Namor (MCU) vs Wonder Woman (DCEU)

• Hand to Hand Combat Only
• No Gear/Weapons
• Located on a Large Beach
• No BFR
• Win by fatality
• No prior knowledge
• Namor is not Dehydrated
• Bloodlust

Gearless Diana still wins this

Would you like to compare feats?

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I don’t think Diana has striking near this level.

Punching through Jabari wood and breaking Mbakus staff casually

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It’s a vibranium level material…

Plus this is shown on screen.

Shown on screen how it infused the plants ^^

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Im willing to compare striking, or strength (she lifted a tank he throws wakandan ships), or dura (even weakened he took a explosion that wrecked a ship and busted large rock formations, and took a panther AOE that busted large rock formations.

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Honestly.. dehydrated Namor beats Diana H2H.

Below are dehydrated feats.

Cracking ground with bullrush punches and slams… even dehydrated Namor is above Diana’s striking feats ^^

Even dehydrated he tanks blasts that bust large rock formations.. did this after he took the ship explosion that also busted large rock formations.. can someone show me Diana striking feats that can hurt even dehydrated Namor?

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Diana has mid tier stats, Namor is likened to the Hulk and punches through material with parity to vibranium.

Namor wins 10/10…you could dehydrate him and he’d still win 10/10.

People are really out here debating for Namor like he did something in Wakanda Forever. Namor has no skill, durability, strength, or striking feats to believe he has anything more than a 50/50 % chance of winning this if he's lucky.

This fight takes longer because there is no gear but Diana eventually wins this with laughably superior skill and battle prowess

Namor tears her apart

Facts!!!

Namor has shown superiority via feats, idk what the people who are saying WW are basing it off of tbh.. Namor clearly superior.

Wonder woman managed to fight Doomsday for a bit. She is stronger and faster than Namor.

Namor stomps. Far better stats and flight advantage.

He's a team buster by DCEU standard.

WW wasnt physically matching DD, she was reliant on magic gear, shielding from punches and using her Sword to deal damage... I dont think shes anywhere near as strong as DD

Im also not sure you can say DD can punch through Vibanrium, and Namor punched through material with vibranium parity.

In a H2H weaponless fight...I think your punches scaling over vibranium >>> you being able to block DDs hit with aa shield.

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Stand alone strength feats...Throwing aircraft 100s of meters over and over >>> struggling lifting a tank.

Tosses Wakandan jet.

Throws another Wakandan jet with his spear.

Spins and throws helicopter.

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Speed.

Id rate Namor as faster as well.

Man was consistently blocking energy shots his whole movie...weakened he could match a bullet timing panther, tachalla could cut a bullet in 3...and even dora have blocked bullets from machine guns.

Namor himself was explicitly too fast for the Wakandans to hit with their aircraft.

Blocks and dodges wakandan energy projectiles, again, again, again

Riri comments that they cant hit her, and builds a suit that she thinks can......

And Namor was still able to dodge her shots.

Dodges a shot from Ironheart from behind in a very impressive manner.

Defects and dodges more shots from Ironheart.

Deflects missiles.

Dodging Ironhearts blasts from behind >> Dianas feats.

Ill explain why.

Even before she made a something she thought could hit Namor.. her old suit blasts where faster than military drones.

Then she made a new suit with after she specifically said your ships cant hit him let me build something that can...these new blasts were fast.

I can show these are photon blasts, which makes sense...Riri was trying to build something that could tag him.

Photon blasters that should be given he same respect we've given Thanos, Wanda, Jedi and characters from a dozen verses.

Anyway... still no striking feats form Diana....... and Namors striking has been shown.

Namor wins I think.

Namor

@death4bunnies: she was matching him one on one. Doomsday punched her a few times that produces mach cones and she took it while smiling. She even took his laser without damage.

The way you always make her battles h2h really says your bias on her

@jozeee7:

She took hits to the shield (that she doesn’t have here) and was not match him in anyway aside from having a blade that could deal damage.. nothing about BVS suggested she was as strong or as durable as the kryptonians…WOG confirms she can only hang due to magic ..and her later appearances confirm it.

So all you have in BVS is weapons feats, weapons striking and blocking hits with her shield.

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Still no shown striking feats for Diana that are close to Namor punching through stuff with vibranium parity…it’s not like she doesn’t have unarmed striking feats.. WB even said they were moving away from the sword and she did WW84 without a sword(final battle at full power sure don’t look DD level).

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Diana’s DD scaling just doesn’t hold up anymore than Spidey/Thanos scaling.. Diana vs DD was accomplished with weapons she doesn’t have here.

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Im once again compelled to ask for unarmed striking or strength feats from Diana near what I’ve shown for Namors unarmed strength and striking.

@yejj: The way that I can make a thread however I want to really says I don't care.

Eh

Unarmed WW isn’t beating a Hydrated Namor.

She’ll put up a fight, but alas.

Her shield only helps the direct impact but she is still taking the force. The same way high speed car crash still damages you even though the car doesn't physically hit you. Momentum still does. Going from 0mph to a high speed instantly is devastating to the body and wonder woman took that power plenty of times against Doomsday without issues. When she lost her shield after his punch is when she started smiling, so her losing the shield wasn't that big a deal for her apparently. She also took doomsday's laser no problem.

What thanos/spidey scaling? Spidey got destroyed by thanos and Thanos has been tagged by everyone. Captain America took a punch from Thanos. Thanos holds back and doesn't go for kills. Doomsday is a mindless monster and is by default bloodlusted. So Diana does scale to Doomsday while Spidey and Captain America do not. She's even taken hits from Superman without being damaged much.

@jozeee7:

So still no striking feats for Diana.. and the only dura you’ve mentioned was to a magic shield and magic bracers… that scaling is ridiculously broken, she wasn’t DD level in BVS physically, and she sure wasn’t near that level in her other 3 movies.… 4 movies you’d think she’d have better lifting than a tank, or better striking then walk level.. but she clearly does not.

Unarmed feats have actually been provided for Namor, from punching through material with partity to vibranium, to throwing aircraft 100s of meters.. i think his physical feats are simply better.

Namor takes this…even dehydrated Namor has better feats than Diana.

@death4bunnies: why do you keep claiming magic shield when there's nothing magic about it or the bracers.

She fights with a sword and shield, of course she won't have much in strength feat or striking. Fighting doomsday, stopping his fist cold and knocking him around should be enough to establish her strength level

OT: Unharmed, namor can't even move her, she resisted doomsday's emission about as easily as superman, namor can't hope to harm her

@saihuter: Sure thing, mid-woman

@death4bunnies: what magic stuff? It’s an extremely durable shield, that’s all. The bracers energy thing is from her, she did it for the first time in the match against antiope iirc, the bracers seem more like a focus, they are not magic, same with the tiara in case you want to go there.

She has been in 4 movies sure, 1 was from a hundred years ago when her power just started growing, we didn’t see her real power until the ending against ares or are you going to use her training against the amazons as proof of her real power, doesn’t seem beyond you either. Another movie was in the 80s where she was losing her power for most of the movie, she even struggled to open a door. Her only relevant appearances are in BvS and Justice League because that is present time and she uses her sword and shield there so I don’t know what you’re on about moving away from. What is she doing with magic weapons? Having her shield means absolutely nothing without her strength behind it, stopping doomsday with her sword is not magic, that’s pure strength. She might not be Superman level but she is close enough to matter, being able to stall doomsday on her own proves that.

I honestly don’t know what’s wrong with you, they are not magic. Anyway I was talking about the electrical emissions.

Jabari wood is not vibranium, vibranium is vibranium. You’re probably one of those that also think wakandan sand is also vibranium level.

Theres no unharmed feat for steppenwolf either, I’ll let you figure out why that is

I’m trying to figure out where in your edit it says the shield or sword are magic, we already know it’s the sword of Athena, nothing about it being magical

WW so easily. Namor lost to shuri lol. She doesn’t even scale to t’challa haha.

@DammeFavour:

Bruh, you can see the inscriptions light up.. it says the bracers absorb energy but your still saying it’s just her..seems any evidence provided won’t be accepted if it doesn’t fit your preconceived notions...she makes an energy barrier with them, accompanied by that magic sound. And I already said I’m looking for the other WOG….in no way does blocking stuff with magic (or special gear)equate to raw stats.

She wasn’t depowered at the final battle of 84 and after 4 movies you can’t show a relevant strike or strength feat without said gear.

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Whats wrong with me for thinking Jabari wood is on par with vibranium? Like what?

Its not just me who thinks Jabari wood has parity to vibranium.. it’s the creators who outright confirmed it… and the movie also showed the wood being infused.

Punching through Jabari wood and breaking Mbakus staff casually

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It’s a vibranium level material…

Plus this is shown on screen.

If you can’t accept that Namor punched through something that has parity with vibranium (while pretending weapons feats count as unarmed feats) that’s fine.. but to act like I’m insane for believing the movie and the creators is kinda funny.. the intent is it has parity to Vibranium.

Still no unarmed striking feats for Diana huh?

@death4bunnies: you mean like how superman’s forearm also lit up? Try again. Where does it say that it absorbs energy, didn’t you guys also try to use that claim for her absorbing lightning even though it was coursing through her entire body? Again, the energy is hers, like I said she could already use the energy mistakenly during her fight with antiope and that was her weakest, before she got the gear.
Again, jabari wood is still wood, strong wood but still wood, same way the vibranium alloy used in AoS is still not full vibranium, plus it was taken down by a battering ram.

Again, tempered wood is still wood, extremely durable wood but it is still wood.

Let's put it this way. In terms of strength even the suckiest versions of Wonder Woman could one shot Shuri or completely trivialize her in a fight in short order. Meanwhile if you put a Namor fresh out of the ocean against Ares, Cheetah, Doomsday or Steppenwolf they'd kill him immediately. Different tiers and everyone with eyes can see that.

Hard to say. I have them about even tbh. Big lol at Namor losing to Cheetah or Ares 🤣

Diana still always got to be a nerf to a DC character lol

Fair battle, but I'd say Diana.

Diana whoops him, even when nerfed

Namor is way more impressive.

Namor

@allfugger: why, what did he do in Wakanda Forever? What striking, durability, skill, strength feats does he have?

What exactly is Namor doing to Diana?

Here is his RT I’m working on.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/mcu-namor-respect-thread-spoilers-2284000/.
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Dura, unarmed strength, and unarmed striking have been shown for Namor …. Can we ask for some unarmed strength/striking feats for Diana that are better?

Namor unless he's dehydrated

Namor, I recall much more for him without gear than Diana.

Diana stomps

Namor extreme diff

Namor in a great fight.

Namor.

Has either better/comparable stats.

Diana without gear would get loose to War Machine… she’s literally that weak lmao.

Cracking dirt ground and punching Shuri is now above Diana lol

These feats must be above Arishem then.

Namor burned and almost died to fuel fire. This God blast vaporizes him.

You have a Guppy who lost to Shuri. We have Diana Who went blow for blow with Steppy, Doomsday, Ares(defeated) and Superman, all above the likes of Thor, Hela, Thanos, Hulk. To think it was purely her sword and shield allowing her to perform these feats is preposterous, It was her raw speed, agility, dura and strength. Unarmed or not WW beats an army of Namors.

@logicbomb:

Cute explosion…

let’s put them aside by side.

Dianas feat.

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dehydrated Namors feat.

One busted a wooden room the other busted a Wakandan ship..Namors feat is clearly better.

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Your next few gifs finally showed sone Duana striking!!! so kuddos for that.

Ares feats—-

First one does nothing, second doesn’t crack the ground..visually below even dehydrated Namor.

-Steppenwolf.

This literally wall level feat might be Diana’s best striking feat visually.

Busts a wall and cracks another wall.

This pales in comparison to what Namor tanks while dehydrated.

This is underrated tbh.

Again dehydrated^^
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-Superman

Hitting Superman’s head back is bullet level.

Let’s not pretend Diana scales in any meaningful way to Superman.

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Namor still has the better striking even dehydrated.. let alone hydrated when he can punch through material that has parity with vibranium…even dehydrated he beats her with his feats of overloading the panther suit/busting the ground with strikes.

She has nothing comparable to destroying Vibranium ships (while dehydrated). Fully Hydrated he snaps her arms and oneshots her. Her striking feats without gear are either hard to gauge or non existent

Diana should have a sizable speed advantage but he’s probably physically more intimidating

Also, didn’t M’baku break his staff over Namor. All namor did was block it I’m pretty sure