Naruto and Bleach switch villains(Round 2)

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#1  Edited By floydfromhell97

Scenario 1:Team Ninja vs Yhwach

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Scenario 2:Ichigo, Aizen, Renji, and Uryu vs Momoshiki Otsutsuki

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Rules:

  • In characters
  • All at their strongest
  • Chakra=Reiatsu
  • All Feats are allowed
  • Each team has Methods to Kill/Seal the Villain
  • Perfect Teamwork
  • Random Encounter-No Knowledge
  • Wins by Death or K.O.
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Team Bleach wins, Aizen can solo Momo has no resistance to KS.

Team Naruto wins if they get the plot device team Bleach had.

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#3  Edited By Gilateen

Team Bleach Beats momoshiki.

Team Naruto Beats Yhwach with Seal.

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Ywach stomp with no diff. Aizen can solo momo, a team with Aizen vd momo, is judt a stomp .

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Scenario 1: Naruto teams dies, they can't stop attacks from the future.

Scenario 2: Mommoshiki gets stomped, Aizen, Uryu or Ichigo could solo. Chakra=/= Reiatsu so he isn't absorbing any of their attacks.

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@invadedtbd: Only Aizen can solo, the other two get killed.

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Yhwach stomps

Team Bleach takes it in a good fight

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@tetsukage: lol you again.

They definitely can solo, Mommoshiki can't tank a Gran Rey Cero or combat the antithesis.

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@invadedtbd: he can Dodge the GRC and he can paralyze everyone here with shadow binding.

Aizen solos due to KS and being a immortal, Ichgio and Uryu have no such advantage.

Also antithesis doesn't work when the attack completely Kills you such as a charged TBB would.

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@floydfromhell97: Is energy equal? It effects both matchups so it's important Info.

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@tetsukage: did you forget soul reapers fly? He isn't binding anyone with shadow possession lol.

Doubt he would dodge it, in character he likes to try to absorb attacks.

He better hope it kills him because if not, the damage will be reversed.

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@invadedtbd: OP says energy is Equal so he does absorb it and launch a stronger version back, also he binded Naruto who has precog and is faster than Ichigo... Naruto can also fly....

Any attack he sends at Uryu is going to kill, this is pretty much Aizen vs Momo and Aizen wins.

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@tetsukage: when did Naruto fly that whole fight? When did he fly after war arc please enlighten me?

He still has shitty piercing durability and Ichigo physicals are comparable to Kenpachi, he gets sliced up.

Like I said he better hope it does because if not it will be reversed.

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@invadedtbd:

1.) Momo doesn't fly so why would Naruto need to?

2.) Wrong, he no sold Sasuke's blade the same blade that stabbed Naruto with ease, the same Naruto who no sold a full power chidori and a moon slicing chakra blade.

3.) There is no hoping it will, Naruto and Sasuke are confirmed Continental and he went toe 2 toe with both.

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#17  Edited By ourmanuel

@tetsukage said:

@invadedtbd:

1.) Momo doesn't fly so why would Naruto need to?

2.) Wrong, he no sold Sasuke's blade the same blade that stabbed Naruto with ease, the same Naruto who no sold a full power chidori and a moon slicing chakra blade.

He most likely grabbed sasuke by the arm, not the blade itself. Momo spent quite a lot of time dodging swords in that fight and the same arm that you’re referring to got pierced by sasuke’s kunai.

3.) There is no hoping it will, Naruto and Sasuke are confirmed Continental and he went toe 2 toe with both.

Shikamaru’s statement can interpreted differently and it actually implies multicontinetal naruto and sasuke, despite the fact that it doesn’t make any sense and contradicts their feats.

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@tetsukage: the point is you said he could and he hasn't shown he can since war arc, so nice excuse.

Ichigo is physically stronger than Sasuke and has cut people who can use blut vene, which amps durability so I don't think that matters.

Naruto and Sasuke are confirmed continental by DC not their physicals and Mommoshiki doesn't have an attack that has the same DC. You are scaling wrong.

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#19  Edited By Loveeveryone2

Since you said all feats then video game Hokage Naruto stomps by himself. No one in Bleach is tanking a Explosion Level attack like this that can be seen covering a good portion of the planet.

https://youtu.be/Fqg4Pf_d3qA 1:33

And even if Juha Bach can see into the future doesn’t mean he can do anything to stop the duo. Naruto has almost insane pre cog and would dodge anything Juha pulls out of his behind.

https://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/677/11

https://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/677/12

This is what would happen if Juha Bach tried to place traps against Naruto like Ichigo in the links above

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/683/4

https://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/683/5

Also it’s time for Juha Bach fans to know the truth. If Ywhach has lower AP by a little or a by lot than his opponent, then there is no possible future where he can become stronger than them or beat them. As such, switching to or shaping any future cannot save him from getting one shotted. It doesn’t matter if you can see into the future, if you don’t have the power to crush your opponent with this foresight, all its good for is dodging or running away.

A 4 year could have almighty powers but against a grown adult there is no scenario he would be able to hurt the man even if the child could see the future. It’s rendered moot if you can’t hurt the tank.

Momo beats team bleach if Chakra = Reiatsu. Anything fired will be thrown back twice as strong. And EOS Ichigo doesn’t have good durability feats.

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S1: Yhwach solos

S2: ichigo or Aizen solo with ease. People forget that momo’s feats weren’t that good and he definitely wasn’t that fast either.

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@invadedtbd:

He knocked Naruto out, so he's at least as strong as him.

Sasuke has better AP than Ichigo and failed to penetrate Naruto's cloak, his sword did, and it failed to cut Momoshiki.

Also it's all feats so Momoshiki scales to Planet level game characters which I didn't know before so he might actually win now.

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@ourmanuel: there is no way Ichigo is beating a energy equal Momoshiki who has game Feats.

Aizen yes because of KS but Ichigo isn't IMO.

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@tetsukage: that was definitely pis. He fought Naruto after and hit him and none of those attacks knocked him out, definitely pis.

Ichigo has better AP than sasuke, and like I said he has cut people who can use blut vene, which amps durability.

How does he scale to planet level game characters, did he fight the game characters with planet level attacks? No he fought the continental characters from the manga and anime. Once again scaling wrong and reaching.

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@invadedtbd:

Because Naruto and Sasuke didn't use any jutsu that would give him that power, Ichigo doesn't know what Momoshiki does and Ichigo isn't tanking a GRCx2 which would be Country++ or continental in AP based on Ichigo's feats.

No he doesn't Ichigo is Country+ Sasuke is continental in both AP and DC

Momoshiki can tank Kaguya's and Naruto's final attacks in the game, that's well above Continental.

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@tetsukage: lol another excuse. You claimed he was as strong as Naruto because he knocked him out. I told you that pis and explained why, now you switch your argument. Smh.

Anybody in the game can tank those attacks, anybody from part 1 of Naruto does that mean they have the same durability, no it doesnt. Weakest argument I have seen ever lol.

Don't tag me anymore with nonsense, you are just reaching all over the place at this point to justify your arguments. Just stop.

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@invadedtbd: How am I switching my argument? He absorbed a TBB and knocked him out, you asked why he didn't do it again so I replied "Naruto and Sasuke didn't give him any jutsu to use" that's not changing the subject at all.

Even if we ignore the game feats which I'm fine with, Ichigo can't beat Momoshiki. And I'm down to CaV this if you are under these same rules.

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@tetsukage: IMO Narutos durability has always been much weaker than his damage output. Energy and physical alike. He’s a glass cannon. Momo knocking him out doesn’t imply equal strength. Simply enough to overpower narutos durability, which is lower than his attack power.

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@noah_ouellette: Naruto tanked a country-ish level blast without any chakra in his body, so less than base, he also taked two moon splitting beams.

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@tetsukage: Look I don’t even watch or read Naruto. I just know he’s a glass cannon mate.

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#30  Edited By gabrielbelmont

S1: Yhwach solos

S2: Aizen solo

op proving that he is a coward who needs to equalize the energies.

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@noah_ouellette: I just posted two factual feats that disprove that, take away Naruto's energy output and many people would consider him a brick

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@tetsukage: Fair enough. Brick in his own verse I’ll give ya that. But compared to marvel bricks? Nay. Anyways argue against the people who are still arguing momo gets stomped.

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@noah_ouellette: Only two Bleach debaters here have any credibility and that's Faraday and Ourmanuel, Gabriel and Invaded are wankers I'm just trying to bait Invaded into a CaV because I think I can beat him.

And Shaggy is a troll.

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#35  Edited By InvadedTBD

@tetsukage: im the wanker when I argue with facts and you argue with speculation and assumptions. LMFAO

Also trash bait lol, that's why it was ignored.

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@invadedtbd: I argue with 100% facts that I can back up with evidence from the manga.

You do not, which is why I offered the formal debate to settle things but you're not game.

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@tetsukage: lol where are the facts for Delta's eye beams being LS? There are none just speculation.

Like I told you yesterday a Cav with you would be a shitshow lol, which I am not willing to participate in.

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@invadedtbd:

1.) Already explained this I won't do it again, I'll just wait for it to be confirmed in simple terms so you can understand it.

2.) If that's the excuse you want to use sure. If it's a shitshow on my part it's an easy win for you right?

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Wow, what's with the bleach wank lately? Uryuu solo stomping momoshiki?lol

OT:Team Bleach gets stomped, Uryuu is fodder, ichigo and aizen can't hurt him or keep up with him.

Team Naruto wins, with either using seals or genjutsu.

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@tetsukage: what do you not understand about "not willing to participate in a shitshow", doesn't matter how easy it would be.

I've already handled you in a couple debates, honestly don't need to cav to beat you in a debate. I can do it in any random thread.

Last post cuz I'm not gonna help you derail this thread. Peace lol.

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@invadedtbd:

Except you never have "handled" me.

I accept your concession, and I don't mean the CaV I mean this thread you can't prove Ichigo would beat Momoshiki under these rules.

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@tetsukage: already proved it in posts 15, 18 and 23 not gonna repeat myself, refer to those posts for confirmation.

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@invadedtbd: And I countered after each post, in which you failed to counter back.

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#44  Edited By AZATHOTH_GOD

@invadedtbd: Did you just said that Uryu solo Momoshiki

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Wow, what's with the bleach wank lately? Uryuu solo stomping momoshiki?lol

OT:Team Bleach gets stomped, Uryuu is fodder, ichigo and aizen can't hurt him or keep up with him.

Team Naruto wins, with either using seals or genjutsu.

They can't keep up with a guy who couldn't react to, and was hurt by, a CLONE of Boruto?

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The Naruto team overwhelms and seals Yhwach.

The Bleach team can beat Momoshiki if they play it smart with Aizen's illusions and Uryu's antithesis. If Momoshiki one shots Uryu and if the Bleach team spams energy attacks at him, he will absorb them and fire back, pretty much putting them out of commission, except for Aizen due to his immortality, but Momoshiki can arguably drain him like he did to Naruto, or seal him as he should know some seals since one of his followers sealed Toneri.

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@ultimatesage said:

Wow, what's with the bleach wank lately? Uryuu solo stomping momoshiki?lol

OT:Team Bleach gets stomped, Uryuu is fodder, ichigo and aizen can't hurt him or keep up with him.

Team Naruto wins, with either using seals or genjutsu.

They can't keep up with a guy who couldn't react to, and was hurt by, a CLONE of Boruto?

They can't keep up with a guy who couldn't react to an arrow either...:/

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Yhwach could take it if he doesn't do stupid.

Space cop goes into the wrong hood and doesn't make it out.

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#50  Edited By Undre

@ultimatesage: lol uryu was pretty much a god tier. Boruto is absolute fodder. Uryu isnt kage level lol. He can keep with Haschwalth whos casually blitzing sterns. Uryu can reverse anything mommo throws at him. He literal let mommo damage him really bad reverse the damage on to him. And one shot

Boruto and gara could keep up with him just fine tho