Namor vs. Colossus and Luke Cage

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#51  Edited By MICKEY-MOUSE

@hyperlight: @95_Til_Infinity: yes as you can see from the scan above the writers have turned Namor into the new Hulk....remember when every character in the Marvel universe had to beat or fight the hulk to prove how "cool" he was? Well now they are doing that with Namor....

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Here is mentioned battle. Right to left, as usual.

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The last one is just Gillen at his best :-D

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@lukehero said:

@hyperlight: @95_Til_Infinity: yes as you can see from the scan above the writers have turned Namor into the new Hulk....remember when every character in the Marvel universe had to beat or fight the hulk to prove how "cool" he was? Well now they are doing that with Namor....

I guess.

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@95_Til_Infinity: I don't know if I already mentioned this here....but they had Superior Spiderman punc and knock down Namor...

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#56  Edited By youmessinwithme

.... this is terrible.

Based on Namor's high end showing He throws luke Interstate or more then beats colossus useing his equal or Superior strength on Land or gets him in the water where he should be far stronger and he's faster on Land too plus can fly faster than escape velocity (mach 37?)

Also if he has his trident he one shotts both of them.

lets not forget than Namor has fought guys like Sentry and Hercules and taking an axe to the face from terrax the enlightened and has mayed apocalypse run for his booty, he's also defeated the Hulk more than once sometimes causing tsunami's and earthquakes when he KO's the Hulk and blast's him 5 miles through the air (from underwater) the shockwaves also level buildings in atlants (which they aren't even in).

So yeah if Namor's not jobbing He just throws away luke takes Colossus than goes and finds luke and beats his @$$ hard.

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#57  Edited By MICKEY-MOUSE

@youmessinwithme: He shouldn't even need to do that, the OP says it's a rainy day....He back hands them both while jobbering the entire time....people just hate Namor because he is a jerk...He's still stronger than these two....

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@lukehero said:

@youmessinwithme: He shouldn't even need to do that, the OP says it's a rainy day....He back hands them both while jobbering the entire time....people just hate Namor because he is a jerk...He's still stronger than these two....

yes but on Colossus's best day he's made fault lines tremor and blown out windows miles away. Namor could still beat him in a brawl but it would be a fight in the rain, and really close on dry land, but if he uses his speed, fighting skill, flight energy projection etc. He mops the floor even on dry land.

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@youmessinwithme: Namor and Colossus have the same base strength as 100 toners....But while water is touching Namor's skin...his levels shoot way up....He'll one shot cage(who in this fight is irrelevant in the first place. Namor's combat skills & Experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>Colossus.

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@lukehero said:

@youmessinwithme: Namor and Colossus have the same base strength as 100 toners....But while water is touching Namor's skin...his levels shoot way up....He'll one shot cage(who in this fight is irrelevant in the first place. Namor's combat skills & Experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>Colossus.

Sometimes Namor still takes time to draw strength from the water it's not as soon as any is touching his skin, Thor one shotts him in the driving rain and than later comments that Namor seems to be growing stronger. His levels shoot way up when in water. but he has been shown too fight Hercules and the Sentry on land so he's still strong enough to slug it out with colossus and win.

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#61  Edited By MICKEY-MOUSE

@youmessinwithme: We both disagree on some points....but we at least we agree on the outcome....Namor may need time, but he will not have trouble with Colossus as he is building up his strength, Colossus is NO THOR.

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#62  Edited By youmessinwithme

@lukehero said:

@youmessinwithme: We both disagree on some points....but we at least we agree on the outcome....Namor may need time, but he will not have trouble with Colossus as he is building up his strength, Colossus is NO THOR.

haha no I was just using that as an example of him not getting all his strength as soon as he touches water. sometimes though he is shown total rejuvenation from even condensation.

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@lukehero said:

@youmessinwithme: I hear ya :)

just thought i'd clear that up, since almost everyone is shown a huge variation in power sometimes.

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#65  Edited By Hyperlight

namor is dope.... colossus too

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The team wins. Cage is being written stronger and more durable than ever lately, while Namor is been written weaker.

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He KOed She-Hulk with one punch, and caused a destructive wave that leveled the whole block, just from the force of his punch..

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@juggy313:

Actually She-Hulk isn't too impresive currently too. Above You can see Namor taking out Cage, using his body to one-shot She-Hulk and then give Thing equal battle on land without rain. Here, he has only to fight two of these three (considering that Colos is pretty equal to Thing), on rain. That is pretty good reason to give him win.

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@juggy313: And wasn't that an alternate Luke Cage during the AoU event, and not the 616 version?

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@ghostravage I mentioned the tech because she didn't really use it in her fight with Luke, so their encounters aren't all that comparable. I think her reputation as Thanos' top general feared across world's would suggest that she's pretty formidable in a h2h fight. We also see her smiling as she's flying through Earth's orbit so there's a durability feat right there.

He didn't actually beat her, in fact at first she sucker punched and K.Oed him after some good blows. But then after a rallying cry from the citizens, he gets back up and gets his licks in until Thanos' giant head comes and interrupts. This is what happened before big purple came.

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what happened after Thanos arrived?

did he kill Luke ? 0_O

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@rocketstark:

No, he never came there. She left, becuase he summoned her.

@juggy313: And wasn't that an alternate Luke Cage during the AoU event, and not the 616 version?

AoU is original Earth 616. Everything happening there counts, becuase this Earth wasn't created by time-jumps, it was changed by time-jumps. Yet, New Earth wasn't created because it was done through Doom's machine.

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#72  Edited By God_Spawn  Moderator

@czarny_samael666: It is still technically alternate versions of the characters. That's not current Luke Cage or She-Hulk, and a character's power can change in the future. Apparently Luke Cage gets strong enough to bust a city block and one shot someone like She-Hulk despite main 616 never displaying the ability to do so.

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@czarny_samael666: It is still technically alternate versions of the characters. That's not current Luke Cage or She-Hulk, and a character's power can change in the future. Apparently Luke Cage gets strong enough to bust a city block and one shot someone like She-Hulk despite main 616 never displaying the ability to do so.

But this is what happened in 616 Earth. It isn't some unknown future, but 616th one gived few days ti what we have seen in AvX. I would support it even if this would be 10 years into future, because what is not shown - did not happen. If this would be alternative reality - You would be right, but this is actually the original one.

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#74  Edited By God_Spawn  Moderator

@czarny_samael666: It still doesn't matter. Many what-ifs are considered the 616 versions of characters but are considered non-canon. The showings aren't the main canon versions of the character, ergo they aren't themselves. If it isn't mainstream 616 Luke Cage and She-Hulk, then the feat isn't usable.

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@ghostravage I mentioned the tech because she didn't really use it in her fight with Luke, so their encounters aren't all that comparable. I think her reputation as Thanos' top general feared across world's would suggest that she's pretty formidable in a h2h fight. We also see her smiling as she's flying through Earth's orbit so there's a durability feat right there.

He didn't actually beat her, in fact at first she sucker punched and K.Oed him after some good blows. But then after a rallying cry from the citizens, he gets back up and gets his licks in until Thanos' giant head comes and interrupts. This is what happened before big purple came.

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Old comment I know but the seismic activity was because of Suma gorath not because of luke cage and proximal midnight.

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@czarny_samael666: It still doesn't matter. Many what-ifs are considered the 616 versions of characters but are considered non-canon. The showings aren't the main canon versions of the character, ergo they aren't themselves. If it isn't mainstream 616 Luke Cage and She-Hulk, then the feat isn't usable.

No, You don't understand me. What ifs, are about unknown future, something that maybe could happen to Earth 616, but it is not and thus called differently. Age of Ultron is what actually happened, until it was changed. What comes from the change could be considered alternate Earth, like Age of Apocalypse. Age of Ultron is the original Earth without any time manipulation. Current Earth 616 is AoU after time jumps. Similar with what will happen in Uncanny Avengers. Or what happened in X-M:L Legion's story. It all counts, but was reverted, changed after the fact.

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@czarny_samael666: it doesn't matter regardless. The fact is it isn't current 616 versions of the characters, ergo the feats aren't usable.

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#78  Edited By czarny_samael666

@czarny_samael666: it doesn't matter regardless. The fact is it isn't current 616 versions of the characters, ergo the feats aren't usable.

How are they not current? They are, they weren't changed in any way. The same with all mentioned stories. Changes in time didn't affect them. It was clearly said when IW and Logan met Pym.

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@czarny_samael666: because it isn't them...what is so hard to get?

We will have to disagree about it, becuase they are the same people. Nothing changed for them. It is like saying that Legion's win with Magik in X-M:L deosn't count, because after 10 issues he reverted time.

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#82  Edited By Starbrander

Colossus is one of my favorites of all time, but Namor would probably take it dry or wet. Cage would get one shotted.

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Colossus is one of my favorites of all time, but Namor would probably take it dry or wet. Cage would get one shotted.

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namor.

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Namor.

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#86  Edited By Juggy313

Team wins... The only reason Namor took him out easily was because Luke was under water and was "growing weaker"(couldn't breathe).. Cage is a heavy weight now.. If him and Colossus came at Namor at the same time, they would beat the s*** outta him...

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It's raining and that's what Namor should actually be doing instead of getting beat up by Luke and colossus!

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Much closer than I initially thought.

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#89  Edited By God_Spawn  Moderator

Namor in a hard fight. Colossus does the heavy lifting for his team while Cage's durability keeps him in it for a little bit. But with the rain and Namor's flight and speed advantage, I can at least see him separating Cage with some distance and picking him off before he takes on Piotr, similar to how he dealt with Luke's team in UXM V.2

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Colossus, because there is no way the other two can hurt him and he can survive the vacuum of space without food, water, oxygen or rest.