Moon Knight vs Bane
"didnt he sneak up on batman?"And Batman was exhausted from fighting.
"Moon Knight smokes'im. Unlike Bats, Spector is willing to go for the very lethal stuff. He has no problem getting in your face and stabbing you, though he'd just as well cut your ass up with crescent darts from a distance."
Do you say that from personal experience LOL
so he likes to kill woopie, that doesn't mean he has the skill to do it. Even after Bane stopped using the Venom he has proven to not only be quite resistant but has also made quick work of metahumans.
Moon Knight can take a lot of pain? look at the last issue of Secret Six
"Midnight was skilled. He tried to imitate Moon Knight and was an idiot who ended up getting himself killed and then turned into a cyborg, which of course amps his strength and durability."I don't see anything that screams skilled there
"It really all depends....current Moon Knight or Classic Moon Knight?I don't think it matters either way if you consider Moon Knight's standard equipment.
Bane on Venom, or Bane without Venom?
Random encounter?"
I am a huge Moon Knight fan. But he is not walking all over Bane who is still quite the Polymath, almost a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne. Even with out the Venom. Bane is still quite the Grappler, and a pretty fierce striker as well. Not to mention every bit as ruthless as Marc Spector. But Moon Knight can win this, it's just simply isn't going to be the cake walk some people imply.
"I am a huge Moon Knight fan. But he is not walking all over Bane who is still quite the Polymath, almost a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne. Even with out the Venom. Bane is still quite the Grappler, and a pretty fierce striker as well. Not to mention every bit as ruthless as Marc Spector. But Moon Knight can win this, it's just simply isn't going to be the cake walk some people imply."Moon Knight doesn't have to walk all over Bane to win.He doesn't have to curbstomp him.Moon Knight can however beat Bane.He's not a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne.He's not even close to Batman's intellect or his fighting skill.He can be a grappler all he wants..Moon Knight is a vicious murder..who by the way is always armed.Bane isn't as ruthless as Spector..he's not even on the same planet as far as ruthlessness goes.
claws said:I don't think DC has a set number but I believe it's somewhere around 2 tons."how exactly much can bane lift"
l looks like i have too find out myself"
I have to say Moon Knight, and I don't really care for the guy.
Bane's biggest achievement was breaking Batman's back AFTER Batman was completely exhausted from fighting REAL threats for days straight. And it was still cheap at that.
I see Moon Knight tearing him up. Not in the "PWNage" way, but literally, beating him in a nice fight, then tearing him up with his blades.
"moonknight can lift 2 tons also and moonknight i'm going with"No he can't Moon Knight doesn't have powers anymore.His max is 450lbs.
"Secret Turchin Man said:"I am a huge Moon Knight fan. But he is not walking all over Bane who is still quite the Polymath, almost a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne. Even with out the Venom. Bane is still quite the Grappler, and a pretty fierce striker as well. Not to mention every bit as ruthless as Marc Spector. But Moon Knight can win this, it's just simply isn't going to be the cake walk some people imply."Moon Knight doesn't have to walk all over Bane to win.He doesn't have to curbstomp him.Moon Knight can however beat Bane.He's not a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne.He's not even close to Batman's intellect or his fighting skill.He can be a grappler all he wants..Moon Knight is a vicious murder..who by the way is always armed.Bane isn't as ruthless as Spector..he's not even on the same planet as far as ruthlessness goes."
Actually you said Moon Knight owns him. As for not being a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne? Ras Al Ghul said Bane "Has a mind equal to the greatest he has known." He taught himself 10 active languages, and at least 4 arcane and dead languages. He is considered one of the most gifted escapologists in the DCU having broke out of Pena Duro(arguably the most heavily fortified prison on New Earth), Arkham Asylum, and Black Gate. He is considered extremely knowledgable in Medicine, various Scientific fields, History, Geography, and Mathematics. He engineered the mass breakout at Arkham of all the Bat's enemies. He is not only mastered in, but credited with creating various Martial arts, and considered more physically gifted than the dark night in both strength and stamnia. But other than that I see your point. Now that I have spelled it out. I have had a change of heart...He would crush Marc Spector.
"Vance Astro said:Moon Knight does own him.I'm not denying it.I'm just saying that whether he does or not..he is still going to win.As far as what Ra's Al Ghul,characters say things about characters all the time in comics that aren't actually true.For Instance Wonder Woman saying Superman is the most powerful hero they have (Justice League),Reed Richards saying Spider-Man is his intellectual equal,Master Po claiming that Ninjas are easy to beat yet the Hand almost beat the New Avengers.The list goes on an on.Bane has done nothing to prove he is anywhere near Batman's level of intellect.Teaching yourself languages doesn't mean anything..people of average intelligence can do that.Bane also has not proven he is a master of jack sh#t.He lost to Robin...he's such a master of Martial arts but he can't beat a child?"Secret Turchin Man said:"I am a huge Moon Knight fan. But he is not walking all over Bane who is still quite the Polymath, almost a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne. Even with out the Venom. Bane is still quite the Grappler, and a pretty fierce striker as well. Not to mention every bit as ruthless as Marc Spector. But Moon Knight can win this, it's just simply isn't going to be the cake walk some people imply."Moon Knight doesn't have to walk all over Bane to win.He doesn't have to curbstomp him.Moon Knight can however beat Bane.He's not a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne.He's not even close to Batman's intellect or his fighting skill.He can be a grappler all he wants..Moon Knight is a vicious murder..who by the way is always armed.Bane isn't as ruthless as Spector..he's not even on the same planet as far as ruthlessness goes."
Actually you said Moon Knight owns him. As for not being a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne? Ras Al Ghul said Bane "Has a mind equal to the greatest he has known." He taught himself 10 active languages, and at least 4 arcane and dead languages. He is considered one of the most gifted escapologists in the DCU having broke out of Pena Duro(arguably the most heavily fortified prison on New Earth), Arkham Asylum, and Black Gate. He is considered extremely knowledgable in Medicine, various Scientific fields, History, Geography, and Mathematics. He engineered the mass breakout at Arkham of all the Bat's enemies. He is not only mastered in, but credited with creating various Martial arts, and considered more physically gifted than the dark night in both strength and stamnia. But other than that I see your point."
"Secret Turchin Man said:"Vance Astro said:Moon Knight does own him.I'm not denying it.I'm just saying that whether he does or not..he is still going to win.As far as what Ra's Al Ghul,characters say things about characters all the time in comics that aren't actually true.For Instance Wonder Woman saying Superman is the most powerful hero they have (Justice League),Reed Richards saying Spider-Man is his intellectual equal,Master Po claiming that Ninjas are easy to beat yet the Hand almost beat the New Avengers.The list goes on an on.Bane has done nothing to prove he is anywhere near Batman's level of intellect.Teaching yourself languages doesn't mean anything..people of average intelligence can do that.Bane also has not proven he is a master of jack sh#t.He lost to Robin...he's such a master of Martial arts but he can't beat a child?""Secret Turchin Man said:"I am a huge Moon Knight fan. But he is not walking all over Bane who is still quite the Polymath, almost a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne. Even with out the Venom. Bane is still quite the Grappler, and a pretty fierce striker as well. Not to mention every bit as ruthless as Marc Spector. But Moon Knight can win this, it's just simply isn't going to be the cake walk some people imply."Moon Knight doesn't have to walk all over Bane to win.He doesn't have to curbstomp him.Moon Knight can however beat Bane.He's not a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne.He's not even close to Batman's intellect or his fighting skill.He can be a grappler all he wants..Moon Knight is a vicious murder..who by the way is always armed.Bane isn't as ruthless as Spector..he's not even on the same planet as far as ruthlessness goes."
Actually you said Moon Knight owns him. As for not being a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne? Ras Al Ghul said Bane "Has a mind equal to the greatest he has known." He taught himself 10 active languages, and at least 4 arcane and dead languages. He is considered one of the most gifted escapologists in the DCU having broke out of Pena Duro(arguably the most heavily fortified prison on New Earth), Arkham Asylum, and Black Gate. He is considered extremely knowledgable in Medicine, various Scientific fields, History, Geography, and Mathematics. He engineered the mass breakout at Arkham of all the Bat's enemies. He is not only mastered in, but credited with creating various Martial arts, and considered more physically gifted than the dark night in both strength and stamnia. But other than that I see your point."
So crappy nonsensical writing is your argument? You have called many things PIS just since I have been on these boards, but you use that against me? Please. Robin should not beat Bain. The Hand shouldn't beat the Power Rangers.
"Vance Astro said:No..crappy writing isn't my argument.Batman has only had trouble with Bane in one fight...but you make it seem as if he's on his intellectual level.What has Bane ever done that would prove he has any chance against Moon Knight.You can say what you want about the Hand but they have almost killed several heroes...Bane has not."Secret Turchin Man said:"Vance Astro said:Moon Knight does own him.I'm not denying it.I'm just saying that whether he does or not..he is still going to win.As far as what Ra's Al Ghul,characters say things about characters all the time in comics that aren't actually true.For Instance Wonder Woman saying Superman is the most powerful hero they have (Justice League),Reed Richards saying Spider-Man is his intellectual equal,Master Po claiming that Ninjas are easy to beat yet the Hand almost beat the New Avengers.The list goes on an on.Bane has done nothing to prove he is anywhere near Batman's level of intellect.Teaching yourself languages doesn't mean anything..people of average intelligence can do that.Bane also has not proven he is a master of jack sh#t.He lost to Robin...he's such a master of Martial arts but he can't beat a child?""Secret Turchin Man said:"I am a huge Moon Knight fan. But he is not walking all over Bane who is still quite the Polymath, almost a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne. Even with out the Venom. Bane is still quite the Grappler, and a pretty fierce striker as well. Not to mention every bit as ruthless as Marc Spector. But Moon Knight can win this, it's just simply isn't going to be the cake walk some people imply."Moon Knight doesn't have to walk all over Bane to win.He doesn't have to curbstomp him.Moon Knight can however beat Bane.He's not a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne.He's not even close to Batman's intellect or his fighting skill.He can be a grappler all he wants..Moon Knight is a vicious murder..who by the way is always armed.Bane isn't as ruthless as Spector..he's not even on the same planet as far as ruthlessness goes."
Actually you said Moon Knight owns him. As for not being a Dark Mirror of Bruce Wayne? Ras Al Ghul said Bane "Has a mind equal to the greatest he has known." He taught himself 10 active languages, and at least 4 arcane and dead languages. He is considered one of the most gifted escapologists in the DCU having broke out of Pena Duro(arguably the most heavily fortified prison on New Earth), Arkham Asylum, and Black Gate. He is considered extremely knowledgable in Medicine, various Scientific fields, History, Geography, and Mathematics. He engineered the mass breakout at Arkham of all the Bat's enemies. He is not only mastered in, but credited with creating various Martial arts, and considered more physically gifted than the dark night in both strength and stamnia. But other than that I see your point."
So crappy nonsensical writing is your argument? You have called many things PIS just since I have been on these boards, but you use that against me? Please. Robin should not beat Bain. The Hand shouldn't beat the Power Rangers."
Based on what I've seen from Batman and Bane altogether, they aren't equal in intellect. That's real talk. Batman has said, done, and come up with things that Bane has never come up with. Just because one person says that he's equal to Batman in intellect doesn't make it so if he hasn't done anything on his intellectual level. Ra's Al Ghul doesn't speak for everyone, and he was clearly stating his opinion when he said that. Bane can be knowledgeable in a bunch of scientific fields, but Batman is a polymath, and has gained degrees in many, if not all, of the fields he has studied. There's a difference between being knowledgeable in a field and having a degree in a field. The only human that could be equal to Batman is Mr. Terrific. If not equal, close. As for the escapologist thing, they aren't equal in that either. I read somewhere that Batman was second to Mr. Miracle in escapology. I think it takes more effort and skill to escape fro ma straightjacket than it does a prison. That's just me, though. As for the martial arts thing, Batman has mastered 127 fighting styles. I've seen him master difficult and deadly moves very quickly, as if he has a natural aptitude for mastering things. If Bane is a master martial artist, then that's cool. But, he's not on Batman's level in terms of fighting. As for being more physically gifted, I can't argue with that.
He could have killed the Bat. He did kill that lame Kung Fu guy. He has broken out of multiple Maximum security prisons on New Earth, which seems to be somthing people make David Cain out to be a supestar over. And you think its easy to teach your self at least 14 languages while also teaching yourself all the various fields of knowledge mentioned earlier, while also running a prison from the inside, and then escaping.I am not saying he is Bruce's equal but he is close, which has been stated a multiple times by the man himself. We both know at one time Connor Hawke was being touted as the next big thing, then he starts getting whooped on regularly, Shiva was supposed to be the baddest thing going then Bruce knocked her out with one shot. You might say what Ras said was crap but Bane was feared for quite some time. And first you are saying that Moon Knight owns Bane like it would be a walk in the park and then when I state he can win but it woulkd be hard fought you want to debate me. Bane isn't Bushman, Marc would be hard pressed and might not win. And like I stated earlier, I am a huge Moon Knight fan, I own almost every issue of the first 2 series. But Bane should Beat him. And if all the various things that have been stated in comics about how dangerous, tough, intelligent, and crafty Bane is should be discounted, why read comics?
Even ignoring that Bane has beaten Batman (when did Tim beat him btw?) Bane has also recently even with the lack of venom being able to take down guys that are better than MK in his two principle areas using hand to hand combat alone.
Bane beat and killed Judomaster who ain't only a better fighter than MK will ever be but he also made quick work of him, on the recent secret six he also beat Mammoth who while dumb has a strength level which should be way superior to the 2 ton mark.
"Even ignoring that Bane has beaten Batman (when did Tim beat him btw?) Bane has also recently even with the lack of venom being able to take down guys that are better than MK in his two principle areas using hand to hand combat alone.
Bane beat and killed Judomaster who ain't only a better fighter than MK will ever be but he also made quick work of him, on the recent secret six he also beat Mammoth who while dumb has a strength level which should be way superior to the 2 ton mark.
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Not to mentionin the Bane of the demon Storyline Bane is said to have a photgraphic memory. And he figured out Batman's secret identity in one year.
"He could have killed the Bat. He did kill that lame Kung Fu guy. He has broken out of multiple Maximum security prisons on New Earth, which seems to be somthing people make David Cain out to be a supestar over. And you think its easy to teach your self at least 14 languages while also teaching yourself all the various fields of knowledge mentioned earlier, while also running a prison from the inside, and then escaping.I am not saying he is Bruce's equal but he is close, which has been stated a multiple times by the man himself. We both know at one time Connor Hawke was being touted as the next big thing, then he starts getting whooped on regularly, Shiva was supposed to be the baddest thing going then Bruce knocked her out with one shot. You might say what Ras said was crap but Bane was feared for quite some time. And first you are saying that Moon Knight owns Bane like it would be a walk in the park and then when I state he can win but it woulkd be hard fought you want to debate me. Bane isn't Bushman, Marc would be hard pressed and might not win. And like I stated earlier, I am a huge Moon Knight fan, I own almost every issue of the first 2 series. But Bane should Beat him. And if all the various things that have been stated in comics about how dangerous, tough, intelligent, and crafty Bane is should be discounted, why read comics?"No one is discounting anything about Bane. It's just that when you're comparing him to Batman in certain aspects, it seems like Bane is no where close. I think it's a stretch to say that he is.
"He could have killed the Bat. He did kill that lame Kung Fu guy. He has broken out of multiple Maximum security prisons on New Earth, which seems to be somthing people make David Cain out to be a supestar over. And you think its easy to teach your self at least 14 languages while also teaching yourself all the various fields of knowledge mentioned earlier, while also running a prison from the inside, and then escaping.I am not saying he is Bruce's equal but he is close, which has been stated a multiple times by the man himself. We both know at one time Connor Hawke was being touted as the next big thing, then he starts getting whooped on regularly, Shiva was supposed to be the baddest thing going then Bruce knocked her out with one shot. You might say what Ras said was crap but Bane was feared for quite some time. And first you are saying that Moon Knight owns Bane like it would be a walk in the park and then when I state he can win but it woulkd be hard fought you want to debate me. Bane isn't Bushman, Marc would be hard pressed and might not win. And like I stated earlier, I am a huge Moon Knight fan, I own almost every issue of the first 2 series. But Bane should Beat him. And if all the various things that have been stated in comics about how dangerous, tough, intelligent, and crafty Bane is should be discounted, why read comics?"Yea..he could have killed Batman when he set him up to exhaust himself and then ambushed him.That makes him soooo tuff huh? Who cares what prisons Bane has broken out of.Dumber people than Bane have broken out of SHIELD's prisons.It's not easy to teach yourself 14 languages but it's not a big deal either.Bane is nowhere near Batman's intellect,he has never proven that..ever.Conner,Shiva,and Ra's Al Ghul are all better qualified to beat Moon Knight or even Batman for that matter.
"Even ignoring that Bane has beaten Batman (when did Tim beat him btw?) Bane has also recently even with the lack of venom being able to take down guys that are better than MK in his two principle areas using hand to hand combat alone.You are using ABC logic.Just because Bane beats one person doesn't mean he can beat Moon Knight.
Bane beat and killed Judomaster who ain't only a better fighter than MK will ever be but he also made quick work of him, on the recent secret six he also beat Mammoth who while dumb has a strength level which should be way superior to the 2 ton mark.
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