Most powerful X-Men VS most powerful Avengers

The X-(wo)men(only mutants here and regular members): Professor X/Magneto/Jean Grey(basic Phoenix against Firelord only & Teen Jean's feats allowed)/Iceman/Polaris/Storm/Rogue/Rachel Summers(PF echo & Mother Askani allowed)/Cable(full powered)/X-Man/Legion(in control)/Northstar/Magik(Darkchylde)/Hope Summers/Namor/Vulcan

The Avengers: Hulk/Thor/Iron Man/Spectrum(Monica Rambeau)/Vision/Scarlet Witch(no HoM)/Quicksilver/Binary(Carol Danvers)/Genis-Vell(not insane)/Dr Strange(with the Eyes of Agammotho)/Wonder Man/Sersi/Sentry(full control)/Moondragon/Mantis/Blue marvel/Nova(Richard Rider)/Hyperion/Quasar

No prep for all the characters. Random encounter in New York city with no people. BFR allowed and there are all bloodlusted now!

NB: If you have some suggestions for missing powerful heroes in each team tell me like that I can add them to the list(I can't remember all their cast I did this for fun and at this moment so sorry and thanks for understanding) but don't remember ONLY the powerful ones not Captain America or Cyclops for request, please.

TP win for the X-Men. GG.

Fights like this are often unanswerable as there are waaaay too many variables. But TP is the champ here.

For most powerful X-men you can add Juggernaut and Vulcan

Jug is not a mutant and Vulcan is an enemy.

@fridric: He haven’t said mutants,he said «most powerful X-men » and Juggernaut was on the recent X-men in Uncanny X-men and Vulcan was an X-men’s member.And by the way if those who are enemy aren’t counted then Sentry shouldn’t count given that in his recent solo run he was opposed to the Avengers

@geekryan: Most of the Avengers are resistant to telepathy and Sersi, Strange and Sentry are all high tier telepathy as well.

@americanspeeddemon: Resistant doesn’t mean immune.

That’s 8 of the most powerful telepaths against some Avengers with basic resistances and 3 inferior telepaths.

Strange solos.

@geekryan: Hulk, Thor, Iron Man and Scarlet Witch have top tier resistance. Dr. Strange and Sersi are at least on par with the telepathy on the X men's team and probably superior to most. Sentry is potentially the most powerful telepathy here but doesn't have consistent control.

Strange is soloing X-man, Legion, Magik and Hope?

@chiq: if he is not weakened and is operating at his non-amped best? Yes, he is soloing.

Ok. Not a strange expert. I'll just have to see what others say.

It's just that those 4 are pretty darn powerful, if they're operating at their best as well.

(One of the most powerful Hell Lords, 2 universal level reality warpers not sure about Nate though, and a mutant who can mimic all the mutant powers on the field Including the Avengers mutants) He would also have one the most powerful anti magic weapons in marvel to go up against.

@americanspeeddemon: All of the people you named have had their minds attacked or taken control of by the X-Men telepaths.

Dr Strange and Sersi are definitely not on the level of people like X-Man and Legion...

@americanspeeddemon: the most powerful telepath here is Nate Grey.Iron Man without prep isn’t resistant to telepathy.

@geekryan: Strange is probably on par. He has tped Galactus, defeated Moondragon with the mind gem and umar in TP battles and has resisted tp from the infinity gauntlet, the inbetweener and Dormammu in his own realm.

Either the X Men telepaths fry everyone’s minds by working together, or Scarlet Witch Solos

Can't Hope counter her?

Well, it's me who gave the rules and I forgot to add mutant X-members only. Also, Vulcan is not in the same situation of Magneto for citing only one case. Legion is in here because he's not really bad but crazy. So, that's why I took him in the list. It was difficult to choose between the X-Men because most of them(the more powerful) have the same power. Should I take only one mutant with TK/TP and ignore the rest?

Don't forget to advise me for Avengers' members because there are a lot of them. Thanks!

@chiq: No Scarlet Witch’s powers are magic as stated in the Scarlet Witch solo series so Wanda can wish away all of the X Men team

Franklin richards stomps.

@emmafrostxmen: but Hope has already mimic Wanda powers in AvX

@emmafrostxmen: she's not a mutant anymore?

I updated the list for Avengers and I authorized Vulcan/Phoenix Jean(her level against Firelord)/Rachel with PF echo because of high Energy manipulators in the Avengers side. Also they are bloodlusted for this battle.

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@chiq: no she’s not

@fridric: I have more knowledge on the X-men than on the Avengers but for Avengers’ member you could add Captain Universe

X Men destroy them.

TP is key.

I'm under the impression that this is Current Strange, not Classic. Unless Current did all of these things recently too?

Basically this.

But most likely the X-Men Win.

@fridric: put unstoppable Colossus in the X-Men side.

Also X-Men will win they have more versatile hitters and more powerful telepaths.

Legion blinks while Vulcan drains the Avengers of all their energy.

I really don't see full powered Legion to be stronger than Doctor Strange

Vulcan draining Thor, I doubt it.

Full powered Legion rebooted reality....

VoId sOLos

A lot of people here are irrelevant. In the end it's a fight between the most powerful members of each team.

Legion vs Strange. As much as i love Strange, Legion is a bigger threat. He beats Strange and everyone else from both teams.

What version o X-Man is here? Shaman, Lifeseed?
Sentry, if Void is allowed can be a big problem.

Taking Strange and Legion out of the fight, and either X-Men win by TP or Sentry/Thor/Quasar/Wanda/Genis will beat them with X-Man carrying his team but losing IMO....

This one is tough. The difference makers IMO: Legion, Genis-Vell, Strange, and Sentry (if Void included). My money would be on Avengers.

x-men

TP kills

and btw, popping many people's bubble here, X-Man is the strongest telepath present here (not counting reality warpers like full powered legion or so, they won't even come under telepathy area I guess)

and most of the members of both the teams are irrelevant... like .. what are people like storm, namor, ironman, wonder man, mantis etc. are even doing in a fight between people like in control legion, x-man, basic phoenix jean, dr. strange, genis vell, full powered sentry etc.? are they there for any extra curriculum activity?

You forgot XORN

Also x-man, hope, phoenix and magneto would mop that whole squad.

You do realize Phoenix is here, don’t you?

The X-(wo)men(only mutants here and regular members): Professor X/Magneto/Jean Grey(basic Phoenix against Firelord only & Teen Jean's feats allowed)/Iceman/Polaris/Storm/Rogue/Rachel Summers(PF echo & Mother Askani allowed)/Cable(full powered)/X-Man/Legion(in control)/Northstar/Magik(Darkchylde)/Hope Summers/Namor/Vulcan

all in all it's between strange and legion and tbh i don't see legion beating classic and current strange

TP stomp

Hulk and strange do it by themselves. Professor X even stated he can't and doesn't like trying to control hulks mind because of the voices and many different personalities are to hard to control.

Hulk isn't a factor due to Phoenix, Legion ,X-man Hope etc they can blink and kill the Hulk instantly, Strange will get drained by Vulcan who drained Magus of the majority of his magical energy instantly as Vulcan is so underrated to what he can do to the Avengers passively or offensively.

X-Men.

haven't the avengers the possibility of rune king thor?

Thor literally has the Odin Force and Power Cosmic.....he blink stomps nearly every member of the X-Men and whoever’s left is shit stomped by the combo of Thor, Dr. Strange, Captain Universe, Sentry, Genis-Vell, Hulk and Scarlet Witch.