Moro Arc UI Omen Goku vs Current SSB Goku

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Rules

  • UI won't run out of stamina
  • SSB Goku has permanent UI and can use it anytime
  • Bloodlusted
  • Takes place on an indestructible planet
  • Win by death or K.O., no BFR
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Knew this thread was coming.

Omen is faster and stronger than SSBE Vegeta by a large amount.

Omen takes it easily.

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Ui Goku effortlessly, no evidence that Goku got such a massive jump in power at all.

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Current Blue can use UI elements so this is like base Goku (Omen) vs Goku Blue.

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@morningstar999: @panda_emperorix: I don't think it's a stomp. SSB is not only stronger than last time from training but also has UI now and while it's not as refined as the real thing it's still good help for him.

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#8  Edited By Morningstar999

@takenstew22: He can use the technique for sure, while in SSB. But I don't remember it amping his power while in that form.

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@takenstew22: He can use the technique for sure, while in SSB. But I don't remember it amping his power while in that form.

He got an amp from training so...

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@morningstar999: He never said it did. He trained for multiple months there's no doubt he's stronger.

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#11  Edited By Morningstar999

@takenstew22: I know...but the difference between SSB and UI(even if only sign), is abnormous. There is no evidence that he got that much stronger in such a short time.

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@morningstar999: @panda_emperorix: I don't think it's a stomp. SSB is not only stronger than last time from training but also has UI now and while it's not as refined as the real thing it's still good help for him.

Having UI doesn't mean much when he can't use it consistently.

Eventually it's going to drop as we've seen and he's going to get hit.

He will manage to dodge for a bit though.

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@kingkilla: Can you quantify how much stronger he is?

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@takenstew22 said:

@morningstar999: @panda_emperorix: I don't think it's a stomp. SSB is not only stronger than last time from training but also has UI now and while it's not as refined as the real thing it's still good help for him.

Having UI doesn't mean much when he can't use it consistently.

Eventually it's going to drop as we've seen and he's going to get hit.

He will manage to dodge for a bit though.

Maybe I can make it so Goku can use UI permanently in SSB for this?

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Just to put the difference of power in perspective, SSBE Vegeta did absolutely nothing to Prime Moro. Even after getting a massive boost from spirit training. This boost was confirmed by Piccolo to be substantial, but it still wasn't enough to do anything to Moro.

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Goku was able to contest with Prime Moro and damage him while getting the better of him in speed. Downside was just the stamina issue.

We can rightly say that this is a tier above Vegeta, so not only does current SSB need proof that he surpassed blue level, but also spirit boosted SSBE AND Prime Moro. Which I highly doubt he has done up to this point.

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@panda_emperorix said:
@takenstew22 said:

@morningstar999: @panda_emperorix: I don't think it's a stomp. SSB is not only stronger than last time from training but also has UI now and while it's not as refined as the real thing it's still good help for him.

Having UI doesn't mean much when he can't use it consistently.

Eventually it's going to drop as we've seen and he's going to get hit.

He will manage to dodge for a bit though.

Maybe I can make it so Goku can use UI permanently in SSB for this?

You can, but Omen would still outstat him by a large amount.

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UI Omen Goku due to better stats.

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@the_hajduk: UI Omen isn’t the same as base with UI. It’s a partial step towards the full UI form and has more raw power than Blue.

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Gonna go with UI Omen Goku

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