My Marvel Cosmics can beat yours at DC...

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#1  Edited By GamorasBigDaddy

Create a 1O Man DCU team representing there entire cosmos...Assume villan/hero's on team work together...  Only person can't pick is god in either U... 
 
Can your DC team overcome???
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#2  Edited By Danilo018
@GamorasBigDaddy said:
"Create a 1O Man DCU team representing there entire cosmos...Assume villan/hero's on team work together...  Only person can't pick is god in either U...  Can your DC team overcome??? "

and what is you're Marvel team ?
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#3  Edited By OldIdiotAccount
@Danilo018 said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
"Create a 1O Man DCU team representing there entire cosmos...Assume villan/hero's on team work together...  Only person can't pick is god in either U...  Can your DC team overcome??? "
and what is you're Marvel team ? "
Yeah. What?
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#4  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

So no Presence? Got it.
 
CoIE Anti-Monitor
Lucifer
Michael
Spectre 
Mandrakk
Nekron 
Death of the Endless   
HoG Ion
ZH Parallax
White Lantern
 
Beat that.

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#5  Edited By OldIdiotAccount
@JediXMan: We Don't Even Know WHO The Team Is.
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#6  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan: We Don't Even Know WHO The Team Is. "
Nobody short of the One Above All can bring that team down.
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#7  Edited By OldIdiotAccount
@JediXMan said:
" @Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan: We Don't Even Know WHO The Team Is. "
Nobody short of the One Above All can bring that team down. "
What Do You Mean?
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#8  Edited By Silver2467
@JediXMan said:
" So no Presence? Got it.  CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre  MandrakkNekron  Death of the Endless    HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "
I approve of this team. 
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#9  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan: We Don't Even Know WHO The Team Is. "
Nobody short of the One Above All can bring that team down. "
What Do You Mean? "
His rules specify no "God of of either U," which means no Presence or One Above All (I don't have either). They're the only ones with a chance of winning and it'd probably be a stalemate.
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#10  Edited By OldIdiotAccount
@JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM?
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#11  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM? "
I don't know. But without the One Above All, I don't see how any combo can win here.
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#12  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM? "
He's saying it doesn't matter because no Marvel Cosmics team can trump his, they can only stalemate it.
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#13  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Decoy Elite said:
" @Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM? "
He's saying it doesn't matter because no Marvel Cosmics team can trump his, they can only stalemate it. "
Exactly.
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#14  Edited By Decoy Elite
@JediXMan said:
" @Decoy Elite said:
" @Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM? "
He's saying it doesn't matter because no Marvel Cosmics team can trump his, they can only stalemate it. "
Exactly. "
Seems like a good enough plan. 50 bucks says the OP pulls out PR Beyonder.
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#15  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Decoy Elite said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Decoy Elite said:
" @Fortanono said:
" @JediXMan: WHAT IS THE TEAM? "
He's saying it doesn't matter because no Marvel Cosmics team can trump his, they can only stalemate it. "
Exactly. "
Seems like a good enough plan. 50 bucks says the OP pulls out PR Beyonder. "
And the Beyonder is either just under the One Above All or equal to him - it ends in a stalemate or a loss for Marvel's team.
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#16  Edited By Decoy Elite
@JediXMan: Well played.
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#17  Edited By daak1212
@Decoy Elite: Current Beyonder is the same power as PR Beyonder, they just made him Inhuman as opposed to a being of the Beyond verse.
@JediXMan said:

"So no Presence? Got it.  CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre  MandrakkNekron  Death of the Endless    HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "


Im pretty much going to use this except my Nekron is BN Nekron
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#18  Edited By Danilo018
@JediXMan said:
"So no Presence? Got it.  CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre  MandrakkNekron  Death of the Endless    HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "

This team can be taken out. If he uses Protege, LT, Slorioth, Chthon, Shuma Gorath, Cyttorak, Multi-Eternity, Multi-Infinity, Multi-Death, Multi-Oblivion, The Infinities, Nemesis (full power), Abraxas, Phoenix Force, Sise-Neg ... The DC team goes down easily. 
 
I would personally add to DC team, Ultimator, World's funiest Mxy, Bane-Mite, Bat-Mite... 
 
Basilcy what we need is OP to establish the number of the characters included in match
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#19  Edited By daak1212
@Danilo018 said:
"@JediXMan said:
"So no Presence? Got it.  CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre  MandrakkNekron  Death of the Endless    HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "
This team can be taken out. If he uses Protege, LT, Slorioth, Chthon, Shuma Gorath, Cyttorak, Multi-Eternity, Multi-Infinity, Multi-Death, Multi-Oblivion, The Infinities, Nemesis (full power), Abraxas, Phoenix Force, Sise-Neg ... The DC team goes down easily.  I would personally add to DC team, Ultimator, World's funiest Mxy, Bane-Mite, Bat-Mite...  Basilcy what we need is OP to establish the number of the characters included in match "

He said 10.  So no multi charecters since there infinite
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#20  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Danilo018: 
 
For the record:
 
Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.
 
There.
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#21  Edited By Silver2467
@JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch. 
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#22  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch.  "
What?
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#23  Edited By Silver2467
@JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch.  "
What? "
You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work. 
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#24  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch.  "
What? "
You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work.  "
Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing.
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#25  Edited By daak1212
@JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "

No they equal his creation aspect
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#26  Edited By Silver2467
@JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch.  "
What? "
You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work.  "
Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "
Oh, no, I never meant it like that. Sorry if it came across that way. 
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#27  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@daak1212 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
No they equal his creation aspect "
I believe it was stated that they do equal him.
 
@Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch.  "
What? "
You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work.  "
Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "
Oh, no, I never meant it like that. Sorry if it came across that way.  "
No problem. I just misread it.
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#28  Edited By daak1212
@JediXMan said:
" @daak1212 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
No they equal his creation aspect "
I believe it was stated that they do equal him.
 
@Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch.  "
What? "
You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work.  "
Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "
Oh, no, I never meant it like that. Sorry if it came across that way.  "
No problem. I just misread it. "

It was long and thought out but I think this was debated in the super thread where all the abstracts and superpowers of Marvel and Dc fought.  There where few exceptions.  Im no sure what its called but I think it was PhoenixoftheBlackThrone or Morpheus_ who clarified it as that they were equal to his creation aspect.  I have a hard time understanding on how 2 nigh omnipotents equal an omnipotent.  I guess that was the writters call not sanities
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#29  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@daak1212: 
 
Omnipotence is a difficult thing. Really, no one has a real grasp of it. And there's also comic logic.
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 @JediXMan said:

" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "

  They do not equal the Presence. Or if they do equal the Presence then it doesn't equal TOAA. Lucifer+Michael = Universe/Creation..... That's about as close to God as 1 is to infinity. Understand this, the concept of God encompasses ALL that is AND ISN'T. It's a very complex concept to grasp, it takes a very abstract mind to comprehend. The best example I can give of this is the imaginary unit i and all of the Complex number set. If you can make sense of that you'll be closer to understanding.
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#31  Edited By Danilo018
@JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch.  "
What? "
You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work.  "
Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "

First of all Michael + Lucifer =/= to Presence in power. That's one of the big misconcepts here on Vine,and makes me think that you have a moderate knowledge on characters (Presence, Michale and Lucifer), since such thing was never stated in comics.  
Second thing Presence =/= equal to TOAA. Mainly because Presence is a character, and TOAA is representation of writers, and by thus ToAA> Presence. It was also stated by Presence that there are more powerrfull forces behind him (clearly indicating on writers), and by thus Presence has a limited onmipotence. Another thing that indicates that Presence isn't =/= TOAA is the fact that he has his power fluctuating. In his most powerfull version he is a representation of DC Multiverse, and later on in stories he was portrayed simply as a God that inherited large portin of the Godwave and by thus becomed more powerfull than other Gods. So basicly later stories show him as the creation of Godwave, and all Gods in DC are created from the first wave of the Godwave.  
On the other hand TOAA supreme master, representation of marvel Omniverse, a totality that is >>> than multiverse. And even DC Multiverse is porttrayed as a part of Marvel Omniverse by marvel comp.
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#32  Edited By daak1212
@Danilo018 said:
"@JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
Ouch.  "
What? "
You just knocked him out of the water and did so flawlessly. Nice work.  "
Ah, thank you. I thought it was a "you were harsh" thing. "

First of all Michael + Lucifer =/= to Presence in power. That's one of the big misconcepts here on Vine,and makes me think that you have a moderate knowledge on characters (Presence, Michale and Lucifer), since such thing was never stated in comics.  
Second thing Presence =/= equal to TOAA. Mainly because Presence is a character, and TOAA is representation of writers, and by thus ToAA> Presence. It was also stated by Presence that there are more powerrfull forces behind him (clearly indicating on writers), and by thus Presence has a limited onmipotence. Another thing that indicates that Presence isn't =/= TOAA is the fact that he has his power fluctuating. In his most powerfull version he is a representation of DC Multiverse, and later on in stories he was portrayed simply as a God that inherited large portin of the Godwave and by thus becomed more powerfull than other Gods. So basicly later stories show him as the creation of Godwave, and all Gods in DC are created from the first wave of the Godwave.  
On the other hand TOAA supreme master, representation of marvel Omniverse, a totality that is >>> than multiverse. And even DC Multiverse is porttrayed as a part of Marvel Omniverse by marvel comp. "
TOAA has been portrayed as a charecter also
 
 


 
 

I do get what you are saying and by using logic you make perfect sense.  The thing is that I believe that DC has coined the term multiverse as a representation of all as opposed to Marvels interpritation of it which fits inside a Megaverse and the Megaverses fit inside a Omiverse.  LT being the Governor of the Multiverse(s) makes him the Gov of the Megaverses and then the Omniverse but only taking orders from TOAA.  I look at LT and TOAA as my old Karate school, My sensei or head sensei never tought the classes since he was busy with other sutff and he let the other senseis teach but if he felt that what they were doing was faulty he can make corrections even though not being the instructor to the class.
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" @daak1212:   Omnipotence is a difficult thing. Really, no one has a real grasp of it. And there's also comic logic. "

I guess that makes sense 
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#33  Edited By GT-Man

Whats the TEAM!
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#34  Edited By Great Evil Beast

I solo.

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#35  Edited By Danilo018
@daak1212:
Yea in this cases, but when he usually appears he takes the look of Jack Kirby or Stan Lee.
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@JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "

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#37  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@TheJuggernautpunch: 
 
Which part? The Presence = One Above All or Lucifer + Michael = Presence? The latter I might be incorrect on. The former is true.
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#38  Edited By Tevnoba

PR Molecule Man
Protege
Nemesis (Fully Restored)
LT 
Fulcrum
Dreaming Celestial (Tiamut)
Void
Phoenix Force
Eternity/Infinity (Combined)
Galactus w/Ultimate Nulifier

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#39  Edited By King_Saturn
@JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
mhmmmm...  
who is on the Marvel Team ????
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#40  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@King Saturn said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
mhmmmm...  
who is on the Marvel Team ???? "
Nobody knows. I just made a DC team that would be near-impossible to bring down without the One Above All.
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@JediXMan: Both.
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#42  Edited By King_Saturn
@JediXMan said:
" @King Saturn said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Danilo018:   For the record:  Lucifer + Michael = Presence = The One Above All. The One Above All > your team.  There. "
mhmmmm...  
who is on the Marvel Team ???? "
Nobody knows. I just made a DC team that would be near-impossible to bring down without the One Above All. "
it serves no purpose though unless the OP gives us his team... 
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#43  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@King Saturn: 
 
True.
 
@TheJuggernautpunch:
 
How? How is the Presence not equal to the One Above All?
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@JediXMan: And how is he equal ?
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#45  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @JediXMan: And how is he equal ? "
They're both the same thing in their respective universes. They both hold the title of being #1.
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@JediXMan: No.
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@JediXMan said:
" So no Presence? Got it.  CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre  MandrakkNekron  Death of the Endless    HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "
Looks like your team wins by default since he hasn't picked a Marvel one.
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#48  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @JediXMan: No. "
How? They are both considered to be #1 by the characters in their universes.
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#49  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Fist_of_Mandalore said:
" @JediXMan said:
" So no Presence? Got it.  CoIE Anti-Monitor Lucifer Michael Spectre  MandrakkNekron  Death of the Endless    HoG Ion ZH ParallaxWhite Lantern Beat that. "
Looks like your team wins by default since he hasn't picked a Marvel one. "
Ha ha.
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@JediXMan: Presence is not #1.