DBS versions who will win?
Moro vs Jiren vs Broly
Moro is stronger than both individually but realistically he'll try to take on both to be cocky then die first.
LB Jiren is above LSSJ Broly.
Might change depending on the next chapter though.
Broly isn't anywhere near Beerus regardless of anime or manga scaling. Moro on the other hand can possibly rival or surpass him.
Anime: Jiren >> Moro >>>> Broly
Manga: Jiren = Moro >> Broly, but a very strong case can be made for Moro being better than Jiren here.
Moro's drain is easily countered by Jiren's sheer speed. Moro's Forced Spirit Fission is useless against a fighter who did not absorb others to gain power, and Jiren's power was self-gained. If Moro wins, it's definitely not because of hax. He wins on the basis of being more powerful, and his regenerative abilities would ensure that he wins the war of attrition, while Jiren would end up being severely weakened if he sustained considerable damage.
I wouldn't go as far and say any of them are stronger than Beerus as Beerus can casually one shot SSB Vegeta (Pre-ToP) and he hasn't released his full power.
I wouldn't go as far and say any of them are stronger than Beerus as Beerus can casually one shot SSB Vegeta (Pre-ToP) and he hasn't released his full power.
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Broly
Moro
Ntm how Moro dominated UI Goku who was stronger than Beerus
So many proof to suggest they are stronger than Beerus and you say that claiming they are stronger than him is going too far? Lol.
@omhig: Lol all those are hypotheticals.
Beerus can casually one shot SSB Vegeta (Pre-ToP)
A feat any of these 3 can easily replicate.
I wouldn't go as far and say any of them are stronger than Beerus as Beerus can casually one shot SSB Vegeta (Pre-ToP) and he hasn't released his full power.
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Broly
Moro
Ntm how Moro dominated UI Goku who was stronger than Beerus
So many proof to suggest they are stronger than Beerus and you say that claiming they are stronger than him is going too far? Lol.
Sorry but Goku has never seen Beerus go all out, Beerus has only used up to 10% of his power
Beerus can casually one shot SSB Vegeta (Pre-ToP)
A feat any of these 3 can easily replicate.
None of them as casually as Beerus did.
Moro is stronger than both individually but realistically he'll try to take on both to be cocky then die first.
LB Jiren is above LSSJ Broly.
Might change depending on the next chapter though.
Im sorry but NO
Jiren is said to be stronger than GODS of destruction
Broly is said to be stronger than the strongest God of destruction Beerus
Moro couldnt even beat a Kai who is weaker than Beerus, Moro 73 should be Suppressed Jiren Level
Also I doubt Jiren and Broly are stronger we havent even seen beerus use more than 10% of his power
Beerus can casually one shot SSB Vegeta (Pre-ToP)
A feat any of these 3 can easily replicate.
None of them as casually as Beerus did.
Um, yes they can lol.
@omhig: The quotes on Jiren being the being that GoDs cannot defeat, does not prove that Jiren is necessarily above them. It at the very least shows that Jiren is on that level, because it does not necessarily prove that Jiren can defeat them either. They could have been equals, which still does not detract the source that GoDs cannot beat him.
The twitter source about Broly shows that its a speculation and confirmation. As for Goku, he hasn't even fought Beerus at 100% before, how is he supposed to know? You at at most argue that Broly is better than the suppressed Beerus that Goku fought at BoG, but then again anyone and their mother is better than that suppressed Beerus at that point.
No one's disputing that MUI Goku > Beerus. But Beerus speculating that UI Omen Goku might be stronger than him does not confirm that Goku is actually stronger than Beerus. And just because Moro said that he had the power to transcend gods does not mean that he actually had the power to do so. Especially since he had to outlast Goku in order to beat him, not through superior power. That being said I do agree that Moro can be potentially above Beerus, but not for the sources you gave about Moro.
@omhig: That's a mistranslation for the first scan.
Goku was talking about the Broly who recovered all of his strength and gained a zenkai after the Broly vs Gogeta Fight. Goku does not know how strong Beerus is.
It's actually referencing MUI perhaps surpassing Beerus, not Omen. Nothing proves Moro > Top MUI and Beerus has UI himself.
Moro doesn't know jack about the Gods of Destruction. He was talking about the Kaioshins.
All are stronger than Beerus but it goes like this:
3. Broly
2. Jiren
1. Moro
Broly isnt stronger than beerus lol
All are stronger than Beerus but it goes like this:
3. Broly
2. Jiren
1. Moro
Broly isnt stronger than beerus lol
Ok?
Bump cause I am bored
Moro stomps them both
Goku confirms Moro is stronger than Broly and Jiren both, and that was just Moro 73 alone not even Angel Moro
And yes Goku fought Broly in the Manga
And Broly was confirmed above Jiren numerous times
So in conclusion
1. Moro
2. Broly
3. Jiren
Jiren>=Broly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Moro
Moro is fodder to either of them he is just hype going only on baseless statments, feats wise he got trashed by MUI Goku and SSBE Vegeta pre 73, even in angel form he cant contain it and will still lose to Jiren or Broly anyway, he's a joke.
@iron_hand_: no way beerus is above gogeta
@calljhonthanapp: his way too op having UI and Hakai at his disposal, he can outlast Gogeta or MUI for that matter with ease, with no time limit Gogeta has a chance but most likely Beerus Hax(Energy Cancel /Hakai/UI), experience and knowledge will be too much.
Doesn't Moro like Absorb Energy and Power ? I thought that's what he was capable of in the Manga ? If so, how do Jiren or Broly beat him ? Can't he just keep absorbing their Power until they give out or does Moro have a Cap to how much he can Absorb or Drain ?
I think Moro would make a hell of a Marvel Character. An Energy Manipulator who could possibly drain out someone like Galactus.
@iron_hand_: it was shown that you beat Ui with enough power and speed like with Goku vs jiren and Moro or with beerus himself in the battle of Gods same go for Hakai
Doesn't Moro like Absorb Energy and Power ? I thought that's what he was capable of in the Manga ? If so, how do Jiren or Broly beat him ? Can't he just keep absorbing their Power until they give out or does Moro have a Cap to how much he can Absorb or Drain ?
I think Moro would make a hell of a Marvel Character. An Energy Manipulator who could possibly drain out someone like Galactus.
Yes but it depends on which Moro we're talking about. At his weakest a SSB level character is enough to beat him. At his strongest he stomps Jiren and Broly at the same time.
Doesn't Moro like Absorb Energy and Power ? I thought that's what he was capable of in the Manga ? If so, how do Jiren or Broly beat him ? Can't he just keep absorbing their Power until they give out or does Moro have a Cap to how much he can Absorb or Drain ?
I think Moro would make a hell of a Marvel Character. An Energy Manipulator who could possibly drain out someone like Galactus.
Yes but it depends on which Moro we're talking about. At his weakest a SSB level character is enough to beat him. At his strongest he stomps Jiren and Broly at the same time.
Well how long does it take him to Absorb Energy or Power ? I mean depending on how fast it is or how far away he could absorb energy, Moro might be able to amp himself up quickly against a foe who is a lot stronger than he is before they lash out against him in a weaker state.
Doesn't Moro like Absorb Energy and Power ? I thought that's what he was capable of in the Manga ? If so, how do Jiren or Broly beat him ? Can't he just keep absorbing their Power until they give out or does Moro have a Cap to how much he can Absorb or Drain ?
I think Moro would make a hell of a Marvel Character. An Energy Manipulator who could possibly drain out someone like Galactus.
Yes but it depends on which Moro we're talking about. At his weakest a SSB level character is enough to beat him. At his strongest he stomps Jiren and Broly at the same time.
Well how long does it take him to Absorb Energy or Power ? I mean depending on how fast it is or how far away he could absorb energy, Moro might be able to amp himself up quickly against a foe who is a lot stronger than he is before they lash out against him in a weaker state.
UI Goku was able to "dodge" his energy absorption and MUI Goku just outright blitzed and stomped him.
@calljhonthanapp: his true power should rival or surpass Gogeta, the statements that were made on Beerus till now comparing him to Broly or Vegito where base on his known power as he has yet shown his full capabilities in a long dried out fight.
Doesn't Moro like Absorb Energy and Power ? I thought that's what he was capable of in the Manga ? If so, how do Jiren or Broly beat him ? Can't he just keep absorbing their Power until they give out or does Moro have a Cap to how much he can Absorb or Drain ?
I think Moro would make a hell of a Marvel Character. An Energy Manipulator who could possibly drain out someone like Galactus.
Yes but it depends on which Moro we're talking about. At his weakest a SSB level character is enough to beat him. At his strongest he stomps Jiren and Broly at the same time.
Well how long does it take him to Absorb Energy or Power ? I mean depending on how fast it is or how far away he could absorb energy, Moro might be able to amp himself up quickly against a foe who is a lot stronger than he is before they lash out against him in a weaker state.
UI Goku was able to "dodge" his energy absorption and MUI Goku just outright blitzed and stomped him.
So Moro's Energy Absorption is a Directed Attack ? He can not just drain Energy or Power from someone who is around him ? That's weird. You would think that if Moro even in a weakened state was Planet level that is ability to absorb Energy would cover more of an Area than just being a Directed Attack. Could be Plot Device for the Story too though.
@iron_hand_: the think is unlike broly there nothing point to Vegito being beerus equal is wrong
Doesn't Moro like Absorb Energy and Power ? I thought that's what he was capable of in the Manga ? If so, how do Jiren or Broly beat him ? Can't he just keep absorbing their Power until they give out or does Moro have a Cap to how much he can Absorb or Drain ?
I think Moro would make a hell of a Marvel Character. An Energy Manipulator who could possibly drain out someone like Galactus.
Yes but it depends on which Moro we're talking about. At his weakest a SSB level character is enough to beat him. At his strongest he stomps Jiren and Broly at the same time.
Well how long does it take him to Absorb Energy or Power ? I mean depending on how fast it is or how far away he could absorb energy, Moro might be able to amp himself up quickly against a foe who is a lot stronger than he is before they lash out against him in a weaker state.
UI Goku was able to "dodge" his energy absorption and MUI Goku just outright blitzed and stomped him.
So Moro's Energy Absorption is a Directed Attack ? He can not just drain Energy or Power from someone who is around him ? That's weird. You would think that if Moro even in a weakened state was Planet level that is ability to absorb Energy would cover more of an Area than just being a Directed Attack. Could be Plot Device for the Story too though.
Well, yes and no? I think he can use it as an AOE.
Jiren>=Broly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Moro
Moro is fodder to either of them he is just hype going only on baseless statments, feats wise he got trashed by MUI Goku and SSBE Vegeta pre 73, even in angel form he cant contain it and will still lose to Jiren or Broly anyway, he's a joke.
MUI Goku was far stronger even in the Moro arc (much less now) than he was in the ToP. SSBE Vegeta only beat Moro through a specific technique, Moro was overpowering him otherwise. He wouldn't need the angel form as he was already stated to be stronger than either two in just his normal 73 form, with his angel form he trashes them long before he reaches his limit and even if he does he'll probably catch them and drain their energy considering he did it to the far stronger MUI Goku.
Don't forget that Goku and Vegeta did have two months to prep for Moro also they didnt know anything about his ability only after lossing to him a couple of times like
With him etting ki : they learn about it only after they losst to him
His illusion : they learn about it only after they losst to him for the second time
They also get the Techniques to beat him like Ui and FSF
Broly and jiren wont have any of this and unlike both of them Moro was shown that he can take on people way stronger than him and win, not only this but he was shown to be way smarter than them while jiren is "hmm I well punch harder" or broly "AAAAAAAAAaaaaa"
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