consistent.

2.) Kakashi has no LS feats this early and he didn't need the Sharingan to see Lee moving, he used it see the gates opening.

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@decaff said:

@dogsrus:

Work on your formatting, please.

again his speed isn't power based its haxed based when he teleports he moves ls

It's chakra based, and he was low on chakra.

no the only reason sound is seen as a weapon is because no one can see it base lee couldn't dodge it because he couldn't tell what it was he was surprised to what hit him however kid garas sand has mhs+ feats blitsing an explosion point blank base lee blitses that and sasuke becomes as fast as weightless base lee ls is not far off seeing as kakashhi who also has ls feats needed his Sharingan to keep up with 1st gate and up chunin exam lee

1.) This doesn't prove they're LS, they're still in the Super - Hyper sonic range and it's consistent.

no blitsing garas sand alone puts him in relativistic zone

2.) Kakashi has no LS feats this early and he didn't need the Sharingan to see Lee moving, he used it see the gates opening.

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he does blocking itachis ls water bullets and he did he needed his Sharingan to see gated lee's movement speed

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@dogsrus: Gaara's sand is Hypersonic at this point in time, and Itachi's water bullet is not Light Speed, that's hyperbolic.

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@dogsrus: assuming she made all of them. She wouldn't need go to her core dimension for more chakra She would be able to get it from her other dimensions. That would mean their not made of chakra. Also sasuke would have able to absorb the ice if it was chakra. She uses yin yang release to make planets which creates real things not things made of chakra

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@decaff said:

@dogsrus: Gaara's sand is Hypersonic at this point in time, and Itachi's water bullet is not Light Speed, that's hyperbolic. and it isn't its already been called too Mhs+ when he was 4 years old he was around 15 when lee fought and blitsed a faster version of his sand

hypersonic is something tamari can casually do deflecting sound with her fan casually hypersonic speeds and btw that is temari who is fodder to naruto

no they are stated light speed canon>>>>>>>headcanon

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@dogsrus: assuming she made all of them. She wouldn't need go to her core dimension for more chakra She would be able to get it from her other dimensions. That would mean their not made of chakra. Also sasuke would have able to absorb the ice of it was chakra. She uses yin yang release to make planets which creates real things not things made of chakra

yes but just like tsos which are real things not chakra they nullify so6p chakra which is why that happened and her core dimension is the one with the most chakra which is why she needs it all her other dimension have a lot less chakra she is always passively absorbing chakra but she can gain the most from her core dimension and it is stated she made them google translates to spun which means to weave or create

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@dogsrus: Lee barley keeping up with a guy who's super sonic speed lol

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And part 2 reaches lightning speed at best with only god tiers being faster then this

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#42  Edited By Decaff

@dogsrus: Deflecting Sound isn't hypersonic on it's own.

Statements can be hyperbolic.

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They stop at 3 and this is out of order.

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@decaff: if you can prove so thenyes and it was hyperbolic stating some thing flat out isn't hyperbolic especially when its precise such as saying some this is ls isn't hyperbolic it wasn't described or hinted it was stated ls

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@undre said:

@dogsrus: Lee barley keeping up with a guy who's super sonic speed lol

lies lee couldn't see where the sound was coming from he was getting hit but he didn't know by what slower people have reacted to that sound unless your claiming temari is faster than lee the same temari who was slower than sasuke sasuke gots blitsed by weighted lee even with precog

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And part 2 reaches lightning speed at best with only god tiers being faster then this

nope tenten who is fodder was casually dodging real lightning point blank

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and deidaras explosions are faster than normal explosions they are enhanced by chakra so it is pointless we know normal explosions are blitsed by garas sand but deidaras sand could give him a hard time

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@dogsrus: The statement is from the databook not the manga and there's no supporting evidence, again the series is consistently Hypersonic in the exams.

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@decaff: no it isnt garage has massively hypersonic feats since he was a child gara in the exam is much faster the average genin are mhs to mhs+ lee naruto and sasuke were not average genin sasuke was the fastest graduate and naruto was amped by ninetails to a point where zabuza said he was more powerful than kakashi and we know it was less than a 10x amp since 1 tailed cloak was a 10 times amp

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@dogsrus: Gaara has Hypersonic feats as a child which would make Lee with his gates high Hypersonic+ maybe low MHS

Still leagues from LS

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#50  Edited By dogsrus
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@dogsrus: Gaara has massively Hypersonic feats as a child which would make Lee with his gates high Hypersonic+ maybe low MHS

Still leagues from LS

again if you have mhs+ feats as a small child when you are offgaurd then you are faster

lee blitsed an older stronger on guard gara in base meaning garra is base line relatavistic in base we know base lee is slower than tailed beast enhanced naruto and mentalamps do happen in the naruto verse sasuke was mentally amped when he caught haku so it would be faster than his normal self however not leagues faster like you are implying