Nagato vs Blackbeard

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Nagato

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  • No knowledge
  • No preparation
  • Energy equalised
  • Nagato is mobile
  • No restrictions
  • Both at full power
  • Win by any means
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Teach oneshots.

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I would have to give it to teach. I don't believe nagato has the durability to take something like an earthquake punch.

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Nagato. More versatile

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shira tensei.. teach get hurt by a sigle punch, shinra tensei enough to broke all of his bone, or destoy teach earthquake

kuchiyose can help nagato, especially kuchiyose cameleon, or bird

bansho tennin can pull teach, and if nagato touch teach he can kill him with ningendo

Chibaku tensei = gg teach

nagato for the win

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Nagato is too versatile. Probably a lot smarter than him too.

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Blackbeard takes this. Nagato isnt surviving a quake from blackbeard.

Also @Syclone903 nagato isnt smater than teach. Teach engneered all the event leading up to yhe marineford war and basically manipulated all of the world powers in the one piece verse to gain emperor status.

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@kroczilla: Survive? Pretty sure that's Edo-Nagato.

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@syclone903: Nagato is alive and mobile. Edo characters are too hax without sealing powers.

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@syclone903: edo nagato would be too OP and impossible to deal with.

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#13  Edited By ALMIGHTY

Close but teach

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Going with TEACH for stated reasons.

Nagato will be finished after a single quake punch. TEACH has his darkness swallow whatever comes his way.

TEACH controls gravity too and is literally a walking gravitational force thanks to his fruit. With energy equalized in this scenario, which I'm sure was done to benefit nagato I.e. So he can absorb teach's attacks which don't have chakra; it's double edge sword against nagato. Once he gets pulled in by TEACH and grabbed he'll lose access to his powers as teach's ability allows him to cancel powers. Then he'll just be plain susceptible to a punch.

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#15  Edited By The_Stern_ritter

Lol Nagato stomps. He either wins with a BT+Soul rip gg or Chibaku Tensei gg.

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@kroczilla: I guess, what does he mean by energy equalised though. That Nagato can absorb his quakes, or they have the same amount of energy?

And can someone please give me some Teach feats? I haven't read One Piece in over a year and can't find a respect thread of him anywhere on the net. Scans would be appreciated as well.

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#17  Edited By Chair-Sama

@kroczilla: I guess, what does he mean by energy equalised though. That Nagato can absorb his quakes, or they have the same amount of energy?

And can someone please give me some Teach feats? I haven't read One Piece in over a year and can't find a respect thread of him anywhere on the net. Scans would be appreciated as well.

basically like chakra = haki and haki = chakra. essentially anything that requires energy : IE a jutsu or a move, the energy itself is basically the same type as somebody else.

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Blackbeard one-shots.

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@chair-sama: I see, so what stops him from simply absorbing the energy out of this guys 'quake punch'?

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@chair-sama: I see, so what stops him from simply absorbing the energy out of this guys 'quake punch'?

he could potentially, but like stated it works both ways. blackbeard has the ability to where if he can touch nagato he can negate all of nagato's powers and then just punch him from point blank range.

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#21  Edited By Full123

@syclone903: Since Devil Fruits are not Haki, moot point, and also, when was Nagato able to suck energy? Nevermind though, Blackbeard has the same power, and alongside the Quake Quake fruit, he also has the Darkness Fruit, which allows him to steal powers and make his body into a black hole that can suck in a town in seconds. Since energy is equalised, if Blackbeard gets any degree of close to Nagato, bye bye, all his jutsus are gone.

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#23  Edited By Chair-Sama

@full123 said:

@syclone903: Since Devil Fruits are not Haki, moot point,

i know, i was just clarifying, devil fruit still requires him to use energy to use his attacks.

and also, when was Nagato able to suck energy?

What? Preta path absorbs all chakra. since their energy itself is equalized, he should be able to.

And his other path sucks out your soul.

Nevermind though, Blackbeard has the same power, and alongside the Quake Quake fruit, he also has the Darkness Fruit, which allows him to steal powers and make his body into a black hole that can suck in a town in seconds.

Mehh, nagato could arguably counter that with his own attack that cleared a entire city out in seconds.

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he also used it to throw 3 massive toads that were each dwarfing most buildings/rivaled a tailed beast in size.

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he casually launched 3 of these sized toads miles into the distance. one into a mountain, one into a lake, and one into the distance.

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Since energy is equalised, if Blackbeard gets any degree of close to Nagato, bye bye, all his jutsus are gone.

nobody is doubting that.

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@chair-sama: Okay, but I wasn't talking to you though.

And I also seem to remember that Shinra Tensei didn't actually kill anybody. It was basically a big, destructive, flashy wave of nothing, much like One Piece's very own Kuma's Ursus Shock (the one he used in Thriller Bark, the Marineford one did some damage, at least.)

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#25  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

@syclone903 said:

@chair-sama: I see, so what stops him from simply absorbing the energy out of this guys 'quake punch'?

Because a shockwave isn't a form of energy that the Preta Path can absorb. It's kinetic energy spread outward.

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#26  Edited By Syclone903

@juiceboks: Yeah but, isn't it energy before he releases it? If so, that's pretty much how the Rasenshuriken or tailed beast ball works, and he can absorb those.

A punch suggests that he gets right in front of him before he releases it. What stops him from absorbing it before it's released?

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@full123 said:

@chair-sama: Okay, but I wasn't talking to you though.

And I also seem to remember that Shinra Tensei didn't actually kill anybody. It was basically a big, destructive, flashy wave of nothing, much like One Piece's very own Kuma's Ursus Shock (the one he used in Thriller Bark, the Marineford one did some damage, at least.)

It broke the bones of the three toads and took out Hinata. Not a kill, but it could temporary incapacitate someone.

BTW I'm not taking any sides, as the OP. :)

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@juiceboks: Yeah but, isn't it energy before he releases it? If so, that's pretty much how the Rasenshuriken or tailed beast ball works, and he can absorb those.

A punch suggests that he gets right in front of him before he releases it. What stops him from absorbing it before it's released?

No, the power allows the user to create vibrations with the palm of their hands. There's no tangible energy involved.

Again, it's just him vibrating either the victim or the air around him.

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#29  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@juiceboks:

Problem being, nagato can simply blast him away if he tried to get close for the punch, or spam summons from range, specially the dog which teach has no way to put down.

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#31 juiceboks  Moderator

@princearagorn1: I don't think anything but his strongest push can force Teach away far enough to where he won't be affected by the shockwaves of his punch. Also the Darkness fruit can just bring Nagato closer to him.

Considering Teach absorbed all the rubble and buildings in a town against Ace, I don't think absorbing the dog summon should be outside of his capabilities.

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Teach might have a problem with Nagato's gravity powers. And im not sure if Nagato can tank many Quake punches. But if it comes down to it Nagato is pretty diverse with his Rinnegan and could soul steal Teach

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#33  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@full123: except even the walls and fodder right near kuma survived ursus shock, while a casual shinra tensei shattered every bone in gamabunta's body, and a stronger one completely wiped entire konoha clean.

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@juiceboks:

Why not? One of those threw gamabunta miles away from the city and broke every bone in his body, others cancelled out FRS like nothing. It is more than capable of wrecking teach. He covered inanimate objects with darkness, and even those were not turned to dust or anything the dog couldn't heal from. I don't recall it ever trapping anyone for good.

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#35 juiceboks  Moderator

@princearagorn1:

Teach is much more durable than Gamabunta, having took a point blank Quake and a hit from Sengoku. And Nagato can only use Almighty Push at that level once before he incurs a noticeable cooldown.

He trapped marines in it as well.

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#36  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@juiceboks:

Bunta took hits from shukaku as well, is strong enough to restrain kyubi momentarily, and a lot heavier. Even saying teach can take a few shinra tensei, it will send him flying without question, leaving nagato alone to do range things, and let shinra tensei recharge (matter of seconds - unless he uses the amped version which he doesn't need) before he closes the gap again.

You are right on it sucking in the marines, I was thinking of the time he uses it on banaro island - ordinary people feel being sucked in and outrun it. The hound, significantly stronger and with super speed, should have no problem replicating that.

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#37  Edited By omnipoTENTEN8

One Piece >>> Naruto in terms of power

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if this is full power meaning Nagato in full health ? because teach will get an ass whopping, nagato with full health manage to use every jutsu of each path at one go, and his shinra tensei in full health don't need to cooled down.

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#39  Edited By loumast

@chair-sama said:

@syclone903 said:

@kroczilla: I guess, what does he mean by energy equalised though. That Nagato can absorb his quakes, or they have the same amount of energy?

And can someone please give me some Teach feats? I haven't read One Piece in over a year and can't find a respect thread of him anywhere on the net. Scans would be appreciated as well.

basically like chakra = haki and haki = chakra. essentially anything that requires energy : IE a jutsu or a move, the energy itself is basically the same type as somebody else.

Don't think haki is a kind of energy, it's more a technique. But yeah... this is really tricky. Blackbeard is almost definitely better statwise save maybe speed... but Nagato outhaxes him pretty well. Especially in the genjutsu area. In the end I do think haki will save Blackbeard from that, so Blackbeard.

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Nagato wins. This is close.

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#41  Edited By jrnic1

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Nagato wins. This is close.

Haha I know it's close, that's why I made it. :D

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Gotta go with nagato

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#44  Edited By SkySanji

Blackbeard

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Teach ain’t beating Pain, let alone Nagato.

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Blackbeard one shots...

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Nagato solos OP

could go either way

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Nagato stomps

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Nagato mid diffs likes of Old Whitebeard. What the fuck is Blackbeard gonna do?

And İ LOL at the guy that says OP>Naruto. Kaguya,Madara,Naruto,Sasuke,Obito,Toneri,Hashirama,Nagato and Kurama solo the verse EVEN WİTH Whitebeard at his prime and Gol D Roger around. Some of them can take all of the verse at the same time and laught it up before blowing up the Planet.

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@omnipotenten8: Kaguya,Madara,Naruto,Sasuke,Obito,Toneri,Hashirama,Nagato and Kurama beg to differ.