Ms Marvel Vs Starfire

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#1  Edited By Methos
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#2  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Going to have to take Starfire in this one.

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#3  Edited By Barry Flash

Yeah i agree, Starfire wins.

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#4  Edited By Mighty Thorion

Are we talking looks or powers LOL! Anyway I think Starfire's powers make her the winner - but I wouldn't mind being rescued by either of them!

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#5  Edited By Hadrelius

Wouldn't Ms. Marvel just absorb her power. I feel they may be equal in strength but the more power Ms. Marvel absorb the more powerful she would become.

I goin with Ms Marvel

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#6  Edited By DRDOOMSDAY360

SAME HERE MS. MARVEL

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#7  Edited By SeanAKAMisery

Ms Marvel would win this she could absorb energy thrown at her as pointed out.

She is stronger in strength by how much not sure, but more than enough

She could go Binary if she absorbs enough energy, I know Methos said this is not Binary, but he never said she can't go Binary if she absorbs enough energy.

Ms Marvel wins hands down

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#8  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Gambler said:
"Going to have to take Starfire in this one. "
I'm going to assume your joking.
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#9  Edited By SeanAKAMisery
Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"Going to have to take Starfire in this one. "
I'm going to assume your joking."
I hope he is I already proved why Carol takes the win lol
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#10  Edited By One-Above-You
SeanAKAMisery said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"Going to have to take Starfire in this one. "
I'm going to assume your joking."
I hope he is I already proved why Carol takes the win lol
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His post was made 5 months ago...
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#11  Edited By intothetempest

Well seeing as the last post was made 2 years ago I think it's time we have a look at the battle now, have power levels changed between the 2 characters? I'd say Ms Marvel pretty much in agreement of what every body else said

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#12  Edited By 651

ms marvel 

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#13  Edited By Achilles.

2 years!! 
any way ms marvel wins.

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#14  Edited By Static Shock

Starfire.

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#15  Edited By beatboks1

Miss Marvel. In no way is Kory as strong or durable as Carol

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#16  Edited By Renee

I would go with Starfire.

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#17  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Starfire

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#18  Edited By Static Shock
@beatboks1 said:
" Miss Marvel. In no way is Kory as strong or durable as Carol "
The strength issue is debatable. I can agree that Starfire doesn't have as many strength feats as Ms. Marvel. All we have to go by for Starfire is that she's still stronger than Donna, who has shown to be Class 100+, recently. The durability issue is supported by her ability to take a blow from Wonder Woman, as far as other things.
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#19  Edited By beatboks1
@Static Shock said:
" @beatboks1 said:
" Miss Marvel. In no way is Kory as strong or durable as Carol "
The strength issue is debatable. I can agree that Starfire doesn't have as many strength feats as Ms. Marvel. All we have to go by for Starfire is that she's still stronger than Donna, who has shown to be Class 100+, recently. The durability issue is supported by her ability to take a blow from Wonder Woman, as far as other things. "
Is this a recent change. I was a huge fan of the Wolfman and Perez era titans, but have only picked up the odd book with Starfire in it since the end of the New Titans in 96 (or was it 95)
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#20  Edited By nightwing91

starfire

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#22  Edited By Static Shock
@beatboks1: Well, after Donna's most recent retcon, she was established to be a magical copy of Wonder Woman. In Wonder Woman's last run, Donna was strong enough to engage her in physical combat (which would support the Class 100+ strength, although she isn't as strong as Wonder Woman). But, in a recent Titans issue, when Kory was beating someone to a pulp, Donna was unable to hold Kory back with her strength alone, and needed Mon-El to help her. I took that to mean that Kory was still stronger than her, as she's always been.
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#23  Edited By Xavier St. Cloud

Starfire
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#24  Edited By beatboks1
@Static Shock said:
" @beatboks1: Well, after Donna's most recent retcon, she was established to be a magical copy of Wonder Woman. In Wonder Woman's last run, Donna was strong enough to engage her in physical combat (which would support the Class 100+ strength, although she isn't as strong as Wonder Woman). But, in a recent Titans issue, when Kory was beating someone to a pulp, Donna was unable to hold Kory back with her strength alone, and needed Mon-El to help her. I took that to mean that Kory was still stronger than her, as she's always been. "
Thanks I may have to reconsider my choice.
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#25  Edited By Sinestro2828

I believe that Starfire would beat Ms Marvel in a fight because Star's strength levels are in the 100+ class whereas Ms Marvel can normally only handle like 70 something tons, and can only exceed those normal limits for brief periods of time whereas Star's normal strength level far exceeds her own, and if Star were to go berserk as she's been known to do sometimes she'd crush Ms Marvel instantly. 
 
Ms Marvel supposedly has energy absorbing powers I think, but CAN be overloaded if the blast is more than she can handle, and Starfire is powered by the sun and capable of going supernova, so even that wouldn't be enough to help Carol win.  Kory would emerge the winner of this bout.

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#26  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

im gonna have to say kori on this one
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#27  Edited By Fire Star

Ms. Marvel.
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#28  Edited By Backflip

I'm a bit of a Ms. Marvel fanboy, but she loses this match up. Starfire is too much for her on a physical level.

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#29  Edited By MarquisDeTagle_
non-Binary Ms. marvel doesn't have a chance against Starfire. Starfire wins
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#30  Edited By Sherlock

Starfire takes this with ease

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#31  Edited By karrob

Ms. Marvel

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#32  Edited By mrtrickster

starfire

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#33  Edited By termiteone4ever

Starfire Strength is way greater not to mention her powers. Her durability is pretty high much higher than miss Marvel. 
Starfire got this.
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#34  Edited By Baddamdog

I think a lot of people are under-estimating Ms. Marvel here!!

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#35  Edited By Fire Star
@termiteone4ever said:
"Starfire Strength is way greater not to mention her powers. Her durability is pretty high much higher than miss Marvel. Starfire got this. "

Ummm what do you mean by powers ? 
And she is not way stronger. Ms. Marvel is at a class 75 ton at normal conditions, however she has been seen to be at 100 level strength many a times. Ummm proof her durability is higher than Ms. Marvel ?
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#36  Edited By charlieboy

well seeing as how kory's starbolts are just going to make carol stronger i don't think that there is going to be much difference in their physical stats. and carol has held her own against wonder man at normal levels. both are skilled combatants. but i think that since carol's energy absorbing powers take out kory's best weapon that carol has a good shot of winning this.
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#37  Edited By FinalStar86
@Sherlock said:
" Starfire takes this with ease "
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#38  Edited By charlieboy
@FinalStar86:
can i ask why you think that? just curious.
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#39  Edited By Fire Star

Carol wins due to energy absorbtion.


 

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#40  Edited By adamwarner42

Miss Marvel because every bolt Starfire shoots Miss Marvel absorbs and becomes stronger

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#41  Edited By Aqua11500
@adamwarner42:  Starfire is an Energy absorber too,and She has warrior experience form on her home world of Tameran,she is probably a better brawler than Carol,and i think she is more durable because of her Alien Physiology,though in strength they are about the same 
 
I say Starfire 
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#42  Edited By charlieboy
@Aqua11500:
carol has military experience and training. she once took out mystique h2h when she had no powers.  also carol's powers are of alien origin so i don't see how starfire's alien physiology makes her more durable.
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#43  Edited By Fire Star
@Aqua11500:
As charlieboy said, she has H2H skills too, and what makes her alien physiology more durable than Carol's ? Any feats ?
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#44  Edited By adamwarner42
@Aqua11500 said:

" @adamwarner42:  Starfire is an Energy absorber too,and She has warrior experience form on her home world of Tameran,she is probably a better brawler than Carol,and i think she is more durable because of her Alien Physiology,though in strength they are about the same  I say Starfire  "



She has military and C.I.A. experience so I bet she knows hand to hand combat. Also, how is Starfire more durable, Miss Marvel got her powers from an alien orgin so show me feats of Starfires durability that could outrank Ms. Marvel's
   
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#45  Edited By Fire Star
@adamwarner42 said:
"@Aqua11500 said:

" @adamwarner42:  Starfire is an Energy absorber too,and She has warrior experience form on her home world of Tameran,she is probably a better brawler than Carol,and i think she is more durable because of her Alien Physiology,though in strength they are about the same  I say Starfire  "

She has military and C.I.A. experience so I bet she knows hand to hand combat. Also, how is Starfire more durable, Miss Marvel got her powers from an alien orgin so show me feats of Starfires durability that could outrank Ms. Marvel's    "

I wouldn't output Starfire's durability either, IMHO they stalemate in that area.
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#46  Edited By lastdrag0n89

Ms Marvel on this one with difficulty. It will come down to experience and Carol's energy absorbing powers play a big part.

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#47  Edited By Sherlock

The energy absorbing wont do much Kory is more of a brawler anyway and when she sees that her Starbolts are having no effect i doubt shell keep using them
 
Anyway shes stronger faster and a better fighter i dont see how Ms marvel will win here

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#48  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt


Ms.Marvel
Ms.Marvel
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#49  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt
@Aqua11500:
Kori can only absorb solar energy if im not mistaken, whereas Carol can absorb virtually all forms of energy
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#50  Edited By Preacherl2k

Wow this is a tough call, 
Kori is class 100+                                                               Carol 92 tons normally
Kori can absorb UV radiation                                            Carol can absorb all types of energy making her stronger
Kori has a "star blast"                                                         Carol would absorb it and turn into Binary
Kori has a berserker rage making her stronger etc     Carol would need to go Binary to counter that
Kori can survive in space normally                                  Carol can do the same 

 
Ok this one could easily go either way but in the end I'd give the edge to Carol because if she turns into Binary before Kori goes berserker its over.