Movie Thor vs Movie Ghost Rider

Fight is in an abandoned city, neither are holding back. Who wins and why?

The Mighty Thor strikes down thee. 

Hemsworth walks all over Cage.

Gonna have to go with Thor on this one.

no contest thor would fry ghost rider with thunder

Movie Ghost Rider isn't impressive.

Thor in a massive curbstomp

MOVIE THOR

Movie Thor in a brutal stomp.

Thor took out all those frost giants with ease, he beat loki, the destroyer...etc...etc...etc

thor stomps ghost rider hard.

The film incarnation of Ghost Rider hasn't shown anything remotely close to what he's capable of in comics and stands no chance.

Flagged for mismatch.

No offense to Midget, this does not deserve to be locked at all. Honestly this is a close match if you think what Thor does is legit Magic. If not, then Thor should lose handily as only supernatural, not science base Magic affects GR. meanwhile, I find GR can handle Thor with his power set, including the Penance Stare.

Durability

Lets talk about GR best power, he is IMMORTAL! He sign a deal with the devil, and the devil himself stated in movie one that he is no good to him Dead which is why Blaze could never die, whether as Ghost Rider or Blaze.

As seen, Blaze remembers the deal with the devil right before he crashes on his suicide stunt, and suffers no injuries. Not even KOed. This is human form. Blaze as a human also wiped out and seemingly died on his motorcycle earlier, only to have Mephisto say to him, "Your no good to me dead." Then Blaze wakes up. Blaze friend states he should be dead ten times over, must have a angel watching over him, to which Blaze says its something else. Fact is, its well establish he cannot die as human, much less the rider.

Here the Rider has his jaw busted off, and he snaps in out with no problem or issues.

As seen in the first gif, the bullet wounds auto heal in a split second of contact showing that immortality to damage. Second one shows him increasing durability to eat the bullets and throw them back up.

GR here races down the skyscraper at high speeds, and slams with enough force to blow back the officers a bit, and crater the area around him. He is unfazed.

GR here tanks a ramming Semi Truck moving at high speeds. No damage what so ever though this attack would equate to Hulk Buster Tony of MCU can put out.

This Grenade does no damage. Ghost Rider even defies physics with cartooney effect after it lol.

GR was effected by the Child of Satan, and still tank with no shown damage these grenade launchers initial barrage.

Mark 19 Grenade Launcher off loading on GR on his bike, no effect. Does not even push him away or cause GR to be blasted away from the force.

Powerful anti tank missiles from LAWs that did no damage to GR at all. Or even stun GR for that matter.

What is GR weak too though? Magic. Its the ONLY weakness he has been shown to have.

Black out given the magic power to black out the area around him, as well the Death Touch that decays and kills whatever he touches. Even after choking GR with this power for some time showed some effect on GR, it still was not enough.

Blackheart, the son of the Devil, was able to choke GR with his death touch, and then outright cancel GR powers altogether.

In the infamous scene of GR being KOed by grenade launchers, the context is shown here. The Son of the Devil, the child, was affecting Ghost Rider with a look, causing Blaze's hand to shake, and allowed GR to be a target for the henchmen. The child did this after GR harmed his mother.

Once again we see the Child with a devil voice ordering GR to obey him, and shut GR down altogether with a look.

Fact is the only people able to harm the Rider are people with supernatural abilities.

Super Strength

GR has it.

Able to force a chopper, and toss it away.

His best strength feat is slamming Mephisto through the planets crust, into the lava chamber levels far below.

Speed

Ghost Rider is very fast.

The Speed of the Rider is enough to leave blurs, or move at impossible to speeds of any normal human.

Transmutation

Anything non living can be trans mutated by Hellfire, and turn into Ghost Rider weapon.

Any non living material can be reform and made into Ghost Riders own toy through the Hellfire transmutation abilities. Vehicles, weapons, or certain armors of a certain MCU Avenger.

Hell Cycle

What gear odes GR like above all? His flaming ride of course.

Its able to move at high speeds, including up buildings on the glass itself, and stay afloat on water.

Its strong enough to plow through two cop cars with ease.

Hell Fire

The main form of power and attack GR has in the films.

GR melts high grade steel into molten lead with the wave of his hand.

GR disintegrate a human by touching him.

His Hellfire was enough to make Blackheart scream in agony.

Under water GR is able to disentigrate the Angel who takes the form of water in seconds.

Able to projectile Hellfire with explosive force that blew Legion empowered Blackheart to pieces.

Able to blast Hellfire in a AOE attack.

Able to summon a wall of this uber powerful Hellfire in a large radius.

This Hellfire is powerful enough to cause wake damage all around it when GR is just driving by. Melting steel in the vicinity, sending cars flying off the road, and all with the back ground catching fire.

Chain Attacks

GR is also known to use his Chain as a weapon, a tool, or charge it with Hellfire for more attack options.

The Chains are used to nab people, and they have the ability to act on their own as well.

The chains are even able to reach, and tie impossible areas because they are semi self aware for the Rider.

These chains can be Hellfire empowered to disintegrate humans, and their gear on touch. Not only ashing humans with a split second of contact, but the plastic, and metals on them too. He uses this form of attack several times in the film, including one shotting to ash 30+ humans around him.

Able to create a chain vortex of Hellfire to kill a intangible Angel of wind.

Takes out a Angel made of earth, who has a shown healing factor to boot from the hellfire chains.

Penance Stare

The greatest weapon GR has is his Penance Stare which makes you feel all the pain you caused others, and eats your soul. One thing to note on the Penance Stare, is the fact that you cannot simply close your eyes to it. In the films, Black Heart was unable too, even with the power up from Legion. In the second film, it was shown people watching the PS would lose the will to do anything, and Blackout stated do not stare at it or you will be affected.

States you feel all the pain you caused at once.

Stated to suck your soul out. Also states that no matter what bad deed you done, even for good reason, the Rider will find it, and eat your soul.

The Penance Stare is powerful enough to burn 1000s of souls at once.

@sirfizzwhizz: Agreed. This is not a mismatch. Though I'd still give it to Thor as he tanked Destroyer blasts IIRC.

When was he directly hit by them? After picking up Mjolnir, all he did was block the blasts with Mjolnir.

Fair enough. I see no counter for Penance Stare though if GR can pull it off.

Wasnt he hit by them? Now I cant recall for sure lol.

Like I said, IIRC. But if he didn't then it becomes more debatable as Thor hasn't really resisted powerful energy blasts or anything like hellfire without his hammer. I still think Thor beats him down with Mjolnir, the question is will he stay down?

@sirfizzwhizz: I think it works on any being with a soul and I'd say Thor has a soul.

I only recall an indirect blast when he was still human. The Destroyer hit in front of Thor and sent him flying. But as Thor, with Mjolnir, I don't think he was ever hit.

Thor doesn't have to get anywhere NEAR GR to crush him. Massive bolts of (supernatural is used as the same term as ultra advanced science...which i think is bogus...it may very well be the same for the GR mythology..if not, I'd certainly call it close enough), a localized F5 tornado (it's not just THAT it's blowing, it WHAT it's blowing lol ;) ) Shock waves of earth shattering thunder and the like.

Thor doesn't even HAVE to kill GR, just put him down. Wrap a small girder of steel around his eyes. Bam. No more Penance Stare.

GR. The penance stare is enough for thor to crumble, not to mention he cannot be destroyed.

@heroup2112:

Thor doesn't have to get anywhere NEAR GR to crush him.

Same for GR actually.

Massive bolts of (supernatural is used as the same term as ultra advanced science...which i think is bogus...it may very well be the same for the GR mythology..if not, I'd certainly call it close enough), a localized F5 tornado (it's not just THAT it's blowing, it WHAT it's blowing lol ;) ) Shock waves of earth shattering thunder and the like.

Thats all well and good, but a F5 is doing no damage, not that Thor made a F5, it was more like a F3, nit picking lol.

Also the question is the Thunderbolt doing any major damage that Iron Man level missiles are? Also how is Lightning hurting GR at all if not magical? Though even if we assume it could harm GR, Lightning is Electricity, and Heat base damage. Neither working on a being made of fire that burns hotter than any lightning Thor used before.

Thor doesn't even HAVE to kill GR, just put him down. Wrap a small girder of steel around his eyes. Bam. No more Penance Stare.

How would Thor KNOW about the Penance Stare, and why would a steel girder work when GR melts high grade steel or transmute metals?

Good point. Then Thor used his MAGIC hammer Mjolnir to smash GR into little pieces, with luck, he won't lock eyes with the fiend :)

lol

@sirfizzwhizz: This would be AFTER all the lightning, tornado, and thunder strikes of course...Thor'd be stupid to try to go up and WALLUP this demon on a motorcycle thing creating major havoc. Hmmm, he's got so much ego he MIGHT though. I dunno

@heroup2112: I think Thor would brah up to GR. He uses his powers rarely, relying on the Thor smash aspect

Like against Iron Man, Hulk, Kurse, and that other Dark Elf Villain no one remembers lol.

@sirfizzwhizz: Sadly, you're right, and Thor has thousands of years of penance to make up for...

Oh, and his name's Malaketh. I may be one of the few people that really did like that movie :)

Thor

Thor probably wins.

Also wasn't MCU Asgardian "magic" just explained as being incredibly advanced tech/science rather than genuine magic?

It's been a LONG time since I've seen Ghost Rider, but didn't he just regenerate? If so, not seeing how Thor keeps him down.

GR.

@mazahs117: he instant regen any non magic damage yes. Even in human form as Blaze he was getting into instant death wrecksandnotbeing KOed at all.

Erm, dude. This battle is defintely spite. Thor beats him in every category by far, it's not even close

Ghost Rider is a skeleton. He would literally gets blown to pieces or decapitated by a hammer throw

Or he gets the Ultronbot treatment.

@loklegends: Fail of a post and use of gifs dude.

First Gif: Lots of context of the Vibranium Generator exploding due to the combine effort of Thor and Iron Man. Wow.

Second Gif: Not bad, but not great. Not even town busting as all he did was strike the ice shelf causing a domino effect with the ice breaking around.

Third Gif: That gif of a Cap America level Ultron bot is suppose to damage GR who shrugs off Anti Tank missils with no damage? A being made of fire?

Ghost Rider is a skeleton. He would literally gets blown to pieces or decapitated by a hammer throw

Actually Ghost Rider is stated and shown to be Immortal, and made of Hellfire with instant regen ability. But hey, way to try and lowball GR to be a Thor fanboy :)

I'll give it to Ghost Rider, honestly. I don't think Thor has anything that can really put the Rider down permanently, and I feel like if anything, Thor is capable of dying moreso than the Ghost Rider. Plus, if he pulls a Penance Stare, Thor is done.

@sirfizzwhizz

Could Hellfire transmute Mjolnir?

If its just advance tech Like Thor says it is. Maybe.

I have to say Ghost Rider sadly

Just want to bump this after a recent Movie Fights.

https://youtu.be/ZbZ1rnJWk3c?t=1h25m21s

"Im sorry, did you not see in the first Thor movie where we specifically establish they are not gods, but super powerful aliens mistaken for god by the ancient Norse."

- Zack Stenz, Movie Fights

So confirm, Thor has no magic.

IF thor was morals off or had knowledge he could just blast GR from afar.

But with morals on, without knowledge, he'll go close up, punch him, throw out a wacky punch line, look at him...and get one shotted by the Stare.

GR 8/10.

Writer of Thor > Your Post.

Problem is GR is immune to non supernatural attacks. The only attacks that ever work was the Devils sons supernatural powers, and Blackout's death touch.

GR has regen instantly all non magic base attacks, and even defied physics.

LOLOLOL

"Im sorry, did you not see in the first Thor movie where we specifically establish they are not gods, but super powerful aliens mistaken for god by the ancient Norse."

- Zack Stenz, Movie Fights

LOLOLOL

This Argument he made was response to the magical being of the Archangel Michael that Kevin Smith was arguing to fight magical being in MCU Thor in a Movie Fight Topic. Specifically stated that supernatural god would have to face supernatural god. To which Zack stated Thor is a super Alien not a God.

Thor stated in movie Magic is science not understood. Zack stated he is a alien, and not any way a supernatural being like a god. Show me one qoute now that states Thor uses Magic. You cannot, magic never existed in MCU till Dr Strange.

Seriously now...

That still is a NLF, he has not displayed any resistances to make him capable of tanking a thunder capable of one-shotting multiple leviathans.

Giving this to GR after a good battle because Kurse had no issue with Thor and GR is a much higher tier being than he is.

Thor's hammer is not a technological marvel, nor is his lightning created through machinery. It is through Odinforce. Odinforce is magic essentially so the writer is whacked out. You cant show one thing in the films and say that didn't happen. It did. Scarlet Witch is not a God and she still uses magic, Dr. Strange is not a god and he is the sorcerer supreme. Asgardians can use magic and always did, despite not actually being Gods. So to use the writer's idiotic words here as a defense means you know as little about the lore as he did when he wrote it. Sorry, Odin and Thor are magical beings. Loki was shown using magic repeatedly in the movies. It has nothing to do with being of God status or not. That is the worst argument ever.

The justification for this is that magic is the sudden manifestation of something. The writer wanted it to be science based, so it then turns into reality warping and the ability to control atoms to do tasks at will. It doesn't matter what it is, because Thor still casts lightning from a hammer, whether that be from Odinforce MAGIC, or through some type of matter manipulation. Odin casting He so be worthy on to Mjolnir was either reality warping or magic via Odinforce in the comics. Loki shape shifting and cloning himself, casting illusions was either magic via Odinforce combined with learning MAGIC from his mother, or reality warping atoms to do his bidding. It doesn't matter either way. This is the stupidest argument ever and Zach the writer is even more dumb for saying it wasn't magic. As if reality warping is any more or less nonsensical.

TLDR: Zach is a moron and the movie itself contradicts his words about it.

@asgardianbrony: You really showed no proof of anything, bu did ramble there for a bit. Its tech base on science not understood. Nothing supernatural about it. I showed two main sources for this.

Deal with it.

@sirfizzwhizz: Which is more likely here. Loki can cast illusions in a prison cell without any equipment or even clothing for that matter based on Asgardian Magic/Odinforce he learned from Odin and his mom. Or, he had hidden a technology box or some type of machinery inside his ass while being arrested and thrown in prison during Thor 2?

All this is, is nothing more than the writer not knowing what the hell he is talking about and being afraid to showcase super heroes on screen in a fantasy manner. Saying is it magic is bad, but showing illusion casting, giant rock monsters, elves older than the universe, dimensional barriers and a robot that can shoot energy blasts out of it's face is just fine.