Moon Knight/Bushman vs Nightwing/Batgirl

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In character

Winner by Ko, incapacitation or death

random encounter

standard gear and abilities

fight takes place at an unpopulated city setting at night

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who'd win? for what reasons?

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Need some info on Bushman, I've heard of em but know very little

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Need some info on Bushman, I've heard of em but know very little

He has an extremely high pain threshold, and he threw Moon Knight off of a building and shattered his knee caps.

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@artyom: seems as if he could totally be a threat. Biggest problem they'll face is the teamwork from Dick and Barbara, atm imma say bat team cause of synergy.

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@artyom: seems as if he could totally be a threat. Biggest problem they'll face is the teamwork from Dick and Barbara, atm imma say bat team cause of synergy.

Probably. I don't know much about Bushman. That is all I've seen from him.

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#10  Edited By owie  Moderator

@life_without_progress: Are you really sure you want this to be in character? Because, just to state the obvious, an in-character Bushman and Moon Knight are not going to work well together. I would consider going with morals off.

That being said, it's a pretty good fight. If we assume they actually work together, I could see Moon Knight and Nightwing being fairly close. And Bushman would take down Batgirl, I think.

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Don't know anything about Bushman

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Idk Bushman, but Team 1 would probably win, considering that Moon Knight as a good chance of solo'ing.

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Idk Bushman, but Team 1 would probably win, considering that Moon Knight as a good chance of solo'ing.

How is Moon Knight going to solo? I don't know anything about him, but from what I've heard, his armor and pain tolerance are the only thing keeping him from being put down quickly.

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@bat_girl_cc said:

Idk Bushman, but Team 1 would probably win, considering that Moon Knight as a good chance of solo'ing.

How is Moon Knight going to solo? I don't know anything about him, but from what I've heard, his armor and pain tolerance are the only thing keeping him from being put down quickly.

Well, he's a bit inconsistent, but he has feats good enough to put him on Daredevil's level of speed and reflexes, and he's actually quite skilled as well.

I'm not sure about his current version tho, but classic moon-knight, has a good chance of solo'ing.

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Cut's a bullet in half:

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Moon Knight's skill being compared to Captain America's:

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- Stallemated Daredevil on Moon Knight #13 - The Cream of the Jest

- He helped Spider-Man took on Hobgoblin on Web of Spider-Man #93 - The Test and Moon Knight was able to keep up with Goblin.

I have no idea, if he's still good now, i know that he's inconsistent, though as far as i know, Moon Knight on a basis, as chance of solo'ing here.

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Team 2

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Marvel team even with bushman as the weak link

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Depends on a few factors, but if MK and Bushman don't try to kill each other instead and Marc doesn't act like a moron ,they will win

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The main factor is if bushman can hang with anyone. Moon knight could beat tjem 1v1 but not 2v1. If bushman lasts then marvel team takes a majority

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Ill say marvel team with moon knight as the mvp

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@owie: im not sure on bushman and batgirl. Bushman isn't exaclty impressive like the other 3 why do you think he can win?

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Nightwing defeats Moon Knight. Barbara could defeat Bushman.

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#24  Edited By Rac95

@zemoftw: Bushman's main ability is to keep up with Moon Knight. His two big things are his brutality and his tank-like character. He is kinda like MK-lite. Should be enough for Barbara or to atleast stand his ground for a while against Nightwing

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#25  Edited By Zemoftw

@rac95: you have a point, though mk isnt Barbara. Mk only struggles with bushman is because he is mks villain and little more . Kind of like joker ever giving batman trouble h2h. bushmans durability doesn't help much in thier fights as spector usually drops him with little effort. I barbara isnt as skilled as mk but she should be enough to take him imo. We can't really get a good assesment on bushman because he only fights moon knight. He should fight daredevil or someone so he can be better judged

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Mk>nightwing>barbara>/=bushman

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@zemoftw: Fitting in the terms of skill although I'd say Bushman is a bit closer to Barbara if he has his weapons and I'd say Bushmans durability is quite helpful, since he managed to still attack with three crescent darts in his neck or shoot with the gun that was shoved through his stomach

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#29 owie  Moderator

@zemoftw said:

@owie: im not sure on bushman and batgirl. Bushman isn't exaclty impressive like the other 3 why do you think he can win?

As you and @rac95 have been discussing, mostly due to Bushman's ability to hang with MK. But I agree, we need to get Bushman out fighting somebody else so we can better judge him. But I do disagree that Bushman vs MK is like Joker vs Batman, Bushman certainly displays a solid amount of fighting skill, strength, and durability. Bushman/MK doesn't have the asymmetry in those qualities that there are in Joker/Batman.

Batgirl does have better gear though.

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Team 1 barely.

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@owie: Well, Batgirl has versatility, Bushman has lethality. As for the comparison of Bushman with Joker, they are comparable in the sense of being the arch-enemy, but you are right in the point that Bushman is a sadistic, psycho with military training against a normal sadistic, psycho.

If you put both of them in a room, I am sure Bushman would leave it alone

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@owie: definitely. Once bushman fights moon knights peers like daredevil or punisher, we can get a better assesment from him. I didn't mean to use the joker and batman example to such an extent as bushman is obviously no slouch in h2h.

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@zemoftw: MK would be able to beat one enemy faster than Bushman would be able to lose imo.

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@necromancer76: you've got a point. Moon knight >nightwing>barbara>/=bushman

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Team 2.