MUI Goku vs UE Vegeta

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Poll MUI Goku vs UE Vegeta (183 votes)

Carrot 48%
Vegetable 34%
Could go either way 13%
Results 6%
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  • Current versions (obviously)
  • Bloodlusted
  • Takes place on an indestructible planet
  • Win by death or K.O., no BFR
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Idk I haven’t kept up with the manga since the morro arc(and even then I dropped it). So when can vegeta do exactly in this form

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Going with Carrot

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@alphamon: My bad man. Not gonna spoil anything.

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I would say Vegeta, but I know they gonna buff Goku in the upcoming chapters so Goku.

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Carrot since he can dance around Vegeta while doing damage.

Vegetable's body will eventually give out on himself.

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Vegeta gets an L just because of the name...Ultra Ego...like bruh

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Could go either way for right now imo, I'd like to see more out of UE Vegeta. He did do better against Granolah than Goku did tho.

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For now it's UE, but it will eventually become MUE. So MUI Goku vs MUE Vegeta

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Ultra Ego is just directly superior right now.

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Goku

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Could go either way. I want to see how UI at peak efficiency measures up to true body Granolah but as of right now Vegeta has feats over Goku.

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Jobbergeta loses.

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Vegeta going off of Granolah's reaction to him transforming.

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My money still on Kakarott

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As of right now UE Vegeta can outlast MUI goku. It essentially a battle of stamina were vegeta gets stronger with damage and goku get weaker with MUI use. Vegeta can play his cards right and take damage to get stronger, but not enough to make him lose. Also drawing out the battle until goku MUI stamina runs out giving him the W.

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#21  Edited By Jack_Hart

Unless PUI Goku gets an upgrade on his next showing he gets stomped by UE Vegeta. Vegeta withstood hits from the real Granolah who is stronger than the PUI Goku we have seen so far, he even withstood his own super Hakai blowing up on his face without going back to base. Goku would sooner burn out PUI before he comes close to making ground against UE Vegeta while getting his ass kicked in the process.

And why are we still calling it "MUI" Goku? The official term is Perfected UI or PUI. It's like calling Ultra Ego "Mega Instinct" or whatever fan created term we have been using until now.

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#24  Edited By TakenStew22

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Nice vid. Though I don't see how Goku wouldn't be able to dodge Vegeta's "big explosions".

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@jack_hart: MUI is a more well-known term for it. It doesn't really matter though cause "mastered" and "perfected" are generally the same thing.

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Vegeta literally let’s himself take hits to get stronger and goku has his severe awareness problem so probably vegeta.

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@takenstew22: Do you agree explosion speed scales with character power?

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Vegeta

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Vegeta wins this hands down.

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Bump.

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did Vegeta took another L in new chapter?

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@tauio said:

did Vegeta took another L in new chapter?

The fight looks like it'll still continue but I wouldn't get my hope up. Tori hates Veggie.

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@tauio said:

did Vegeta took another L in new chapter?

The fight looks like it'll still continue but I wouldn't get my hope up. Tori hates Veggie.

Tori hates db alltogether going by his writing at this point lol

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Everyone saying vegeta is stronger just for him to get his ass beat next chapter and goku beats down Granolah lmao

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Vegeta will never beat Goku, at least not cleanly.

The writers have Vegeta as the embodiment of ego/pride and even though he has come a long way in his development, where he ultimately draws his power from is unable to previal when up againts Goku's nature

At least that is the conclusion I have gotten from being a life long fan of dragon ball

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Vegeta definitely wins as of right now. Goku stamina is far too poor to ever win this fight. Later on will likely be different

Also I don't think granolah will be beaten by goku. I think his eyepiece will help him realize he's being manipulated by those vampires. And he'll fight them after they make whatever wish they are trying to make. He's already started to realize that the saiyans aren't at all what he thought but he can't let go of his revenge right now

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Vegeta

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@theemperor95: agreed the main antagonist is most likely going to be the kid buu with dreads

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#42  Edited By noobsnowman

Vegeta is severely overrated in this form. He lost to a Granolah who isn't even powered up to begin with, and had a portion of his power used to fight Goku earlier (Granolah had to split his power to conserve his energy to battle Frieza). Goku in comparison, was utterly dominating the clone Granolah, and Granolah had to wait for the form to wear out and not engage in Goku for a bit to strike his vital organ.

Vegeta's fight against Granolah also goes to show that Saiyans do get weaker in battle, but people seem to ignore this even though it has been a prevalant issue since the start of DB. Vegeta can get an increase in power throughout the fight sure, but his ever decreasing stamina and ki consumption as the fight wears on is and will always be a liability, which applies to all Saiyans.

Vegeta's hype is all down to recency bias, despite the fact that the feats game points to Goku's outright and consistent superiority ever since the ToP. Goku has been established to surpass all Gods of Destruction ever since the ToP, and Vegeta's current form does not cut it against Beerus, let alone Goku. Even in this fight, Goku can simply sit back and wait for Vegeta to wear himself out, or he can simply kill Vegeta via speedblitz. Vegeta's over-reliance on tanking hits in hoping to get stronger will cost him this match.

Goku stomps.

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@noobsnowman: What your saying is a essentially headcanon to put it into one word.

1) MUI Goku was blitzed by Granola when his accuracy fell.

This will happen if he faces UE Vegeta Nevermind UE Vegeta was faster then Granola before he adapted lmao

2) MUI Goku’s durability doesn’t change cause he’s off guard.

SSBE Vegeta was tanking the attacks that oneshotted MUI Goku, Nevermind Granola was getting stronger as they fought.

3) In dragon ball increased like means an increase too all stats.

If UE Vegeta has better durability he has better overall stats then MUI Goku, as is seen when he got blitzed.

4) Base Granola was the strongest in the universe

The wish accounts for the form of MUI that Goku had during the time of the wish so Granola without growing is stronger the MUI Goku, what the wish didn’t account for was UE form which was being used for the first time by Vegeta, meaning MUI Goku can’t hit harder then Granola

Conclusion) MUI Goku in this fight will only drop his accuracy, meanwhile UE Vegeta only gets stronger and stronger, MUI Goku doesn’t hit as hard as base Granola, UE Vegeta is damn durable, and honestly UE Vegeta’s base stats is in without adapting is already more impressive for blitzing the hell out of base Granola who blitzed MUI Goku. Goku stands no chance.

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@alextheboss: I just want to say big explosion or not Goku should be able to avoid it, especially since he has IT and consistently uses it in combat.

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@superprimetime: Oh you want to call my argument headcanon? You better have something to back it up if you're going to use an insulting word to my argument that is properly backed up with what actually happened in the manga. Let's see:

This will happen if he faces UE Vegeta Nevermind UE Vegeta was faster then Granola before he adapted lmao

First line and you start it off with an opinion rather than an argument? Based on what do you think this will happen?

SSBE Vegeta was tanking the attacks that oneshotted MUI Goku, Nevermind Granola was getting stronger as they fought.

Except that Granolah was not using his vital point attacks against Vegeta? Granolah was trying to overwhelm Vegeta with sheer power, he made no attempt to strike his vital organs.

If UE Vegeta has better durability he has better overall stats then MUI Goku, as is seen when he got blitzed.

Darn, already forgetting that he had to strike Goku's vital part to put him down for the count, while Granolah did not do that to Vegeta. But let's just forget Goku easily tanking Moro-73's attacks like its nothing, with Moro-73 himself surpassing the likes of Jiren, and by extension Beerus.

The wish accounts for the form of MUI that Goku had during the time of the wish so Granola without growing is stronger the MUI Goku, what the wish didn’t account for was UE form which was being used for the first time by Vegeta, meaning MUI Goku can’t hit harder then Granola

This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard in a while. Wishing to be the strongest has nothing to do with "Granolah without being stronger", like have you even considered that Granolah's ability to progress is part of being the strongest?

MUI Goku in this fight will only drop his accuracy, meanwhile UE Vegeta only gets stronger and stronger, MUI Goku doesn’t hit as hard as base Granola, UE Vegeta is damn durable, and honestly UE Vegeta’s base stats is in without adapting is already more impressive for blitzing the hell out of base Granola who blitzed MUI Goku. Goku stands no chance.

Except that Vegeta is a literal potato when his form expires while Goku can still fight for extended periods of time, as referenced from his fight against Moro-73. You can't really claim that Vegeta is durable when Vegeta himself realized that his overreliance on tanking hits, which isn't even that many to begin with, would eventually cost him his match. He deliberately took a couple of hits head on thinking that it will fuel him but in reality he got lost in the thrill of the battle and it weakened him over and over, to the point that he was severely injured after being too close to the explosion at the end.

And what about Saiyans getting weaker throughout the battle due to stamina issues? Made no attempt to address that did you? Are you going to be bold at call it headcanon to my face now? I dare you to recall any fights in the show that Goku and Vegeta are involved in, from Dragonball to Dragonball Super, to prove that losing stamina is something that is headcanon. Vegeta's fight against Granolah literally spilled this literal fact all over your face but you decide to delude yourself to say that Vegeta is 'insanely' durable. At least Goku didn't attempt to tank hits in hoping to get stronger, he knows better than to allow his body to weaken unnecessarily. You decided to selectively reply to what I said because you got so offended that someone says that Goku stomps.

So you're all talk and no meat? What a shame. Don't bother replying to me because I'm not going to bother to respond unless you got actual feats to back it up instead of your own "headcanon" interpretation of the fight. The moment you said Vegeta is 'insanely' durable, you instantly lost all credibility in your so called argument.

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#46  Edited By rahimi00

@noobsnowman: dammmnn u really are salty af. What u mean by granolah not hitting him like goku? Vegeta literally bleeding all over the place last chapter and still kinda went toe to toe with ssbe alone. Regarding the wish, kinda true. Since Ui exists b4 the wish while vegeta learned UE after the wish. Technically, UI aint cut it. Dude, vegeta is thousands time more durable than goku. 1.got hit by freeza final form, a lot n still alive b4 being shot to the heart. 2.being ragdolled by kid buu even that buu that was said to be pure evil was shaking. 3.goku got kicked out of UI by moro while vegeta being hit by moro in SSBE and actually drained moro. 4.vegeta fought granolah in SSBE and lasted longer than MUI Goku. Are u dumb?

Little advice to u. Dont go aggressive on someone thats saying facts. U r just here being a gokutard n went batshit. This is internet. Not porn. Dont take it so hard.

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@thewatcherking: But he needs to target a ki before using IT, so he would need to quickly find one outside that massive explosion. Goku could possibly get out with IT, but then he would have to come back, where Vegeta could just do that again.

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@rahimi00: Damn, so many of you random trolls/alts coming out these days, chill the fuck out lmao. Where did you pull that "Vegeta is thousands of times more durable than Goku" bullcrap. Stop using fanfics and post feats and scans.

Granolah has shown the ability to ignore durability. What is that you guys don't get? If Granolah used this on Vegeta, he would have get oneshotted as well, Jesus...

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Vegeta slams

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@alextheboss: I doubt Vegeta would be spamming it, and Goku has used IT to avoid attacks from much faster characters than himself many times so Vegeta shouldn’t be difficult to teleport away from especially given UI gives Goku greater combat speed than Vegeta.