Myth Warriors: Achilles vs Siegfried

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Who is the greatest warrior of all time? Myth Achilles and Myth Siegfried meet to settle the argument once and for all. Battle takes place in an endless valley, no outside interference.

...by the way, if you haven't read Alex Alice's Siegfried, I recommend you do, it's pretty awesome.

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#2  Edited By Jayfournines

Come on people!

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#3  Edited By Xanni15

Achilles.

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#4  Edited By Jayfournines

@Xanni15 said:

Achilles.

howcome?

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@Xanni15 said:

Achilles.

I think Achilles would take this fight. This is very little (essentially nothing) that Siegfried could do to harm him, because I doubt he is going to know about the heel.

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#6  Edited By Jayfournines

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@Xanni15 said:

Achilles.

I think Achilles would take this fight. This is very little (essentially nothing) that Siegfried could do to harm him, because I doubt he is going to know about the heel.

yeah but Siegfried's got the same deal (weak point is some part of his back)...so it kinda events out I think

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@Jayfournines said:

@Xanni15 said:

Achilles.

howcome?

Achilles is an absolute monster as a fighter, he fought gods, obliterated every single person he fought, has only one weakness, is watched over by the gods, etc.

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#8  Edited By Moon_Bat_87

@Jayfournines said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@Xanni15 said:

Achilles.

I think Achilles would take this fight. This is very little (essentially nothing) that Siegfried could do to harm him, because I doubt he is going to know about the heel.

yeah but Siegfried's got the same deal (weak point is some part of his back)...so it kinda events out I think

True. But Its a larger and more open target. Over the course of a battle, it is much more likely that his back will be hit versus Achilles' heel being hit.

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#9  Edited By Jayfournines

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@Jayfournines said:

@Moon_Bat_87 said:

@Xanni15 said:

Achilles.

I think Achilles would take this fight. This is very little (essentially nothing) that Siegfried could do to harm him, because I doubt he is going to know about the heel.

yeah but Siegfried's got the same deal (weak point is some part of his back)...so it kinda events out I think

True. But Its a larger and more open target. Over the course of a battle, it is much more likely that his back will be hit versus Achilles' heel being hit.

hrm, you do have a point there

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#10  Edited By ChaosBlazer

Achilles. Even Deathstroke and his son think he's da best.

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#11  Edited By Wolfrazer
@ChaosBlazer:  Notice he said "The greatest warrior of all time." He didn't say of his time, but of ALL time. Complete win!
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#12  Edited By Xanni15

@Wolfrazer:

To be fair he said arguably.

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#13  Edited By Wolfrazer
@Xanni15:  Even so.
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#14  Edited By Joygirl

Beowulf wins.

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#15  Edited By GR2Blackout

Achilles wins.

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#16  Edited By niBBit

Achilles wins. It took divine intervention to stop him.

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#17  Edited By Jayfournines

@Joygirl said:

Beowulf wins.

I can't remember but did Beowulf have invulnerable skin?

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#18  Edited By Joygirl

Nope. He was just a badass who killed giant sea serpents while he had been in the ocean swimming for days. Also giants and dragons and monsters and stuff. He rips Achilles's foot off and shoves his sword into the stump of his leg.

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#19  Edited By Jayfournines

bump!

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#20  Edited By TrueMoonchilde

@Xanni15 said:

@Jayfournines said:

@Xanni15 said:

Achilles.

howcome?

Achilles is an absolute monster as a fighter, he fought gods, obliterated every single person he fought, has only one weakness, is watched over by the gods, etc.

Siegfried is pretty much the exact same character as Achilles, but from Norse/Teutonic mythology rather then Greek/Roman.

And Hector was a superior warrior to Achilles and only lost his duel with him due to being unaware of Achilles's super-power.

As for Siegfried vs Achilles, it would basically last forever, until eventually one of them got lucky and managed to hit the other in the exact spot that they were vulnerable. Due to the fact that Siegfried's weak spot is in an area that is more likely to get hit, it's more likely that Achilles finds Siegfried's week spot before Siegfried finds his.

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Nope. He was just a badass who killed giant sea serpents while he had been in the ocean swimming for days. Also giants and dragons and monsters and stuff. He rips Achilles's foot off and shoves his sword into the stump of his leg.

I agree. Beowulf has more badass feats then either of them, and without the clutch super-power the other two have.

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#21  Edited By PowerHerc

Achilles wins because his durability is much greater than that of Siegfried.

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#22  Edited By Xanni15

@Moonchilde said:

And Hector was a superior warrior to Achilles and only lost his duel with him due to being unaware of Achilles's super-power.

What makes you say that?

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#23  Edited By ShootingNova

So Siegfired has Fafnir's blood? Its more likely Achilles will hit Siegfried's weak spot before vice versa happens, but Siegfried is much wiser and has a very powerful blade, Balmung/Gram will certainly kill Achilles once it hits his weak spot.

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@ShootingNova said:

So Siegfired has Fafnir's blood? Its more likely Achilles will hit Siegfried's weak spot before vice versa happens, but Siegfried is much wiser and has a very powerful blade, Balmung/Gram will certainly kill Achilles once it hits his weak spot.

I don't remember if Siegfried wore armor as well...or was he runnin around butt naked?

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#25  Edited By Wolfrazer

One does not simply kill Achilles..

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#26  Edited By z3ro180

@Jayfournines: is seigfied the guy who killed a dragon and bathed it its blood and got invunablie skin exept for the bit of his back were a leaf fell on it?

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@Z3RO180 said:

@Jayfournines: is seigfied the guy who killed a dragon and bathed it its blood and got invunablie skin exept for the bit of his back were a leaf fell on it?

that would be him, yes.

@Wolfrazer: But they did kill him...and Siegfried as well. Both had the same schtick, both were bathed in some weird thing which made them invulnerable except for a certain part of their bodies, both were bad ass and angry...except Siegfried could talk to birds like Aquaman talks to the fished.

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#28  Edited By jeanroygrant

@GR2Blackout said:

Achilles wins.

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#29  Edited By ShootingNova

@Z3RO180: Yes.

@Jayfournines: No, not really, he didn't really use armour.

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#30  Edited By justleader

dont know much about siegfried but i think achillies wins since he's invincible, unless siegfried knows his weakness he isn't winning against him

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@justleader said:

dont know much about siegfried but i think achillies wins since he's invincible, unless siegfried knows his weakness he isn't winning against him

same deal, Siegfried has the same invlunerable skin and the same "you can only hit me in one spot" thing

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@Jayfournines said:

@justleader said:

dont know much about siegfried but i think achillies wins since he's invincible, unless siegfried knows his weakness he isn't winning against him

same deal, Siegfried has the same invlunerable skin and the same "you can only hit me in one spot" thing

then it's a stalemate........

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"Achilles's heel"
When Achilles was born, Thetis want to make him immortal. She dip him in the river Styx. However, due to she had to hold his legs to prevent him from being washed away by the river, his heel is not dipped in Styx and being vulnerable.


"Siegfried's leaf"
After Siegfried kill a dragon, he decide to bathe in its blood. This make him invulnerable. Unfortunately, when he is bathing a leaf fall on his back, covering this area from the blood of the dragon. Thus, this is the only weakness of Siegfried.

I am done. You decide.

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#34  Edited By WF_Mxyzptlk

Siegfried stomps based on feats. Achilles wasn't superhuman beyond his invulnerability. Siegfried, on the other hand had at least low-level superhuman strength, and a magical sword.