Namekians vs Saiyans [Hostile Takeover]

Nameks on Planet Namek (Lead by Nails)

vs

Saiyans from Planet vegeta (before planet blew up)

Lead by King Vegeta

Saiyan is naturally superior

Wrong. Most Saiyans are incredibly weak without the full moon. King Vegeta / Bardock were the strongest Saiyans when Vegeta blew up at around 10,000 power level. Most / all of them were far below that.

Unnamed namekian warriors were read at 3000 power level. Nappa was only 4000 some 20~ years after Vegeta blew up. (20 years of constant battle no less). Nail himself was 42,000.

Without the full moon, the Saiyans get curbstomped. Even then, Nail can only be taken down by King Vegeta or Bardock with the full moon.

We also know that outside of Prince Vegeta, all Saiyans have shown suspectibility to getting their tails grabbed. An enormous weakness.

@fallschirmjager: k

Honestly might depend on the numbers.

Nail would solo without a full moon

Namekians could use dragon balls for strategic advantage, and that old fat namekian could power them up.

Namek ftw

Saiyans easily

Spite nail rofl stomps with ease

However, saiyans had an entire army (granted, comprised of characters ranging from low (raditz) to high (nappa) level) compared to what, ten namekians we know of that are strong?

The deciding factor here is nail, considering how far ahead he is in terms of power level, he is enough to turn the tables towards the nameks imo.

HOW?

Namekians win (Nail solos) if their is no full moon / artificial moon.

Even if someone creates artificial moon, nail can fuse with any warrior namek & solostomp all apes.

I'd say he can fodderize most of them, giving that we know in early DB, relative small gaps in power (a couple thousand) made characters invincible to others. Nappa had his way with the Z fighters at 4000, when most of them were around 1000.

Meaning all those unnamed Nameks at 3000, would fodderize Raditz level Saiyans. And Recoome was toying with Vegeta at 40,000 and 30,000 (iirc) - respectively. And Nail only has to fight 2 fighters who are 1/3 of Vegeta's strength when Nail is 5% stronger than Recoome.

The only trump card here is that line about Vegeta claiming Bardock was the one who invented the energy ball moon thing Vegeta uses to go oozaru against Goku in the Saiyan Saga. We never saw Bardock use that, but if he could, and did, it would obviously change things to allow Bardock or King Vegeta to solo.

Namekians more than likely

@fallschirmjager: There was also namekian warriors at around 10,000.

@adamshumpisxxx: where exactly in that video does it say the 3 namekians freiza fought had 10k PL?

1. By power levels from official sources, Saiyans eventually win, but Nail makes sure to wreck so much shop they dont even feel like celebrating. The average Namekian (2-4000) is stronger than the average Saiyan (Radditz level: 1200-ish), but elites like Nappa (4-5k) were stronger than most Namekians, and there is no reason to expect much variation among them because they only have one warrior: Nail (40,000+). I could argue 40+ saiyans with PLs of 1000 could beat him, much less the entire Saiyan population. And as far as population goes, saiyans have conquered worlds and spread far beyond their planet, where as Namekians live in scatered villages on one world. It's incomparable. If this was a group, or even an army, Nail would matter. But this is the entire population of them. LOL @ Nail soloing

2. By feats from all official media, King Vegeta blows up Namek while standing on it but survives somehow.

3. By manga feats only, likely the same outcome as 1.

4. By DBMultiverse, Namekians curbstomp. Saiyans were a threat to first form freeza, and only as a group, and only on the full moon. All Namekians fused solo'd final form freeza. This is the biggest stomp of any of these situations.

Saiyans aren't really that strong as the beginning of Z had u believe. The strongest among them was Vegeta and his powerlevel only maxed 180,000 with a full moon

@theman44: Vegeta is a prodigy and doesn't really count. Radditz is a good example of a low tier while Nappa is a good example of an elite. The real factor here is population, though, not individual powers. Nail, while strong, is still inferior to even one Ozaru.

@thelocust619: ok if Nappa is an elite his power level as an ozaru would still be slightly lower than nails.

Nappa base form is 4000

Nappa ozaru is 40,000

Nails power was 42,000 while suppressed

@theman44: True, that last part may have been a stretch. Let's say "comparable". That's great n all, but the Saiyans have no doubt survived even multiple Ozaru attacks...being the same race and all. A single character with comparable power to just one isn't soloing the entire race, is what I was saying.

That aside, my central point was the number of Saiyans, not their individual power.

@thelocust619: oh ok. Yea they were superior when it came to numbers

Er

@fallschirmjager: Actually if you remember Vegeta said that he passed his father in power long before he could tell what a power level was. Also even if Nail fuses the Saiyan ape form multiplies their power ten folds so considering the fact that there were, let's low ball it, thousands of Saiyans on planet Vegeta before its destruction. I personally think the Saiyans win

@hypnos0929 said:

Consider that by the time we get to see Namek, most of it had already been devastated by frieza's forces, we don't really know how many namekians were there to begin with. from the few we do know, we have Nail 42k, 3 with around 10k, who can each give a fight (and maybe even win) to Bardock or King Vegeta, 3 warriors of around 3k (that demolished a group of around 20 Raditz lvl fighters), 1 namekian that can seemingly heal all wounds on touch unlimitedly, 1 namekian that can buff other people, and spheres that can grant up to 3 wishes.

With these alone they certainly win without a full moon (Nail and Porunga mvps). With a full moon, the only chance the nameks have would be wishing for the saiyans to get back to normal (its anyones guess whether that would work or not)

@rukelnikovftw: I don't think Porunga can wish people away, remember how they tried to get shenron to wish away Vegeta and Nappa? So unless Nail can beat thousands of Saiyans at once, some who can probably create moons like Vegeta, then the Namekians have a shot. Plus I'm pretty sure they, the Saiyan race, have never really attacked a planet all together, except for the tuffles, because by the time of their death they were already a bunch of unstoppable monsters who could have taken the Ginyu force if a full moon were around.

@hypnos0929: Porunga does't need to wish the saiyans away, only the moon/energy sphere that makes them go Ozharu

@rukelnikovftw: you know the Saiyans could just create new moons, right? Plus all they need is one to go great ape

As per the OP, the Namekians are lined up with Nails as their leader, and are going to fight the Saiyans.

Realistically, I don't think the Saiyans have much of a chance here. Even assuming the Saiyans can put up a 100% even fight with the Namekians, they'd still lose. The deciding factors to me are:

1. Namekians can regenerate entire limbs in a relatively short time. Which means the Saiyans are going to suffer injuries far greater than any Namekian will, and can be removed from the battle with a decent mortal wound.
2. Dende can 100% heal people almost without limits. If he is with a group of their greatest fighters, he'll likely allow them to stomp all over the Saiyans with relative ease.

Overall, regeneration and healing kinda gives them too much of an advantage in my book. Plus they should have a numbers advantage. Plus, if all the Namekians are there, that would mean that the Dragonballs will all also be there. Which means if something happens to turn the tide of the battle, the Namekians can wish back fallen comrades, wish for greater power, or possible wipe out any advantage the Saiyans give themselves.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@hypnos0929: That's why i said it's anyones guess whether it would work or not, the dragon balls are a clear plot device, do they have the power to prevent saiyans from going Ozharu? who knows?

@rukelnikovftw: oh yeah I never thought of that. Well I guess it depends on how strong the elder is, if he is strong than the Saiyan apes I guess I'd work. But yeah people talk about the Namekians regeneration but they forget that they lose power after healing

Saiyans if they use the ape transformation.

Namekians more often than naught.

good post. Plus there may be possibly more healers.

They can wish the tails to go away.

And if saiyans can go great apes, namekians can fuse. If one namekian fuses with nail, it'd be more than enough to fight great ape king vegeta, the strongest of them.

See above

He was full power

1. There were hundreds of saiyans before frieza killed them. Nappa was 4000 (After 25 yrs of fighting & zenkais from this time) & was the commander of army, & elite, plus from official sources, there were about 10 nappa level saiyans at that time. This is PL of about the same as avg namekian warrior. There were about 14 % warriors of 110 namekians from official sources, about 16 warriors (avg 3000) & they can take this level saiyans. Some were 10,000 by anime, & so will be able to take all them at once. Remaining can take on low class warriors like raditz. Nail can take kid vegeta & king vegeta (and anyone else strong enough) all at once destroying them. And if there is no full moon, lol @ nail not soloing. Nappa at 4000 was fodderizing 4 people with PL about 2000 & more. Nail will roflstomp hundred 1200ish levels.
2. Inconsistent with manga & anime, plothole.
3. By manga only, no one is even close to nail, & by manga only, 25% PL difference is more than enough to stomp someone casually. Here the difference is like what? 4 times? 10 times? No chance in hell.
4. Agreed.

Namekians win

Uh, no, Saiyans were not incredibly weak, that's ridiculous. They're not all the strongest, obviously, but on average they're a powerful race especially if they tap into their Super Saiyan forms or Super Saiyan God forms, not just Great Ape. Just because some Namekians had 3,000 Power Level doesn't mean all or most do, and we don't know the average Saiyan Power Level, just statements of them being a power warrior race.

Without any transformations I still think the Saiyans would win because, even though Nail is very powerful and could take several of the most powerful Saiyans on at once, he's the only one who would make a huge difference in the fight. Namekians are divided into two types, Dragon and Warrior and only Warriors are especially proficient in combat, and are also fewer in number (in fact, the Namekians only number just over 100).

There's no way that Namekians could win against the Saiyans when the majority of their people aren't even Warriors, and the only notable one being Nail. Nail will be dragged down eventually while the rest of his people are slaughtered while a few put up a good fight.

The only way I can possibly see Namekians winning this is if the Namekians did a bunch of fusion, drastically cutting their numbers but increasing their power. It's not something they tend to do, though, as only Nail did is right when he was about to die anyway. If they're bloodlusted there's a chance they'd go for this option and then we can start the great speculation of '15.

Tl;DR: Nameks get curb stomped.

@irhp87: see my post above you. I explained how namekians win.

Saiyans due to numbers. Nail is the only threat, but nothing a full moon can't solve.

Where in that fight does it state they are around 10.000? Frieza only said they were weak. He never mentioned their PL.

The warriors in the village were around 3000 and it looked like the other nameks considered them hot shit. So that leads me to believe 3000 is a pretty standard PL for fit nameks.

Nappa at his maximum was fighting equally with Goku, who has a base PL of OVER 8000!! So that means elite saiyan warriors severely outclass nameks. Even if there are only a bunch of them, they should have a decent amount, because there are hundreds if not thousands of saiyans.

And that is even disregarding the possibility of a full moon. Even weak saiyans like Raditz would stomp all over any namek other than Nail. He is basically the only one that matters. But oozaru King Vegeta, nappa or another elite can take him out.

@apex_pretador: If Nail fuses all it would take is one blast through the heart to kill him, plus I doubt they'd use the dragon balls. As for King Vegeta being the strongest Saiyan before the explosion that's a lie. King Vegeta was weaker than Vegeta and Bardock. Plus if you use logic I'm sure some Saiyans had medical training, i mean how else did they learn about the zenkai boosts? So Saiyans win

How?

Also, @apex_pretador and @theman44 , Nappa at full force is close to Goku. His 4000 PL is before powering up.

@apex_pretador:

1. Gonna need proof that there were only hundreds of Saiyans, with only 10 elites. They overpopulated their own planet before being conquered and spread throughout the galaxy by Freeza. He specifically had them all gather back on Vegeta in order to eradicate them. In comparison, Namekians were modest, lightly spotting a single planet with incredible distances between villages. No average namekians were 10k in the anime, don't pretend you can read whatever alien language Freeza can read (it looks about as much like english as it does geometry...it's not a known language). Nail will roflstomp until they gang up on him. As soon as he clears out a general area, he gets carpet blasted by hundreds at once, game set match. And now, according to u, only 14% of Namekians are proficient fighters, whereas 100% of the more numerous saiyans are. Pretty beat odds for Namek.

2. Nope, nothing inconsistent. Piccolo blew up the moon at under 2000, King Vegeta is closer to 10k. He can bust a planet, and according to all referencable official material (anime+manga), he can. So, from a standpoint of both the anime and manga...he has done it on screen and you can't even dispute it.

3. Stomping a small group is not stomping a loaded planet. If Nail could do it so easilly, Freeza would have just sent Zarbon to eradicate the Saiyans. But he didnt, because the whole point of blowing up Vegeta was because they were starting to rise up and, working together, could have been, in Freeza's own admittance, a threat. A low threat, but still...he sure didn't feel the same about the namekians lol. Saying Nail can stomp a planet of saiyans shows a huge lack of understanding of both the series and just basic reasoning. He has no answer for being showered to death with hundreds of energy blasts over a large area, and 14% of Namekians arn't enough to save him.

TOOLS: Also, if namekians get dragonballs, saiyans get artificial moons. Let's not make this stomp worse than it is.

SKILL: And foremost, the biggest factor besides population and the number of actual fighters is skill. Saiyans have combat tactics and skills that allowed them to survive with each other and dominate countless other worlds, whereas Namekians...farm. As we know, skill has bridged the gap between stronger fighters before, even by multitudes. Goku is a prime example, so is Vegeta.

ZENKAI AND HEALING: And finally we can address the zenkai boosts: the Saiyans obviously just havnt been getting them. In order to receive a full zenkai boost, you need to be beat half to death but that rarely happens because they work in squads, defending each other. Just two ass beatings (including 1 by Dodoria) put Bardock up enough to plow through his entire race and 3 (Freeza) put him in range of becoming an SSJ. That's insane. The only explaination as to why average saiyans havnt recieved such massive boosts constantly is simple: they don't lose often, at least to the point of near death) And being that a fight between entire planets would take days at minimum, there is plenty of time for many to receive actual zenkai boosts (and tbf, the namekians can heal their wounded which would be great if more of them could actually do anything)

CLOSING: The only way Namek stomps is if they out-populate the saiyans to bridge the skill/number gap (given there are so fewer legit warriors) or if they have non-cannon dbm feats. The main fact is, there's more saiyans in one single bar on Vegeta than there are in an entire village on Namek lol

Even by basic math, if we had 100 on each side and we lost one fighter on each side (hell, let's say 3 for the saiyans, since Nail is so tuff omg) every second for 10 seconds....the namekians are down by more than 2/3 of their designated warriors while the saiyans are still at 70%. Those are odds John Cena would hesitate to f*** with. But now add in the fact the Saiyans are starting with more people than the Namekians even have, so not only do their warriors outnumber Namek's warriors, they outnumber the entire population lol.

Saiyans get the Albino treatment

@cpt_nice: because Bardock fought in many battles and obtained more Zenkai boosts. He alone could kill every human on earth, just like Nappa could. Plus Saiyans grow more powerful the longer they fight, and King Vegeta never really went on conquering missions

Even after his last Zenkai (unless you count getting stomped by Dodoria and attacking Freeza, where he was half dead) he was not on King Vegeta's level

@cpt_nice: Yea he was both had a power level of about 10,000. Bardock was weaker at first but he rose through the ranks due to his fighting abilities, and many zenkai boosts. King Vegeta never really did any fighting he sat on his home planet and let his squads conquer many planets. Bardock would have been fighting for years and gaining more skills with each fight. King Vegeta would try to beat Bardock but he would lose

@thelocust619:

1. Gonna need proof that there were only hundreds of Saiyans, with only 10 elites.

While I have no good source about only hundreds of them, but neither you have any proof that they were thousands.

Toriyama in an interview told about classes:

Low class (avg warrior / weak - almost all saiyans were low class)

Mid class ( elite warrior / stronger - 10 mid class saiyans living before planet destruction according to toriyama)

High class (super elite / very strong - only two, kid vegeta & king vegeta)

He also said that they are classified according to power level, & can be promoted if become strong enough. So, this means that Vegeta > kid vegeta > mid class/elites > most other saiyans

They overpopulated their own planet before being conquered and spread throughout the galaxy by Freeza. He specifically had them all gather back on Vegeta in order to eradicate them.

See above.

In comparison, Namekians were modest, lightly spotting a single planet with incredible distances between villages. No average namekians were 10k in the anime, don't pretend you can read whatever alien language Freeza can read (it looks about as much like english as it does geometry...it's not a known language).

OK, forget about 10k, but 3 powers of 3k were found (they were suppressed to 1k before that).

Another main point is, vegeta & nappa weren't surprised, but had easy time believing, & were convinced that a namekian can easily kill raditz. So, avg namekian > avg saiyan

Nail will roflstomp until they gang up on him. As soon as he clears out a general area, he gets carpet blasted by hundreds at once, game set match. And now, according to u, only 14% of Namekians are proficient fighters, whereas 100% of the more numerous saiyans are. Pretty beat odds for Namek.

So, you have 150 saiyans (assuming until we get to conclusion) vs 110 namekians

12 top saiyans will fight nail (mid class & high class), while 138 low class/ raditz level will fight 14 warriors capable of taking more than 2 saiyans at once, plus 88 (excluded the elders) dragon clan type, who have many weird abilities that can help in battle (some dragon clan members can also be strong like original piccolo was), some of them can heal warriors, & if nail gets healed in his fight, you know that he'll win easily. Plus, elders can unlock potentials of some warriors.

2. Nope, nothing inconsistent. Piccolo blew up the moon at under 2000, King Vegeta is closer to 10k. He can bust a planet, and according to all referencable official material (anime+manga), he can. So, from a standpoint of both the anime and manga...he has done it on screen and you can't even dispute it.

Saiyans can't breath in space, according to manga or anime. It doesn't matter if he can destroy planet, he won't survive explosion.

3. Stomping a small group is not stomping a loaded planet. If Nail could do it so easilly, Freeza would have just sent Zarbon to eradicate the Saiyans. But he didnt, because the whole point of blowing up Vegeta was because they were starting to rise up and, working together, could have been, in Freeza's own admittance, a threat.

lol, zarbon won't even be able to put a good fight against a srs nail even with dodoria & cui's help.

They were not a threat for frieza, but he feared the legend of super saiyan, plus hundreds of ozarus could be a problem for someone strong as even 1st form frieza, but it doesn't mean he can't take them. He was worried because they were becoming more powerful with time, & didn't want to take risk of a super saiyan appearing.

A low threat, but still...he sure didn't feel the same about the namekians lol. Saying Nail can stomp a planet of saiyans shows a huge lack of understanding of both the series and just basic reasoning.

Never did I say that he can solo ALL saiyans at once, but that he can crush all low-class saiyans easily as they will be nonfactor for him.

Or, he can fight all the strong (12) saiyans at once while others deal with low class weaklings.

He has no answer for being showered to death with hundreds of energy blasts over a large area, and 14% of Namekians arn't enough to save him.

hundred of blasts by raditz levelers to nail? it will be like pistol bullets to WW hulk, epic no sell.

I've already given reasons above.

TOOLS: Also, if namekians get dragonballs, saiyans get artificial moons. Let's not make this stomp worse than it is.

DBs >> moons. They have 3 wishes.

They can wish for tails to go away.

They can wish nail back if he is somehow killed by a big teamup (like half of low class saiyans & all stronger ones).

They can wish for their scouters breaking.

SKILL: And foremost, the biggest factor besides population and the number of actual fighters is skill. Saiyans have combat tactics and skills that allowed them to survive with each other and dominate countless other worlds, whereas Namekians...farm. As we know, skill has bridged the gap between stronger fighters before, even by multitudes. Goku is a prime example, so is Vegeta.

Saiyans have what skill? Go to planets close to full moon, transform & go on rampage? Or unable to control their ki, or sense opponent?

only thing is saiyans have more willingness to fight than namekians (but this won't matter here as planet on the line)

ZENKAI AND HEALING: And finally we can address the zenkai boosts: the Saiyans obviously just havnt been getting them. In order to receive a full zenkai boost, you need to be beat half to death but that rarely happens because they work in squads, defending each other.

OK

Just two ass beatings (including 1 by Dodoria) put Bardock up enough to plow through his entire race and 3 (Freeza) put him in range of becoming an SSJ.

bardock special isn't canon to manga or anime. So, while first two make sense, the third one doesn't. It makes no sense for someone to go back in 1000 yrs of time by a fire blast. That'd be like broly going to past when pushed in sun in 2nd coming (& killing frieza to save his race, lol).

That's insane. The only explaination as to why average saiyans havnt recieved such massive boosts constantly is simple: they don't lose often, at least to the point of near death)

True.

And being that a fight between entire planets would take days at minimum, there is plenty of time for many to receive actual zenkai boosts (and tbf, the namekians can heal their wounded which would be great if more of them could actually do anything)

How will saiyans heal? You're saying that namekians will heal them while they want to kill them? lol what

CLOSING: The only way Namek stomps is if they out-populate the saiyans to bridge the skill/number gap (given there are so fewer legit warriors) or if they have non-cannon dbm feats. The main fact is, there's more saiyans in one single bar on Vegeta than there are in an entire village on Namek lol

See the nappa fight. Numbers don't mean much when opponents are lot more powerful. See the frieza fight, almost every fight in DBZ says 1 strong fighter > 5-7 weaker fighters.

WHY NAMEKIANS WIN:

1. Nail can take all strong guys at once and win in a tough fight, while others can take 2-3 saiyans of remaining bunch at once each. Some dragon clan fighters can also be strong like original piccolo was.
2. Fusion can be a huge advantage. So, if nail gets even one warrior to fuse with, he'll be more than 4x stronger at least, & capable of soloing all saiyans at once.
3. Dragon balls >>> moon balls. nuff said. So great apes can be countered w/ porunga's help.
4. Regeneration. So, if a namek is fighting 3 saiyans, & they somehow combining their strongest attacks, break a limb, it can be regenerated. However, it also needs energy, but it makes survival ability of namekians > saiyans.
5. Healing - lots of namekians have good abilities, like healing. So, they can heal their warriors like nail to regain the strength, giving a massive advantage.

A: Lol no, it's not 150 vs 110, or even close. There is no number, so we can only use what we know. What we know is that Namek has an ABNORMALLY small population, and we have no reason to suspect Vegeta to be as abnormal as them. We in fact have reason to suspect the saiyans had a higher-than-anticipated population, because we know they populated/ruined their own planet to the point of needing to dominate others. If we've ever been to a biology class in our life we'd know that when a dominant species is introduced to a new area, they tend to explode in population. They became so good at this that when Freeza came around he put them to work doing it for him, although he'd take the planet's afterwards. But even disregarding their spread through space, just the density of the population of their own planet was shown on screen to be magnitudes higher than Namek. We literally saw Namek's entire population when warped to Earth. We've all seen it. It's pathetic. I've been to parties with more heads than that. Their villages more comparable in size to the precursor race to the saiyans, which is like comparing cave men to us. 150 saiyans is laughable when arguements can be made for millions.

On a side note, can I see Toriyama stating there's 10 elite saiyans in the entire race?

B. Average Namekian warrior>weak saiyan. Saiyans who can actually fight>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Namekians who can actually fight.

C. Freeza gave both explainations, but the immediate threat was the rebellion, not the super saiyan.

D. Lol I'd love to watch them try making that wish while it rains Ozaru beams from every Saiyan on Vegeta.

E. I will not entertain an arguement that a bunch of farmers have accumulated more battle strategies than an entire warrior species that knows literally nothing but battle.

F. DBZ doesn't need to make sense, it just needs to be written by A.T.. A. T. wrote Bardock going into the past. Lol. It doesnt matter here, though, but he did it. Its even a manga.

G. No, the Namekians won't heal the saiyans, they heal their own. Injured saiyans would have to do it the long way, meaning that later waves would likely contain the stronger saiyans, i.e. the ones that were wounded, recovered, and boosted. This is, of course, from the perspective that the Namekians had a full planet, not just the small, sad group we saw on Earth. As it is the Namekians don't even have the manpower to last that long.

H. That's great...and just one skilled fighter can completely occupy an opponent vastly stronger than him, see nearly every fight in the series. That's a pretty beat situation when your entire population can barely even fill a parking lot.

WHY NAMEKIANS LOSE:

1. Nail is their only trump card, and once he gets swarmed they have literally nothing.

2. Nail needs to survive to fuse, and he wouldn't resort to that unless it were already too late for him. Fusing with Piccolo was a matter of circumstance.

3. Planning, summoning, and wishing all take time, while just one moon and the entire saiyan race can just erase them all at once in one barrage of blasts. Lol there's so few Namekians that just one could do it if they bunched up.

4. Good, the namekians are gonna need that regenerative survivability just to avoid being completely shut out by the raw number difference.

5. Warrior go into battle, healers stay back. Warriors get injured in battle, healers have to wait until after the battle to retrieve the warriors in order to heal them. They will not survive entering a slaughter. Unable to save the injured warriors, the healers watch the saiyans finish them off and they can no longer be healed. The healers cannot win a battle alone, so they die and are likely eaten. Saiyans, meanwhile, have the raw numbers to pull their injured back and keep pressing forward simultaniously. Healing is useless in this situation.

6. There's like 100 Namekians on the entire planet. Wtf. Is. That.

@thelocust619: How about we solve this issue in a cav?

@apex_pretador: that would be interesting, but you have me at a disadvantage: I don't have a computer :/ posting scans or debating anything beyond what is common knowledge is a bit beyond my current capacity right now, at least to a degree I'd consider satisfactory. I don't think the lack of pictures and the copy/pastes of links would be very fun for anyone...

Plus...isn't this thread here just for this kind of thing, just on a public scale? Lol