Rounds
- No prep for either
- Both have a week of prep. Snake can have Otacon to help him but no one else
Rules
- In chracter
- Win by any means
- Standard gear for round one
Location
- Begin visible
- Begin 50 feet apart
- Fight takes place here:
Who wins and why?
Mysterio vs Solid Snake
@diarrhearegatta said:
@the_hajduk: Mysterio takes a dump all over the real street level guy here.
inb4 Twin Snake feats
Mysterio is just a tricker. Snake has beaten plenty of illusions and sees through deception daily. He can see right through invisibility.
Psycho Mantis could simulate changing the TV channel. That's a feat of illusionism that Mysterio can't touch and this is just one trick from Psycho Mantis that Snake has to see through.
Snake sees through illusions.
@the_hajduk: Psycho Mantis is crap dude. His basic telepathy is all fancy and all that but Beck functions on a higher level, plus that was Mantis weakened due to controlling of the guards around Moses as well, so his focus wasn't even 100% in those instances.
To prove Snake can even tell fact from fiction, you will have to prove that-
A. Snake has better natural senses than Spider-Man, who got fooled into thinking he was being drowned in a pool. Spider-Man has a special sense that allows him to essentially figure out dangers around him but was fooled.
B. Snake has better natural senses than Doctor Strange, who is a extradimensional magician that can tell imbalances in the Earth easily. Beck fooled him as well.
C. Can fool Extremis Iron Man's sensors in his armour and in his head (he could feel technology around him and accessed technology all over the world multiple times and could scan areas even before then thanks to his suit
D. Has better natural senses than Daredevil, who had such sensitive senses that he could hear meteorites before they hit the upper atmosphere and can directly tell when people are lying to him via their heartbeat, yet was fooled by Mysterio's illusion of his dead girlfriend as well as mimic the sensation of Hell itself.
E. Has better natural senses than Wolverine, who was completely fooled by Mysterio's illusions, making him try to kill the Avengers despite his hyper enhanced senses being able to detect illusions or falsehoods usually. Beck's illusions sound, feel, and overall are processed as whatever he wants.
F. Can somehow be more capable of seeing through illusions than a legit telepath (Ms Sinister, a actual accomplished telepathy user that has mentally fought with the likes of Psylocke and Jean Grey in the past in her male form) into thinking he was someone else. Beck's illusions fool even telepaths into thinking what he wants them to think.
So basically Nick, you gotta prove Snake is better than everyone else here, and, well, you can't. You and I know Snake doesn't have better senses or tracking than the likes of Wolverine, which means he's gonna get fooled.
Oh, and before you make a tech based argument, Beck has EMP's set up to deal with that-
It managed to not only disable Spider-Man's tech (which is far superior to any army based technology that is around) and disabled Octopus technology, and, well, he's a genius of robotics. Not much to say there.
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@diarrhearegatta said:
@the_hajduk: Psycho Mantis is crap dude. His basic telepathy is all fancy and all that but Beck functions on a higher level, plus that was Mantis weakened due to controlling of the guards around Moses as well, so his focus wasn't even 100% in those instances.
To prove Snake can even tell fact from fiction, you will have to prove that-
A. Snake has better natural senses than Spider-Man, who got fooled into thinking he was being drowned in a pool. Spider-Man has a special sense that allows him to essentially figure out dangers around him but was fooled.
B. Snake has better natural senses than Doctor Strange, who is a extradimensional magician that can tell imbalances in the Earth easily. Beck fooled him as well.
C. Can fool Extremis Iron Man's sensors in his armour and in his head (he could feel technology around him and accessed technology all over the world multiple times and could scan areas even before then thanks to his suit
D. Has better natural senses than Daredevil, who had such sensitive senses that he could hear meteorites before they hit the upper atmosphere and can directly tell when people are lying to him via their heartbeat, yet was fooled by Mysterio's illusion of his dead girlfriend as well as mimic the sensation of Hell itself.
E. Has better natural senses than Wolverine, who was completely fooled by Mysterio's illusions, making him try to kill the Avengers despite his hyper enhanced senses being able to detect illusions or falsehoods usually. Beck's illusions sound, feel, and overall are processed as whatever he wants.
F. Can somehow be more capable of seeing through illusions than a legit telepath (Ms Sinister, a actual accomplished telepathy user that has mentally fought with the likes of Psylocke and Jean Grey in the past in her male form) into thinking he was someone else. Beck's illusions fool even telepaths into thinking what he wants them to think.
So basically Nick, you gotta prove Snake is better than everyone else here, and, well, you can't. You and I know Snake doesn't have better senses or tracking than the likes of Wolverine, which means he's gonna get fooled.
Oh, and before you make a tech based argument, Beck has EMP's set up to deal with that-
It managed to not only disable Spider-Man's tech (which is far superior to any army based technology that is around) and disabled Octopus technology, and, well, he's a genius of robotics. Not much to say there.
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