Nagato and Itachi vs Obito and Kabuto

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  • Itachi and Nagato are alive and healthy
  • Obito is MS (Orange Mask)
  • Kabuto is war arc and he can't use Edo tensei

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Itachi and Nagato should win via Totsuka sealing and Rinnegan hax

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#5  Edited By alextheboss

Kabuto was able to land multiple lethal blows on Itachi in their fight. Granted, Itachi wasn't trying to kill Kabuto and had to protect Sasuke a few times, but there is a really good chance Kabuto can win 1v1 against him. Obito is at least around Nagato and Itachi as well. I'm honestly leaning Obito and Kabuto, but if Nagato can somehow absorb white extreme attack, he might be able to shinra tensei Kabuto, or Itachi may be able to totska blade him. Obito would likely lose a 2v1.

Extremely close fight though imo.

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Obito solos like he would have soloed all the reanimated Akatsuki.

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#8  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator

Team 1. Itachi puts Kabuto under Izanami again then the 2 gang up on Obito. Honestly white mask/Rinnegan Obito would've made this more interesting.

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#9 takenstew22  Moderator

Obito solos like he would have soloed all the reanimated Akatsuki.

And what exactly makes you think that?

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#10  Edited By SixPathsOfCapra

Close. Team 1. Lol at ms obito soloing. He is probably the weakest individual here

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@takenstew22:

Honestly white mask/Rinnegan Obito would've made this more interesting.

If I made it Rinnegan Obito it would've been unfair. He has feats against KCM2 Naruto. He can do everything Nagato can etc. MS Obito is more balanced and somewhat fair.

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With Obito, both Nagato and Itachi cannot personally touch Kabuto. They are then susceptible to the sound Genjutsu of Kabuto.

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@daddyprometheus said:

Obito solos like he would have soloed all the reanimated Akatsuki.

And what exactly makes you think that?

He was unfazed by Kabuto summoning them to fight, indicating that he could take them without much effort, he only backed down once Madara was summoned.

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Nagato and Itachi

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Obito solos

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Team 2 no diffs. Kamui gg, sound genjutsu gg.

Itachi getting negged by genjutsu. Oh, the irony.

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@lovetiemainiac:

Nagato can solo mid diff

How do you think Nagato deals with sound Genjutsu considering it's shown to work on Rinnegan?

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#19 takenstew22  Moderator
@takenstew22 said:
@daddyprometheus said:

Obito solos like he would have soloed all the reanimated Akatsuki.

And what exactly makes you think that?

He was unfazed by Kabuto summoning them to fight, indicating that he could take them without much effort, he only backed down once Madara was summoned.

...What? How does that indicate he could solo them? Lol.

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@consciousdirect:

I think it's pretty implied that itachi is superior to MS obito

1) Obito saw the entire Edo akatsuki with Itachi present and was unphased.

2) Obito gives orders to a guy stronger than Itachi (Pain>Jiarya>-Itachi , Pain is jus stated to be stronger)

3) Itachi's "attempt" at killing Obito using his MS ability failed.

4) Obito statement is in refrence to a deal he made with Itachi. It isn't about power

5) With prep Itachi could beat Obito (But he doesn't have prep here...)

Don't see how on earth Itachi is implied superior to Obito (LOL)

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#22  Edited By GodlyShinigami

Team 2 win. Song Genjutsu works against the Rinnegan as shown with Jiarya. Obito beats Itachi after a good fight

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#23 takenstew22  Moderator

I forgot about the song genjutsu. When did Kabuto have that?

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#24  Edited By GodlyShinigami
@takenstew22 said:

I forgot about the song genjutsu. When did Kabuto have that?

He uses it against Itachi and Sasuke and they can't break out of it individually. Since the Rinnegan can't protect against sound genjutsu. Nagato's gonna be paralyzed and be left open for Obito to suck him into kamui.

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#25 takenstew22  Moderator

@takenstew22 said:

I forgot about the song genjutsu. When did Kabuto have that?

He uses it against Itachi and Sasuke and they can't break out of it individually. Since the Rinnegan can't protect against sound genjutsu. Nagato's gonna be paralyzed and be left open for Obito to suck him into kamui.

That's a fine strategy I can see working. I don't think either has a counter for getting BFR'd into kamui dimension.

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@takenstew22: because he was going to? It's not that complex.

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#29 takenstew22  Moderator

@takenstew22: because he was going to? It's not that complex.

You're not making it complex, just incredibly confusing. You're basing him soloing them all off of his reactions to Kabuto's resurrections?

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#30  Edited By asgardianweapon

@lovetiemainiac: i don't believe you truly said Obito is "kakashi level" when the former literaly fought the latter plus Kcm plus guy and was preassuring them all.

Edit: didn't saw that it was MS Obito but honestly it doesn't matter, he still could react to raikage and there is nothing to suggest he is at "kakashi tier"

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People are delusional if they think either side is stomping imo

However I might side with Nagato and Itachi in a very close fight.... Everyone prolly dies at the end even if there is a winner due to the sheer amount of damage done to one another

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#33  Edited By Wabubub

Obito has to 1v2 here and he loses in a tough fight. Kabuto is dead weight that Nagato can eliminate at a glance.

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@lovetiemainiac: "keeping up" bc obito wanted to kinda throw the match, also, chakra arms are not slow and Naruto was trying his bestto tag him and he was many times almost defeated and had to rely on either guy or kakashi.

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#35  Edited By DaddyPrometheus

@takenstew22: i'm basing it on the fact that he was about to fight Kabuto and the summonings were seemingly not a threat to him, he was willing to still refuse Kabuto's offer in spite of the threat and seemed inclined to get rid of Kabuto, that's the context in which the reaction is, they were about to throw hands since Kabuto is trying to force Tobi into negotiating via force (the edos), thus it is immediately relevant how he reacted to Kabuto's reinforcements, given he intended to reject Kabuto's "offer", he would have to fight the edos as well.

I don't see what's confusing about it, it's just what the scene shows.

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Nagato should be able to absorb White Rage attack as it is a senjutsu based technique and not purely natural energy (Correct me if im wrong). Depending on the location, one main reason why Kabuto was efficient on dealing with Itachi was because they were on his turf. That cave gave Kabuto an advantage when he used Inorganic animation. Would still be a problem but if this was in an outer location then I believe either Itachi or Nagato would be able to avoid that confrontation. Now here is were it gets tricky,... Obito. Obito would likely observe how Kabuto is dealing with either Nagato or Itachi and remain intangible or just avoid until he gets an idea on how to turn the tables. As Stew said, they have no counter from getting BFR'ed into KD. Obito can teleport either of them into it and then strategically teleport either of them right back in during a dangerous situation were the other duo are likely taking place in. He can teleport them right back into a cross fire were as Kabuto can use something deadly as Inorganic animation and either Itachi or Nagato use one of their techniques like Amaterasu or Shinra Tensei. This is honestly a really good battle and tough for both sides. Im going to side with Kabuto and Obito here with extreme diff.

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@lovetiemainiac: is there any ANY instance of chakra arms being slow? I mean you are the one who made the claims you should be the one to back it up

But chakra arm could tag Muu, who is pretty fast and could save Narusaku before they were hit by unbalances Obito

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#39  Edited By ITACHI_IS_GAWD
@daddyprometheus said:

Obito solos like he would have soloed all the reanimated Akatsuki.

Yeah right because Obito was totally going to be able to solo an Akatuski team built with Itachi, Nagato, Deidara, Sasori, and Kakuzu who all would have had edo regen? Lol.

OT: Team 1. Healthy Nagato and Itachi means they can spam their more powerful techniques out in which they can easily take Kabuto out who is the weak link. They then proceed to take out Obito.

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Kabuto and Obito

Kabuto in Sage Mode>Itachi

Obito> Nagato

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oh they alive and not edo? team 2 takes it mid to high diff theres really nothing they can do against whack a mole jutsu

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#42 takenstew22  Moderator

Kabuto in Sage Mode>Itachi

Hm? Itachi would've solo'd Kabuto if he had no qualms of killing him.

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@iimpy_alpha_god said:

Kabuto in Sage Mode>Itachi

Hm? Itachi would've solo'd Kabuto if he had no qualms of killing him.

Kabuto wasnt trying to kill him either. He had two options which both were to capture Sasuke or try to rewrite the seal so he can take control of Itachi and he decided to go with option 1. He knew Itachi was Edo so every time he take action to kill him, he knew he would come back. Itachi needed Sasuke to be there to set up the Amaterasu defense and when they both got caught under his Genjutsu. Kabuto with no qualms of killing him is definitely above Itachi so no, Itachi wouldn't have solo'd him.

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Team 2 but no way in hell is Obito soloing.

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Team 2 no diffs. Kamui gg, sound genjutsu gg.

Itachi getting negged by genjutsu. Oh, the irony.

Not disagreeing with you but what Genjutsu does Obito have that is superior to Itachi's?

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#47  Edited By the_wspanialy  Online

@the_wspanialy said:

Team 2 no diffs. Kamui gg, sound genjutsu gg.

Itachi getting negged by genjutsu. Oh, the irony.

Not disagreeing with you but what Genjutsu does Obito have that is superior to Itachi's?

I was referring to Kabuto's sound genjutsu, which has proven effective against Itachi.

Though if I'm being honest, Obito's genjutsuing Kurama seems superior to anything Itachi has pulled off (I don't count Shisui's MS).

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@lovetiemainiac:

Wait are you really equating 1-4 to KCM? Also i should review the context behind those instances. And your response to Muu instance is pure copium: Naruto had to use chakra arm twice, Muu is a sensor and pretty fast himself which should neutralise his surprise

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@daddyprometheus said:

Obito solos like he would have soloed all the reanimated Akatsuki.

Yeah right because Obito was totally going to be able to solo an Akatuski team built with Itachi, Nagato, Deidara, Sasori, and Kakuzu who all would have had edo regen? Lol.

Yes, that is exactly what he was going to do.