MUI Goku vs Pre Crisis Superman

Fight takes place at a bar

Goku will not lose his ui as long as he can stand up

Round 1: Morals On

Round 2: Morals off

Goku one-shots. He's shown to be universal in base form in DBH when he caught a crystal that was said to have all the energy of a universe while he was in UI which has the raw physical strength of his base.

even me who i am a db "fanboy" i have to say pre crisis superman is the second most powerfull version of superman (first being strange visitor) goku loses here but a better match would be xeno goku vs this version of superman.

i think its cannon goku from anime/manga not dragon ball heroes.

@smokernaruto: Goku is at least 1,524,000,000x standard universal in MUi. How can superman keep up with that?

i think its cannon goku from anime/manga not dragon ball heroes.

Oh. Goku shouldn't stomp then. If it is though, he stomps.

Any incarnation can be used if this is a stomp in superman's favor

Goku wins. Pre-Crisis Superman is inconsistent and his best non-outlier feats are about solar system level.

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This fight really depends on superman's mind set tbh. He can't sense ki so he'd have no idea how powerful Goku is. That means if Goku punched him with enough force to bust a universe and he was prepping for a building level hit, he'd get KTFO or heavily injured.

wow i know goku is universal to multiversal but superman is multiversal too and have crazy speed by flying through time he speed blitz

if this was a non cannon version of goku i could say he wins cause dbh and games are broken af.

really? do i overrated this version of superman by saying he have immesurable speed and is low multiversal?

Is Goku vs Superman unbanned?

But on topic, I dunno

Nah, we just have to give our opinions before they lock it.

Pre-Crisis Supes has the occasional crazy feat that alot of Silver Age people seem to have but again it's mostly inconsistent. His consistent stuff involve star/black hole level feats, and as for his speed he has known to time travel but that's more travel speed than combat.

Goku is still faster in a fight than Superman. He blitzed Jiren who was faster than the concept of time.

Goku is at least 10-100x faster than the concept of time.

No, just mods being slow as always.

This thread will be locked. But the only version of superman that beats any version of goku is thought robot and strange visitor. Also goku wins this match.

Goku one shots.

Even if we default PC Supes to universal and all those PIS feats he still potentially loses to this Goku.

Unless you probably use this feat which is probably the most insane thing I've ever seen a Silver Age character do.

But then again this is a travel speed feat and even right before this issue Superman stated that a planetary missile from War World was a threat to him.

@takenstew22: this made me change my opinion about this superman.

i may be crazy but base form goku now current version should be multiversal tbh

I used to jump on the "Silver Age Supes is too OP" hype train because I just love how stupid some of his feats are lol but looking back at it he's not exactly as strong as I thought he was.

Goku should take this. Can Superman even hit UI goku

Goku with no sweat

Thought robot is weaker than strange visitor tbh. He was hurt by the heat of 10,000,000 suns.

@lordballer: huh really.

I thought, that the thought robot was multiverse level.

But if he was really hurt by 10 million Suns then he isn't that powerful or his durability is bad

He's just hyped up a lot because he broke the 4th Wall lmfao.

Pre crisis Superman people forget but he time travels with his speed and has crazy speed feats like flying to other universes in seconds making angels look slow

Goku gets blitzed and eventually loses, his durability is the only reason he doesn’t die immediately

I say mui Goku wins with high difficulty at best

It's sad that Goku is thousands of times universal but is still capped at Universal+ becuz only one character has a multiversal feat and happens to be the strongest in the verse.

@worldsgreatest: juza cloud downplay is disgusting

@blazeking22: English?

@worldsgreatest: He downplayed goku

If this is bronze age then goku one-shots. Silver age is where it gets to I dunno territory. Why is Supermans time travel such a big deal? As was stated several times back then traveling back and forth through time simply requires you to surpass the speed of light. So there's a very good chance this version of Goku could do it too

So long as the bar is in the dc universe

@worldsgreatest: Goku is via logic thousand of times x Universal, but feat wise, he's universal+ in base.

@Firstmanofsteel I do think Superman is faster, but Imo Goku has the durabilty and reaction time to counter Supermans speed and MUI is constantly evolving, but I know crap about pre crisis superman, lol. Couldn't goku just Bind superman and use Mafuuba?

Goku dodged Keflas and Jiren danmaku, which is almost impossible to dodge. Give Goku a bit more time and he becomes super OP, lol.

@animeisniche_ok: you should look at juza cloud downplay. You would puke

Can't goku simply god bind him like he did to broly and Moro.

Even the likes of Moro couldn't do jack shit during god bind

He wasn't hurt by just 10 million suns. Mandrakk was bragging during their fight and one of the things he said during an attack was "the power of 10 billion suns". If anything, it was an attack whose temperature was the temperature of the Sun x1000000000, not just 10 billion suns thrown at the Cosmic Armor.

@lordballer: That is a low ball. There a feat were thought robot play with the DC multiverse with his fingers.

Damn, the mods are very slow this time. Usually Goku vs Superman threads get alot of attention lol.

Thor solos both

1 trillion suns still isn't much to someone like Goku who's easily a universe buster in just base form, much less UI which is at the very least a billion times universal. Not even going to mention his theoretical maxes which should be well above 1000 times that.

Remember : UI technically isn't a transformation, it's a skill.

I'm not talking about Cosmic Armor vs Goku, just clarifying what was the 10 Billion Suns scene. This thread isn't about the Cosmic Armor.

@ouroborik: I'm just clarifying too, no worries.

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Goku one shots

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