My Marvel Cosmics can beat yours at DC...
Create a 1O Man DCU team representing there entire cosmos...Assume villan/hero's on team work together... Only person can't pick is god in either U...
Can your DC team overcome???
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:Yeah. What?"Create a 1O Man DCU team representing there entire cosmos...Assume villan/hero's on team work together... Only person can't pick is god in either U... Can your DC team overcome??? "and what is you're Marvel team ? "
" @Fortanono said:What Do You Mean?" @JediXMan: We Don't Even Know WHO The Team Is. "Nobody short of the One Above All can bring that team down. "
" So no Presence? Got it. CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre MandrakkNekron Death of the Endless HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "I approve of this team.
" @JediXMan said:His rules specify no "God of of either U," which means no Presence or One Above All (I don't have either). They're the only ones with a chance of winning and it'd probably be a stalemate." @Fortanono said:What Do You Mean? "" @JediXMan: We Don't Even Know WHO The Team Is. "Nobody short of the One Above All can bring that team down. "
" @JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM? "He's saying it doesn't matter because no Marvel Cosmics team can trump his, they can only stalemate it.
" @Decoy Elite said:Seems like a good enough plan. 50 bucks says the OP pulls out PR Beyonder." @Fortanono said:Exactly. "" @JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM? "He's saying it doesn't matter because no Marvel Cosmics team can trump his, they can only stalemate it. "
" @JediXMan said:And the Beyonder is either just under the One Above All or equal to him - it ends in a stalemate or a loss for Marvel's team." @Decoy Elite said:Seems like a good enough plan. 50 bucks says the OP pulls out PR Beyonder. "" @Fortanono said:Exactly. "" @JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM? "He's saying it doesn't matter because no Marvel Cosmics team can trump his, they can only stalemate it. "
@JediXMan said:
"So no Presence? Got it. CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre MandrakkNekron Death of the Endless HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "
Im pretty much going to use this except my Nekron is BN Nekron
"So no Presence? Got it. CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre MandrakkNekron Death of the Endless HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "
This team can be taken out. If he uses Protege, LT, Slorioth, Chthon, Shuma Gorath, Cyttorak, Multi-Eternity, Multi-Infinity, Multi-Death, Multi-Oblivion, The Infinities, Nemesis (full power), Abraxas, Phoenix Force, Sise-Neg ... The DC team goes down easily.
I would personally add to DC team, Ultimator, World's funiest Mxy, Bane-Mite, Bat-Mite...
Basilcy what we need is OP to establish the number of the characters included in match
"@JediXMan said:"So no Presence? Got it. CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre MandrakkNekron Death of the Endless HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "This team can be taken out. If he uses Protege, LT, Slorioth, Chthon, Shuma Gorath, Cyttorak, Multi-Eternity, Multi-Infinity, Multi-Death, Multi-Oblivion, The Infinities, Nemesis (full power), Abraxas, Phoenix Force, Sise-Neg ... The DC team goes down easily. I would personally add to DC team, Ultimator, World's funiest Mxy, Bane-Mite, Bat-Mite... Basilcy what we need is OP to establish the number of the characters included in match "
He said 10. So no multi charecters since there infinite
" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "Ouch.
" @Silver2467 said:You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work." @JediXMan said:What? "" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "Ouch. "
" @JediXMan said:Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing." @Silver2467 said:You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work. "" @JediXMan said:What? "" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "Ouch. "
" @Silver2467 said:Oh, no, I never meant it like that. Sorry if it came across that way." @JediXMan said:Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "" @Silver2467 said:You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work. "" @JediXMan said:What? "" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "Ouch. "
" @JediXMan said:I believe it was stated that they do equal him." @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "No they equal his creation aspect "
@Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:No problem. I just misread it." @Silver2467 said:Oh, no, I never meant it like that. Sorry if it came across that way. "" @JediXMan said:Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "" @Silver2467 said:You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work. "" @JediXMan said:What? "" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "Ouch. "
" @daak1212 said:" @JediXMan said:I believe it was stated that they do equal him." @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "No they equal his creation aspect "
@Silver2467 said:" @JediXMan said:No problem. I just misread it. "" @Silver2467 said:Oh, no, I never meant it like that. Sorry if it came across that way. "" @JediXMan said:Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "" @Silver2467 said:You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work. "" @JediXMan said:What? "" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "Ouch. "
It was long and thought out but I think this was debated in the super thread where all the abstracts and superpowers of Marvel and Dc fought. There where few exceptions. Im no sure what its called but I think it was PhoenixoftheBlackThrone or Morpheus_ who clarified it as that they were equal to his creation aspect. I have a hard time understanding on how 2 nigh omnipotents equal an omnipotent. I guess that was the writters call not sanities
@JediXMan said:
They do not equal the Presence. Or if they do equal the Presence then it doesn't equal TOAA. Lucifer+Michael = Universe/Creation..... That's about as close to God as 1 is to infinity. Understand this, the concept of God encompasses ALL that is AND ISN'T. It's a very complex concept to grasp, it takes a very abstract mind to comprehend. The best example I can give of this is the imaginary unit i and all of the Complex number set. If you can make sense of that you'll be closer to understanding." @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "
" @Silver2467 said:" @JediXMan said:Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "" @Silver2467 said:You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work. "" @JediXMan said:What? "" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "Ouch. "
First of all Michael + Lucifer =/= to Presence in power. That's one of the big misconcepts here on Vine,and makes me think that you have a moderate knowledge on characters (Presence, Michale and Lucifer), since such thing was never stated in comics.
Second thing Presence =/= equal to TOAA. Mainly because Presence is a character, and TOAA is representation of writers, and by thus ToAA> Presence. It was also stated by Presence that there are more powerrfull forces behind him (clearly indicating on writers), and by thus Presence has a limited onmipotence. Another thing that indicates that Presence isn't =/= TOAA is the fact that he has his power fluctuating. In his most powerfull version he is a representation of DC Multiverse, and later on in stories he was portrayed simply as a God that inherited large portin of the Godwave and by thus becomed more powerfull than other Gods. So basicly later stories show him as the creation of Godwave, and all Gods in DC are created from the first wave of the Godwave.
On the other hand TOAA supreme master, representation of marvel Omniverse, a totality that is >>> than multiverse. And even DC Multiverse is porttrayed as a part of Marvel Omniverse by marvel comp.
"@JediXMan said:TOAA has been portrayed as a charecter also" @Silver2467 said:" @JediXMan said:Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "" @Silver2467 said:You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work. "" @JediXMan said:What? "" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "Ouch. "
First of all Michael + Lucifer =/= to Presence in power. That's one of the big misconcepts here on Vine,and makes me think that you have a moderate knowledge on characters (Presence, Michale and Lucifer), since such thing was never stated in comics.
Second thing Presence =/= equal to TOAA. Mainly because Presence is a character, and TOAA is representation of writers, and by thus ToAA> Presence. It was also stated by Presence that there are more powerrfull forces behind him (clearly indicating on writers), and by thus Presence has a limited onmipotence. Another thing that indicates that Presence isn't =/= TOAA is the fact that he has his power fluctuating. In his most powerfull version he is a representation of DC Multiverse, and later on in stories he was portrayed simply as a God that inherited large portin of the Godwave and by thus becomed more powerfull than other Gods. So basicly later stories show him as the creation of Godwave, and all Gods in DC are created from the first wave of the Godwave.
On the other hand TOAA supreme master, representation of marvel Omniverse, a totality that is >>> than multiverse. And even DC Multiverse is porttrayed as a part of Marvel Omniverse by marvel comp. "
I do get what you are saying and by using logic you make perfect sense. The thing is that I believe that DC has coined the term multiverse as a representation of all as opposed to Marvels interpritation of it which fits inside a Megaverse and the Megaverses fit inside a Omiverse. LT being the Governor of the Multiverse(s) makes him the Gov of the Megaverses and then the Omniverse but only taking orders from TOAA. I look at LT and TOAA as my old Karate school, My sensei or head sensei never tought the classes since he was busy with other sutff and he let the other senseis teach but if he felt that what they were doing was faulty he can make corrections even though not being the instructor to the class.
@JediXMan said:
" @daak1212: Omnipotence is a difficult thing. Really, no one has a real grasp of it. And there's also comic logic. "
I guess that makes sense
" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "
" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "mhmmmm...
who is on the Marvel Team ????
" @JediXMan said:Nobody knows. I just made a DC team that would be near-impossible to bring down without the One Above All." @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "mhmmmm...
who is on the Marvel Team ???? "
" @King Saturn said:it serves no purpose though unless the OP gives us his team..." @JediXMan said:Nobody knows. I just made a DC team that would be near-impossible to bring down without the One Above All. "" @Danilo018: For the record: Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team. There. "mhmmmm...
who is on the Marvel Team ???? "
" So no Presence? Got it. CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre MandrakkNekron Death of the Endless HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "Looks like your team wins by default since he hasn't picked a Marvel one.
" @JediXMan said:Ha ha." So no Presence? Got it. CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre MandrakkNekron Death of the Endless HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "Looks like your team wins by default since he hasn't picked a Marvel one. "
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