Movie Thor vs Hogwarts

the OP states that morals are off.  mad-eye was teaching the killing curse to a bunch of kids. So, it seems to reason that everybody has easy access to learning that curse. no morals, means they would probably start the fight with that spell. Why bother with something less effective if you are out to kill? and that is what no morals implies.  Thor was basically at human levels when Odin stripped him of his gear. Odin thrusts out his hand "I strip you of your power!" and peices of gear come off as he says each line.  It seemed implied to me that every peice of his gear was boosting him.  Also, Thor, as the golden boy, was getting the best gear. The warriors three had their own gear, and loki had his as well. Lesser gear, to be sure, for less powerful characters.   Thor was getting the best of everything because he was Odin's favorite.  Longevity, strength, speed, everything it was implied, came from their tech.  That's why when Odin stripped him of all his gear Thor was mortal. He was restrained by a bunch of orderlies, subdued by a chem injection etc.. Sure, he still kicked ass as a human, because he's had the life experiences of thor, but he was not going to live like an immortal without the support of his culture.  frost Giants and Destroyer armor were nerfed for the movie. It happens. Hulk isn't hardly a fraction of himself in the movies. Destroying the destroyer in the movie is NOT the same thing as taking out the Destroyer in comic continuity.  I don't think Thor has anythign to fear from the creatrues that hogwarts could round up. Trolls, giants, dragons, none of them wield the same kind of physical power that Thor has at his disposal. He would really have to watch out for the more experienced magic users of the school itself.

@SlimJ87D: 

When did Loki do anything to Thor not amped? He had the spear. 

That's just it,Thor fought Loki with his hammer,being as how in the comics Thor is physically superior to his brother,so wit that being said Thor gets put down by a lethal spell ,and BTW movie Thor hasn't shown any resistance against direct Magic attacks.  
 
@isaac_clarke: 

Movie Thor is just an alien, which by itself as you mentioned could make spells not effective against him, especially death spells due to his longevity.  
He's literally thousands of years old by the time the movie kicks off, tough seeing a spell that normally puts down a bunch people that at best like 100's of years versus someone that may live indefinitely. 
 
Regardless Hogwarts won't get that chance if Thor actually bothers to use his full power strike, which would level the entire school killing most of them easily.   
 

The problem with this is that its theory,you assume it would just tickle him,you don't know that for sure.What does longevity have do with it?? Even if Thor was a billion years old,the point of the spell is that it kills.Thor can go on living forever,but if someone kills him then he's gone.That's the thing about Gods,they can live forever,but if someone directly attacks them and have the ability to put the down,they can still die.  He's levels he school full of children???  Not in character,but if bloodlust...  Wizards can erect magic force fields, whose to say they would get smashed? That's assuming he levels the school

No, i wouldn't say they become *human*, but it seemed to me that he was being stripped of his powers, which was intercut with images of the gear coming off, to imply that the gear was granting the power boosts.    There is no evidence that Asgardians are EXACTLY like people without their tech, but Thor was humbled enough so that he had to actually fight people to get into the base, rather than just plow through them, and he was taken out with a sedative, and subdued by orderlies, and held by shield and basically the entire portion of the movie from when Odin de-powers him to when he gets the hammer back would have been much different if he still had the power, or some level of super-human reserve of that power from earlier in the movie. Loki DID jack himself up... by taking Odin's spear.  About Odin caring for Thor, and giving him the best stuff.  What is your argument to the contrary? Odin went out of his way to talk up Mjolnir, how awesome it was, and then he gave it to Thor. Odin is king. His son is the prince. Does the King NOT give the prince the best? In a world where tech = power?  It seemed pretty clear to me that asgardians are roughly equivalent to mortals without their tech/magic.

And just one more thing on the killing curse.  All of the students may have the urge to cast it because morals were off but not all of them would be able to cast it.  According to mad eye you need to be a exceptionally powerful wizard to do it and the majority of the students are not.

And just one more thing on the killing curse.  All of the students may have the urge to cast it because morals were off but not all of them would be able to cast it.  According to mad eye you need to be a exceptionally powerful wizard to do it and the majority of the students are not.

that, times 1000.  

The teachers themselves are not warriors. 
And why wouldnt thor be able to block the spells with mjolnir just like he blocks the destroyers heat vision. Dumblebore can block the killing curse by levitating chunks of statue in the way so it should be the same idea.

The teachers themselves are not warriors. And why wouldnt thor be able to block the spells with mjolnir just like he blocks the destroyers heat vision. Dumblebore can block the killing curse by levitating chunks of statue in the way so it should be the same idea.

Thor calls down a huge thunderbolt and destroys the school. 
The summons winds to scatter the wreckage. 

giving it to Hogwarts, hundreds of magicians plus all of the creatures in the Forbidden forest, eventually the numbers gain will take him, especially with morals off, they all could use avada kedavra on him, ONE of the spells might not kill him, but i think hundreds of them will

@gavinification said:

The teachers themselves are not warriors. And why wouldnt thor be able to block the spells with mjolnir just like he blocks the destroyers heat vision. Dumblebore can block the killing curse by levitating chunks of statue in the way so it should be the same idea.

you dont have to be a warrior to defend yourself from being killed.

he lifted up cars and a destroyer with his tornado. why would a bunch of kids be able to function in a tornado better than a construct made by a god? i would conject he could lift all of the students or a significant portion and then drop them again and again or at least make the playing field more suitable for him.

Thor in the movie defeated Destroyer with ease?? when has he done so in the comics??  
@Deadcool: I say thor too buddy! 

giving it to Hogwarts, hundreds of magicians plus all of the creatures in the Forbidden forest, eventually the numbers gain will take him, especially with morals off, they all could use avada kedavra on him, ONE of the spells might not kill him, but i think hundreds of them will

when pushed to the edge, hogwarts would come out victorious. this scene, times 1000, again. over hundreds of students, a lot of teachers & many creatures against thor. 
  

Between the numbers, the huge variety of things they can do with magic(someone said something about lifting them with a Tornado and dropping them...they have a spell that kills all momentum('-' ) ), the homefield advantage, and the idea that Thor's tech may not even be able to work on the grounds since its not powered by magic, I give this to the wizards.

@Vortex13:  Don't compare Hagrid to Thor, also don't compare dragons to Thor...

But they all couldnt use it. Only a few of them would be capable regardless of the state of their morals. Its stated to be a very difficult spell to cast.  Almost no teacher has cast it so how would they be able to use it on thor? Spells take practice. And an hour is not practice enough.

@gavinification: most of the professors are skilled enough to probably know how to use it, they just choose not to teach it for obvious reasons, more skilled gifted students can probably learn it if they practice for the whole hour straight, heck Harry mastered the Imperius curse easily as well as taught all of the Dumbledore's Army members to use patronus charms despite it being an extremely hard spell, even if they all don't use avada kedavra, they all MUST know stupefy, the basic stun charm, even a dozen of those should take thor down

Umm, Thor? But I guess I'll keep listening.

@The Stegman: I doubt that the teachers barring snape, and magonagle would be skilled enough to use it. And snape is the only one that we know for sure that he can.

@Phylos: Most of the impressive stuff in that battle was done by members of the order who are the best of the best. There are also not that many of them. The other 95% of the hogwarts side are no where near as powerful. And Molly weasley is neither teacher nor student.

@Vortex13: They may not be incapable but they certainly wouldnt be as proficient at it as say a death eater.  The thing fake mad eye said applies. If all of them tried to do it for the first time they would barely give him a nose bleed. And thats assuming that all of the teachers are powerful enough which i doubt they are.

  

that, times 1000.  

@Vortex13: The order is not hogwarts.  It does take a serious amount of magic according to fake mad eye.

@Phylos said:

  

that, times 1000.  

Wouldn't hurt Thor.

Here is the problem, what stops  a moraless Thor from leveling the entire School, killing all of them, with a smash of his hammer as he did a good chunk of the Ice Giant's home. Or Throwing Tornadoes at them. Or having them levitate into the clouds only to have the majority die as they fall either due to not knowing a spell to prevent their death or lack flight? With his weather control displayed in the film alone he could give Hogwarts all sorts of hell twirling his hammer, easily disarming and killing his opponents by tossing his hammer at them dismembering them.
 
Honestly their best bet is a spell that as far as we know might not even be effective against him in the first place and most of them are incapable of actually performing. 
He's going to slaughter them without morals.

when pushed to the edge, hogwarts would come out victorious. this scene, times 1000, again. over hundreds of students, a lot of teachers & many creatures against thor. 
  

  

  
that will stop the student from falling to there death or being picked up. 

theres also spells to heal major injuries.

spells ti disarm.

spells to shield.

whatever he dishes out, it'll be countered.

@Phylos said:

when pushed to the edge, hogwarts would come out victorious. this scene, times 1000, again. over hundreds of students, a lot of teachers & many creatures against thor. 
  

  

if there could be a worst part of that movie it would be the sheer ridivulousness of belatrix lestange being killed by a stay at home mother. she was practically voldemorts second in command and some lady makes her explode.

@isaac_clarke said:

@Phylos said:

  

that, times 1000.  

Wouldn't hurt Thor.

from one person, no. from many others, it'll leave it mark. a god a lightning & thunder vs. a sufficient amount of people who can bend magic around them to there liking & extent.

@Phylos said:

@isaac_clarke said:

@Phylos said:

  

that, times 1000.  

Wouldn't hurt Thor.

from one person, no. from many others, it'll leave it mark. a god a lightning & thunder vs. a sufficient amount of people who can bend magic around them to there liking & extent.

One or 500, fire isn't going to be hurting Thor. The guy just getting his powers was rejuvenated by Mjolnir calling a thunderbolt down on him. 
What can they possibly do to avoid Thor literally MURDERING them in mass numbers as the ground beneath them crumbles, the wind blows them away off the ground, the works. 
A gun would kill most of the potter cast, your putting them up against a Viking Thunder God who spends the vast majority of this thousands of years of life killing monsters and giants in huge numbers. 
 
Once the shield was down the students went down like nothing for the most part. 
 
  

   Honestly it's not like numbers is any disadvantage to Thor when he can kill them in grand attacks.

thanks for showing me that he had a team with him...other asgardian deities.

  
that will stop the student from falling to there death or being picked up. 

theres also spells to heal major injuries.

spells ti disarm.

spells to shield.

 

whatever he dishes out, it'll be countered.

@Blood_guts said:

@Phylos said:

when pushed to the edge, hogwarts would come out victorious. this scene, times 1000, again. over hundreds of students, a lot of teachers & many creatures against thor. 
  

  

if there could be a worst part of that movie it would be the sheer ridivulousness of belatrix lestange being killed by a stay at home mother. she was practically voldemorts second in command and some lady makes her explode.

she watched her daughter get attacked. if you were a parent (or if you are now) & you seen your child get hurt or attacked by someone in front of you, rest assure something will take over you & you'll defend them with everything you've got. which in this case, was enough to shatter bellatrix.

@Phylos said:

thanks for showing me that he had a team with him...other asgardian deities.

So your ignoring the part is when his "team" is running for their lives he is still single handily slaughtering the giants? The part when he noticed they were in trouble he immediately caves the entire area in with a single strike, speeds his way over to one shot the giant monster his "team" was fighting?  What a joke.

@Phylos said:

@Blood_guts said:

@Phylos said:

when pushed to the edge, hogwarts would come out victorious. this scene, times 1000, again. over hundreds of students, a lot of teachers & many creatures against thor. 
  

  

if there could be a worst part of that movie it would be the sheer ridivulousness of belatrix lestange being killed by a stay at home mother. she was practically voldemorts second in command and some lady makes her explode.

she watched her daughter get attacked. if you were a parent (or if you are now) & you seen your child get hurt or attacked by someone in front of you, rest assure something will take over you & you'll defend them with everything you've got. which in this case, was enough to shatter bellatrix.

if MY daughter was attacked by an evil witch i would probably try to fight and then die. as far as im aware having children doesnt give super powers even if you want them to