Momoshiki and Kinshiki Otsutsuki vs Fairy Tail Team

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Rules:

  • Current versions for Fairy Tail.
  • Momoshiki cannot absorb Kinshiki.
  • Chakra/magical energy equalised.
  • Fairy Team team, however, has full knowledge of Momoshiki's abilities.
  • Basic knowledge for the Otsutsukis.
  • Teams start 100 feet apart.
  • Win by death or KO.
  • Fight takes place here:
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#3  Edited By NeverGetUp

Any of Team 1 could solo.

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The FT team takes it, even if the absorption of kinshiki is allowed.

Flash freeze on kinshiki, and then hand to hand with Momo who even in the red form couldn't handle multiple attackers and only stood a chance when he absorbed something.

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@oopsen said:

Do you aware the speed gap between Fairy Tail and Naruto?

Kinshiki can keep up with Base Sasuke in H2H who is legitimately confirmed to be relavistic speed. Momoshiki can keep up with both like an ordinary fight. Kinshiki can cut city level tree in one swing. Momoshiki absorb all techniques and uses a counter attack way stronger than he receives.

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@oopsen: Even part 1 rock lee could speed blitz all of Fairy tail characters. This is mismatch. Mods please lock this thread.

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Either Momoshiki or Kinshiki solo. They're much faster than anyone in Fairy Tail, powerful enough to fight evenly with Naruto and Sasuke, and even Kinshiki alone could cut a Shinju Tree with pure physical strength which should be enough to oneshot FT team to be honest.

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@valarmelkor: they weren't fighting evenly, they were getting roflstomped by the 2 and the Kages and still got stomped post absorption, the only time momo was ever a threat was when he had absorbed jutsu.

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can you stop with the mismatches.

anyone from team 1 stomps.

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#12  Edited By oopsen

@nevergetup: saskue doesn't fight at relativistic speeds, he can react, dodge, and move short distances in that speed (which is a little higher than what I think it is) also the Kages were blitzing momo and kin also are the Kages relativistic too?

What puts that severely smaller tree at city level?

And they know Momos abilities so why would they use energy?

Natsu is not slow at all, and neither are any of the other members natsu early series could intercept and kick missiles away from hitting other members.

And even in the manga most recently he runs through 100,000 soldiers before anyone notices and that was in base.

So no lee in part one would not blitz anyone, natsu tanks an attack comparable to a meteor from jellal extremely early in the series before multiple amps of power.

And also jellal early series is as fast as a meteor, and natsu was blitzing him in dragon force.

And that was early before multiple amps, A meteor is a lot faster than part one lee

So In turn if early series natsu can react to and blitz someone at the speed of a meteor he can definitely land hits on momo and Kin the same way the Kages were.

And also all do these characters on his team are on par with natsu or comparable.

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Team 1 wins.

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Fairy Tail need speed feats.

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Momoshiki can solo . Team 1 stomps

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@oopsen said:

@nevergetup: saskue doesn't fight at relativistic speeds, he can react, dodge, and move short distances in that speed (which is a little higher than what I think it is) also the Kages were blitzing momo and kin also are the Kages relativistic too?

What puts that severely smaller tree at city level?

And they know Momos abilities so why would they use energy?

Natsu is not slow at all, and neither are any of the other members natsu early series could intercept and kick missiles away from hitting other members.

And even in the manga most recently he runs through 100,000 soldiers before anyone notices and that was in base.

So no lee in part one would not blitz anyone, natsu tanks an attack comparable to a meteor from jellal extremely early in the series before multiple amps of power.

And also jellal early series is as fast as a meteor, and natsu was blitzing him in dragon force.

And that was early before multiple amps, A meteor is a lot faster than part one lee

So In turn if early series natsu can react to and blitz someone at the speed of a meteor he can definitely land hits on momo and Kin the same way the Kages were.

And also all do these characters on his team are on par with natsu or comparable.

You do aware Kakashi Pain Arc could use Kamui to a missle that was heading away to Choji as a target. Sasuke Shippuden in the beginning could take down thousands of armies with his sword. Base Naruto and Sasuke EOS ran across countries from the battlefield to Valley of the End. Lee is hypersonic+, it is still debatable though, but when Lee releases his Gate Formation, he will definitely blitz Team FT. Beside that, if they manage to land a hit to Momo or Kinshiki, I don't see them being able to take them down, since their durability are far beyond your imagination. Top-God tier FT = Naruto mid tier

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#17  Edited By TheVivas

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@oopsen: Even part 1 rock lee could speed blitz all of Fairy tail characters.

No he can't. You need to actually read Fairy Tail if you think Chunin Exams Lee could blitz the verse.

You do aware Kakashi Pain Arc could use Kamui to a missle that was heading away to Choji as a target

Which isn't that fast. Natsu intercepted and kicked away missiles in Edolas, which was earlier in the FT manga than the Pain arc was in the Naruto manga and before two timeskips where everyone grew in power.

Sasuke Shippuden in the beginning could take down thousands of armies with his sword

It was (probably) a thousand Jounin. Doesn't make it an army.

And that's not more impressive than Natsu and Gajeel taking out a whole battalion of soldiers and at least two airships in a matter of moments, especially since they were holding back:

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Base Naruto and Sasuke EOS ran across countries from the battlefield to Valley of the End.

Key word - EOS. End of series. They also reacted to a lightspeed attack (Naruto) in his strongest form. But those two are the strongest in the series, no doubt they'd be faster than anyone in FT.

Lee is hypersonic+ it is still debatable though, but when Lee releases his Gate Formation, he will definitely blitz Team FT

Top tiers in FT are also hypersonic. An older Lee with Gates would blitz, not Chunin Exams Lee.

Beside that, if they manage to land a hit to Momo or Kinshiki, I don't see them being able to take them down, since their durability are far beyond your imagination

Natsu could do this in base, without the help of Dragonforce or Lightning Flame Dragon Mode:

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Either momoshiki or kinshiki solo.

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@nevergetup: Mach 200 is the speed of a meteor, they could all tag momo and kin, how is their durability far beyond my imagination when the KAGES were hurting them, none of the Kages are physically superior to any of the fairy tail team.

I watch naruto, Sakura hurt kaguya and kaguya>>>>>momo and kin on feats.

Dragon slayers durability> than a lot of characters in naruto besides the god tier since they have the skin of dragons natsu has never been cut, this man breaks huge magic blades that negate magic with his bare hands which means it wasn't even with a magic amp.

Natsu has never been knocked out, or taken down by pain he only ever went down from him being empty on magic which doesn't happen anymore.

And all they have to do is take they eye out on his hand, which boruto did and momoshiki couldn't even react to that in time yet you think he is too fast for people that fought someone moving anywhere from Mach 32-Mach 200.

and without the eye multiple dragon roars will do the trick.

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Momoshinka absorbing the other puppet's power would end them in seconds

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Momoshinka absorbing the other puppet's power would end them in seconds

Which is why I didn't allow it:

Momoshiki cannot absorb Kinshiki.

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Good thing no one on Fairy Tale uses Chakra, Momoshiki can't/won't be absorbing magic, either. The three Dragon Slayers is all they need to defeat the duo, whereas Erza and Grey would surely give them a stomp.

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@thevivas Don't you love it when ppl ignore your OP? But on topic I am siding with team one in a stomp Momo can still use any justu he had absorbed before hand and use it again just amped such as a bijuuudama, and Kinshinki cut through the shinju with pure strength which if we scale off and assume they have same durability I fail to see why either couldn't solostomp well more in Momo's case since the whole magic and chakra equal thing, and he still has rinnegan so yeah. .

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@passingthrough545: no he can't, he showed in the fight with the Kages and naruto and saskue that he needed to absorb jutsu again.

Same thing when he wrecked the chunnin exams he didn't use jutsu until he absorbed the ninja tools jutsu.

And the tree wouldn't have the same durability as it was a lot smaller since he didn't have all the tailed beasts and besides that the Kages were trading with kinshiki pretty easily so I don't think he is that strong as it was more heat that did the cutting same thing with naruto magma rasenshuriken expansion cutting the original tree.

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@joker_mare: I don't think so, I think he would have a better chance, but in that state he didn't even react to boruto stabbing his hands eye.

And even then without absorbing anything all his Jutsus are heat based so natsu would have a buffet lined up for him.

Natsu could even eat his red weapons.

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@oopsen said:

@joker_mare:

And even then without absorbing anything all his Jutsus are heat based so natsu would have a buffet lined up for him.

You do know if you move fast enough you can cause friction in the air which means your body catches on fire which means your at meteor speed, if you thrown something fast enough it heats up same principle.

Natsu could even eat his red weapons.

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tools_Creation_at_Will

Not fire jutsu or heat related. So no he can't

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@passingthrough545: no he can't, he showed in the fight with the Kages and naruto and saskue that he needed to absorb jutsu again.

Same thing when he wrecked the chunnin exams he didn't use jutsu until he absorbed the ninja tools jutsu.

And the tree wouldn't have the same durability as it was a lot smaller since he didn't have all the tailed beasts and besides that the Kages were trading with kinshiki pretty easily so I don't think he is that strong as it was more heat that did the cutting same thing with naruto magma rasenshuriken expansion cutting the original tree.

Does not really matter since he can just rinnegan techs. And he used bijuudama against both Bee and during the chunin exams. I fail to see why Kages hurting him would be a bad thing since they have hax such as the Mizukage tech basically working this

"In the air, Choujuurou took his beloved sword, Hiramekarei, and detached it so it divided into two swords. The chakra that gathered between them pierced Kinshiki like glowing kunai.

The art of wielding swords was Kirigakure’s speciality.

“Guagh!”

Blood spurted out from all over Kinshiki’s body. The chakra needles that had spurted out from hiramekarei disrupted his chakra channels. It was a shinobi killing technique unique to Kirigakura that, while it wouldn’t kill instantly, would slowly bring death."

Considering the heat was created from the slash yes it still counts it just means he is fast and strong enough that can create a wave that cuts via heat.

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#27  Edited By oopsen

@passingthrough545: I mean his blades were red, and he was creating them and everything else kin had and momo used post absorption was heat based so I don't think it was the speed it was just that his weapons were super heated like what he did to the rocks that encased saskue.

And bijuu dama is just Raw chakra, when he used on it bee ,bee had thrown it at him, he makes it the second time when they use the ninja tech on him, and he didn't use it again unttil the ninja tech was fired at him and even thanked the guy.

So yeah it isn't raw speed, more strength and crazy heat it's the same principle as saskue sussano sword slicing through the golem or a what a giant lightsaber would do to the tree.

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@oopsen said:

@passingthrough545: I mean his blades were red, and he was creating them and everything else kin had and momo used post absorption was heat based so I don't think it was the speed it was just that his weapons were super heated like what he did to the rocks that encased saskue.

Being red does not mean heat based using its red thus its hot is dumb and not logical. Sauce had a chain wrapped around it did not burn him.

And he used a absolute zero attack in post absorption form.

“Here, receive it!” Momoshiki roared, “A token of my gratitude!”

Jutsu rained on them as if the world was ending.

Crimson flames, lightning that split heaven and earth, absolute zero degree blizzard, a downpour of meteorites. They threw back Katasuke and them first.

“Take cover!”

Gaara’s shield of sand barely managed to shield Choujuurou and the others.

Momoshiki fired an amplified version of the Kageshibari. It restrained the Gokage, including Naruto. It was the jutsu that Momoshiki has sucked up from Shikamaru in the earlier battle. He’d been saving it as a trump card."

Hell do you have anything to claim that it is heat based officially. Stop saying its heat based unless you have the movie databook which state that it is.

And bijuu dama is just Raw chakra, when he used on it bee ,bee had thrown it at him, he makes it the second time when they use the ninja tech on him, and he didn't use it again unttil the ninja tech was fired at him and even thanked the guy.

So why can't just make it a third time since its just raw chakra. He only thanked him because it healed him.

So yeah it isn't raw speed, more strength and crazy heat it's the same principle as saskue sussano sword slicing through the golem or a what a giant lightsaber would do to the tree.

You need x speed and x strength to create heat, Hulk is crazy strong but his attacks does not create heat. A cigarette needs to going 1200 mph just to set itself on fire.

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#29  Edited By Omega_kai

@thevivas said:
@nevergetup said:

@oopsen: Even part 1 rock lee could speed blitz all of Fairy tail characters.

No he can't. You need to actually read Fairy Tail if you think Chunin Exams Lee could blitz the verse.

You do aware Kakashi Pain Arc could use Kamui to a missle that was heading away to Choji as a target

Which isn't that fast. Natsu intercepted and kicked away missiles in Edolas, which was earlier in the FT manga than the Pain arc was in the Naruto manga and before two timeskips where everyone grew in power.

Sasuke Shippuden in the beginning could take down thousands of armies with his sword

It was (probably) a thousand Jounin. Doesn't make it an army.

And that's not more impressive than Natsu and Gajeel taking out a whole battalion of soldiers and at least two airships in a matter of moments, especially since they were holding back:

Gallery image 1Gallery image 2Gallery image 3Gallery image 4Gallery image 5Gallery image 6

Base Naruto and Sasuke EOS ran across countries from the battlefield to Valley of the End.

Key word - EOS. End of series. They also reacted to a lightspeed attack (Naruto) in his strongest form. But those two are the strongest in the series, no doubt they'd be faster than anyone in FT.

Lee is hypersonic+ it is still debatable though, but when Lee releases his Gate Formation, he will definitely blitz Team FT

Top tiers in FT are also hypersonic. An older Lee with Gates would blitz, not Chunin Exams Lee.

Beside that, if they manage to land a hit to Momo or Kinshiki, I don't see them being able to take them down, since their durability are far beyond your imagination

Natsu could do this in base, without the help of Dragonforce or Lightning Flame Dragon Mode:

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How are you gonna debate in your thread??!?!? Scrub

Jk :P

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Either of the team one will solo.

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@omega_kai: Everything but the last comment I made was me disagreeing with that guy's views on FT's speed. Lol

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It's even more of a stomp with the anime versions

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Why bump this?

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Momoshiki is too much for the FT verse

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Either Otsutsuki solos.

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Team one stomps.

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Either Otsutsuki solos.

This.

Also why equalize energies? Momoshiki will just absorb everything and then nuke them.

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either of team 1 can lowkey solo the verse LMAO spite match, LOCK PLS!

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Either of Team 1 solos the verse

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LMAO. Spite

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They'd stomp Kinshiki. Really nothing they can do about Momo even with full knowledge though.

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Holy shit why did I make this?

Probably cause I liked the pictures. Yeah, this can get locked.

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@thevivas: lol yea, either of team 1 literally shitstomp the FTverse; but if it makes you feel any better, i once had a thread of SSJ2 Goku against Sage Naruto :P

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Dude how fast is FT

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@iusemycajonas: if I recall correctly, the fastest character is Laxus, who has lightning based abilities, but he failed to blitz Jura, who was struggling against someone who moved at the speed of a meteor. So I believe that they are AT MOST, mhs, but not lightning level

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Team 1 stomps

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Team 1 easily

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#49  Edited By bdelloidgrain2

Team 1 wins.

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This is just unfair.