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Poll: More powerful strike? MCU Thor vs DCEU Superman (90 votes)

Thor 43%
Superman 41%
About even 16%
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MCU Thor vs Malekith

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DCEU Superman vs Zod

I'm looking for:

  • Which required more power/energy/force
  • Which impressed you more and why
  • Feats, gifs, scans or evidence to support your answer please
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#51 Posted by Chronicplane (9366 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

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#52 Posted by TheSpartanB345T (4402 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor swung his arm.

Superman and Zod crashed into each while flying at a high rate of speed.

It seems to me that it took a lot more effort for Clark and Zod to do their thing, and the results are at best nearly even.

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#53 Posted by The_Hajduk (6472 posts) - - Show Bio

@webinyoureye11 said:

Thor shattered the ground up until the building nearby

Superman zod clearly created more than 4000+ psi upto 20+ meters from the point of the collision.

Shattering ground which is mostly made of soils isn't impressive.

That's a good point. My only point of contention is that Superman and Zod combined their force to create that, but Thor's feat was all Thor.

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#54 Posted by omriamar (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

@webinyoureye11: in that pic yes thor lock more impressive but overall it's sups all day everyday with a lot more feats

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#55 Edited by deactivated-59d29c479f1ca (4066 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_hajduk said:

That's a good point. My only point of contention is that Superman and Zod combined their force to create that, but Thor's feat was all Thor.

Thor shattered something that can withstand 351.5348 kg/cm2 (max) but they shattered something that can with 1406.1392 kg/cm2.

Even if we take half the force which is 703.0696 kg/cm2.

Which is twice the force Thor generated .

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#56 Edited by Cergic (1224 posts) - - Show Bio

@tj849: His combat scenes are way cooler, without a doubt.

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#57 Posted by FlashingSabre (3867 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor just has far better striking feats, even though Supes should logically be stronger.

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#58 Posted by Thorthunder98 (6876 posts) - - Show Bio

lol more calcs being thrown around as fact by an obviously credible and unbiased source...

Anyways, Supes and Zod both still had a run up to add momentum and generate more force on their impact, just as how Flash has a run up and can hit harder than stationary. Supes hasn't generated that amount of force an made that big of a shockwave from a stationary point in any of his feats, the only other time a shockwave on that level was made was at the start of their fight where once again Supes and Zod bullrushed each other so again it's only half down to supes and he still had a run up.

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#59 Posted by King_Majestros (1929 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor has the most powerful strike here, by a landslide.

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#60 Posted by Theanalyser (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

@webinyoureye11 said:

Thor shattered the ground up until the building nearby

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Superman zod clearly created more than 4000+ psi upto 20+ meters from the point of the collision.

Shattering ground which is mostly made of soils isn't impressive.

Supermans punches aren't meant to be that strong anyway, the fact superman is extremely durable is one of the only reasons he always wins the fights that he does, a full power strike from mjlonir far outclasses any striking ability superman has (excluding the fact that he can blitz). We've seen thor do this on multiple occasions, the surface area affected is larger, and therefore more energy can be transferred between thor and the target, it requires more force and a higher striking ability.

Of course in terms of feats superman is stronger, but we are talking about striking ability, superman punching zod into the building and him hitting the floor (concrete) with a certain force does not correlate to raw striking ability especially if the target (body) was already accelerated under these circumstances (nice lowball though)

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#61 Posted by Theanalyser (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

@beyonder97 said:

Here is a better one

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Yeah this is closer to the AoE of Thor's attack. I think based solely off the scans OP showed Thor looks stronger, but if you take all of Supes's feats he should be stronger than Thor by a very good margin. Not to underestimate Thor, I know he gets a lot of shit on this site, but I think Superman could definitely replicate the feat OP showed if he tried.

Well you see there is a small problem with this, since superman can travel faster than thor are we going to include blitzing as a form of striking ability? If so then thor throwing mjolnir should also count as a striking ability, but then the argument becomes pointless because you can't compare superman blitzing to any of thors main attack set. If both thor and superman accelerate to each other and collide assuming they are both moving then a certain amount of force would be exerted on both of them, that counts as a feat of durability and not purely a striking ability

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#62 Posted by WastelandMan (8818 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman and Zod's was caused by them crashing into each other while Thor's was caused by striking Malekith.

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#63 Posted by deactivated-5a84a212043e5 (2790 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks about the same to me

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#64 Posted by webinyoureye11 (5784 posts) - - Show Bio

So what I'm getting is that the skyscraper is more durable than the ground beneath Thor, but the ground didn't break in the nearby building, yet the pressure wave still shattered the glass, and I'm not sure if Supes shattered glass the same distance as Thor. Then again it is unclear for both of the gifs how far the range of the pressure wave is

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#65 Posted by BabyDarkseid (1907 posts) - - Show Bio

supes

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#66 Edited by Mutant1230 (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman had more instant damage, Thor was more widespread.

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#67 Posted by Superhero24 (4766 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor's attack was all him and had no extra momentum behind it. Thor's shockwave also traveled further than Supes and Zods. Destroying mostly glass ins't as impressive as breaking the ground.

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#68 Edited by MarvelandDCfan24 (7668 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman as far better striking feats than Thor it's not really debatable

CW Arrow Is stronger than both combined though

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#69 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously Thor's feat for the following reasons.

  1. It was all Thor and he didnt have any extra momentum, unlike the superman feat which was a combined feat between supes and Zod and was accomplished with momentum.
  2. Thor's shockwave was much larger and tore up the ground farther.

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#70 Posted by APEX_pretador (21308 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

Superman vs Zod was a shared feat

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#71 Edited by Batman242 (12368 posts) - - Show Bio

The overpressure produced by Clark and Zod was much stronger than Thor's, although his went much wider.

Think about it like this; If anybody would've it been 30 feet away from Thor's, the ears would've been ruptured. If anybody were in the vicinity of Clark's and Zod's, they'd be blown to smithereens.

I'm more impressed by Thor's since it was mostly him.

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#72 Edited by Mrnoital (8139 posts) - - Show Bio

I like how people are talking like Thors attack would do more damage if he got more momentum like superman did

when has that ever happened?

every time he throws his hammer it does less damage than either attack in the op, same when he flies with it at something

momentum doesn't help Thor, him taking his time, calling lightning, and attacking in slo-mo is his version of building up momentum

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#73 Posted by Beyonder97 (1041 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman as far better striking feats than Thor it's not really debatable

CW Arrow Is stronger than both combined though

Dceu DOOMSDAY would stomp CW Arrow tho unless he got kryptonite

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#74 Posted by FlakeKing (469 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins. Thor's didn't seem impressive.

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#75 Posted by deactivated-59d29c479f1ca (4066 posts) - - Show Bio

Supermans punches aren't meant to be that strong anyway,

Based on ???

the fact superman is extremely durable is one of the only reasons

he always wins the fights that he does,

Say that to zod who got neck snapped.

a full power strike from mjlonir far outclasses any striking ability superman has

Irrelevant to topic.

(excluding the fact that he can blitz).

How is this relevant here ???

We've seen thor do this on multiple occasions,

This is the only occasion where he created shockwave without supercharging.

the surface area affected is larger,

It's almost same size what superman and zod did only difference is Thor did it on 5-6 times weaker concrete than what superman and zod did in terms of psi.

and therefore more energy can be transferred between thor and the target, it requires more force and a higher striking ability.

Thor shattered something that can withstand 351.5348 kg/cm2 (max) but they shattered something that can with 1406.1392 kg/cm2.

Even if we taking half value, each Kryptonian created 703.0696 kg/cm2 which is still twice the value of Thor did.

Of course in terms of feats superman is stronger,

Definitely

but we are talking about striking ability,

Kryptonian punch > Thor's non-supercharged strike.

superman punching zod into the building and him hitting the floor (concrete) with a certain force does not correlate to raw striking ability especially

None of them touched the concrete ( nice try ).

if the target (body) was already accelerated under these circumstances (nice lowball though)

They weren't even supersonic to consider that acceleration as a factor.

Provide proper proof to prove ur speculation if ur replying me.

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#76 Edited by Theanalyser (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

@theanalyser said:

Supermans punches aren't meant to be that strong anyway,

Based on ???

the fact superman is extremely durable is one of the only reasons

he always wins the fights that he does,

Say that to zod who got neck snapped.

a full power strike from mjlonir far outclasses any striking ability superman has

Irrelevant to topic.

(excluding the fact that he can blitz).

How is this relevant here ???

We've seen thor do this on multiple occasions,

This is the only occasion where he created shockwave without supercharging.

the surface area affected is larger,

It's almost same size what superman and zod did only difference is Thor did it on 5-6 times weaker concrete than what superman and zod did in terms of psi.

and therefore more energy can be transferred between thor and the target, it requires more force and a higher striking ability.

Thor shattered something that can withstand 351.5348 kg/cm2 (max) but they shattered something that can with 1406.1392 kg/cm2.

Even if we taking half value, each Kryptonian created 703.0696 kg/cm2 which is still twice the value of Thor did.

Of course in terms of feats superman is stronger,

Definitely

but we are talking about striking ability,

Kryptonian punch > Thor's non-supercharged strike.

superman punching zod into the building and him hitting the floor (concrete) with a certain force does not correlate to raw striking ability especially

None of them touched the concrete ( nice try ).

if the target (body) was already accelerated under these circumstances (nice lowball though)

They weren't even supersonic to consider that acceleration as a factor.

Provide proper proof to prove ur speculation if ur replying me.

You didn't get it did you?

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#77 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty good durability feat for malekith also

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#78 Posted by dcuwins (348 posts) - - Show Bio

SUPERMAN EASILY.

he was striking zod, not the skyscraper.

PER THE OFFICIAL MOS NOVEL

PG 297

A TWO-HUNDRED FOOT TALL CONSTRUCTION CRANE WAS UPROOTED BY THE TREMORS. (THE BLOWS BETWEEN ZOD AND SUPERMAN)

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#79 Posted by ILostTheKey (993 posts) - - Show Bio

Supe's is definitely the harder hitter

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#80 Posted by dcuwins (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@superhero24:

SUP WITH A CASUAL BACKHAND SHATTERED KRYTP METAL .THAT METAL NO SELLED EVERYTHING EARTHLY.

PER THE OFFICIAL MOS NOVEL

PG 297

A TWO-HUNDRED FOOT TALL CONSTRUCTION CRANE WAS UPROOTED BY THE TREMORS. (THE BLOWS BETWEEN ZOD AND SUPERMAN)

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Tower cranes come in many styles, such as hammerhead, flat-top, self-erecting or luffing jib configurations and have a 100 to 800 ton meter rating.

THOR IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY IN THE SAME LEAGUE. SUP AND ZOD WRECKED METROPOLIS. THOR AND HULK DIDNT WRECK THE SHIELD SHIP . THOR AND VISION DIDN'T EVEN WRECK A FLOOR .

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#81 Posted by dcuwins (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@theanalyser:

PER THE OFFICIAL MOS NOVEL

PG 297

A TWO-HUNDRED FOOT TALL CONSTRUCTION CRANE WAS UPROOTED BY THE TREMORS. (THE BLOWS BETWEEN ZOD AND SUPERMAN)

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ONE STRIKE DERAILS A FAST MOVING TRAIN.

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#82 Posted by deactivated-5a89ca5697052 (8063 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark.

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#83 Edited by icec0ld (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

This is why it is so hard not to lash out at people for being biased here. I think the OP is a fanboy because he should have known that the "striking" feat he posted of Thor is a magic attack, not a pure striking feat. Superman's feat involved him using his own strength, Thor used a charged attack from an enchanted hammer, that sent a magical shock wave of blue energy that is clearly visible and causing the destruction, not his striking force.

All the damage done from superman striking in MOS is from his pure physical power. If you want to compare then post some feats of Thor punching something under his own power, not using lightning charged magic shock waves.

Not to mention the shock wave from Thor's magic attack broke up cobblestone sitting on top of soil and shattered glass. Superman and Zod brought down a solid concrete skyscraper. Thor's feat is super weak by comparison.

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#84 Posted by icec0ld (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

@asgardianbrony:

Obviously not for the following reasons

1} Thor's attack broke up pavement and cobblestone.........cobblestone. Any one of us can damage pavement or cobblestone with a work hammer. Try busting up a skyscraper with a work hammer.

2.) Thor's attack was a charged magic attack. He summoned a lightning bolt to his hammer and struck with a lighting charged attack. It was more of an explosion than a strike.

3.) Superman's strike was his raw physical strength, not magic explosions.