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#1  Edited By King Quisling

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By ElvaLin

Shang Chi wins in a major curbstomp.

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#3  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Mister X will jump all over Shang Chi's ass like a pogo stick.

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#4  Edited By BatDance
Shang Chi one shots him
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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

This is f#ckin stupid.

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#6  Edited By sevennames27


Thunderbolts #132
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Mr. X for nthe win.
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#7  Edited By yodagod

Mr X wins the same way he always does. His low level telepathy that lets him predict Shang chi's attacks.  Unless Shang Chi can suddenly become so feral his mind is unreadable or interrupt the telepathy another way X wins.
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#8  Edited By Dark King

Mr. X FTW on a one sided curbstomp

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#9  Edited By Static Shock
@BatDance said:
" Shang Chi one shots him "
@ElvaLin said:
" Shang Chi wins in a major curbstomp. "
There's no way for Shang Chi to beat a guy that knows all of his moves before he can execute them.
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#10  Edited By Bobby X

Why post if you don't even know what Mr. X can do? 
 
Mr. X wins

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@Vance Astro said:

"This is f#ckin stupid. "


getting tired of these Mister X threads, Vance?   LOL 
don't blame you, I'm thinking of doing a Mr. X vs Zoom Vs Storm, vs Silver Surfer vs Superboy Prime vs Karate Kid battle thread 
 
JK : P
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#12  Edited By Ferro Vida

How is it that this is already over but the Iron Fist fight is still going? xD

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#13  Edited By Bobby X
@Ferro Vida:
I would say cuz Iron Fist's chi power is ever-expanding and he keeps developings more unique abilites...none which really help him against Mr X. though lol 
So that and fanboyism lol
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#14  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Donovan Montgomery said:
" @Vance Astro said:

"This is f#ckin stupid. "

getting tired of these Mister X threads, Vance?   LOL don't blame you, I'm thinking of doing a Mr. X vs Zoom Vs Storm, vs Silver Surfer vs Superboy Prime vs Karate Kid battle thread  JK : P "
I'm getting tired of Batdance....
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@Vance Astro:

Ah...lol 
Who knows what MA's Shang actually has mastered?
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#16  Edited By Static Shock
@Donovan Montgomery said:
"Who knows what MA's Shang actually has mastered? "
Practically every form of Chinese martial arts/Kung Fu.
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#17  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
After recent events (most notably, the Mr X vs IF thread) I checked my Handbook, and according to Mr X's bio, he is a level 7 fighter, with supposed knowledge on every form of armed/unarmed combat. And, considering what was said about X in the other thread, as well, I'm inclined to support him against Shang Chi, unless Shang has a way of resisting having his mind probed by him...Which I suppose he can not, and will not do, or it would have already been stated by now.
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#18  Edited By Static Shock
@Morpheus_ said:
" After recent events (most notably, the Mr X vs IF thread) I checked my Handbook, and according to Mr X's bio, he is a level 7 fighter, with supposed knowledge on every form of armed/unarmed combat. And, considering what was said about X in the other thread, as well, I'm inclined to support him against Shang Chi, unless Shang has a way of resisting having his mind probed by him...Which I suppose he can not, and will not do, or it would have already been stated by now. "
Shang Chi, like Mister X, has the ability to read moves, more or less like Mister X.... 
 

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#19  Edited By King Quisling
@Vance Astro: Why is it stupid?
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#20  Edited By Static Shock
@King Quisling said:
" @Vance Astro: Why is it stupid? "
Because of Mister X's ability to read moves based on his opponent's neural motor functions.
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#21  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Static Shock said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" After recent events (most notably, the Mr X vs IF thread) I checked my Handbook, and according to Mr X's bio, he is a level 7 fighter, with supposed knowledge on every form of armed/unarmed combat. And, considering what was said about X in the other thread, as well, I'm inclined to support him against Shang Chi, unless Shang has a way of resisting having his mind probed by him...Which I suppose he can not, and will not do, or it would have already been stated by now. "
Shang Chi, like Mister X, has the ability to read moves, more or less like Mister X.... 
 

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Shang's thoughts state that, he "has the ability to anticipate the flow of an opponent's attack", unless something else ecaped me. Reading movements may be effective, but Mr X does not simply do that, but rather "reads" the mind of his opponent about what he is about to do, before he actually does it. That is beyond the effectiveness of simple movement reading, no matter the similarity those two abilities may seemingly share. Also, my question was if Shang has the ability to shield himself from that ability of Mr X's, not if Shang can read movement himself.
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#22  Edited By King Quisling
@Static Shock: But Shang Chi can cut off his nerve endings so he can feel pain. Don't you think a technique like that could slightly throw off Mr.X?
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#23  Edited By Static Shock
@Morpheus_ said:
"Shang's thoughts state that, he "has the ability to anticipate the flow of an opponent's attack", unless something else ecaped me. Reading movements may be effective, but Mr X does not simply do that, but rather "reads" the mind of his opponent about what he is about to do, before he actually does it. That is beyond the effectiveness of simple movement reading, no matter the similarity those two abilities may seemingly share. Also, my question was if Shang has the ability to shield himself from that ability of Mr X's, not if Shang can read movement himself. "
I know. I was just giving any Shang Chi fan's the idea of false hope. LOL.
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@King Quisling said:
" @Static Shock: But Shang Chi can cut off his nerve endings so he can feel pain. Don't you think a technique like that could slightly throw off Mr.X? "
He can cut off his nerve endings to ignore pain, but masking and/or shielding his neural motor functions from being read is different, and Shang Chi doesn't have the ability to do that.
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#25  Edited By King Quisling
@Static Shock: "so he can't feel pain" *** 
 
But yeah, I still think if Chi can control his nervous system then he could find a way to fake out Mr.X. 
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@King Quisling said:
" @Static Shock: "so he can't feel pain" ***  But yeah, I still think if Chi can control his nervous system then he could find a way to fake out Mr.X.  "
Any evidence of Shang Chi being able to pull that off?
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#27  Edited By King Quisling
@Static Shock: He has beaten Fu Manchu and is considered Marvels MA expert. It's stated in his MU guide that the only person able of beating him in H2H is Wolverine. And that's only cuz he has a century of experience tht Chi can't match. 
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#28  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Static Shock said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"Shang's thoughts state that, he "has the ability to anticipate the flow of an opponent's attack", unless something else ecaped me. Reading movements may be effective, but Mr X does not simply do that, but rather "reads" the mind of his opponent about what he is about to do, before he actually does it. That is beyond the effectiveness of simple movement reading, no matter the similarity those two abilities may seemingly share. Also, my question was if Shang has the ability to shield himself from that ability of Mr X's, not if Shang can read movement himself. "
I know. I was just giving any Shang Chi fan's the idea of false hope. LOL. "
Well, for a moment there you got me. ; )
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@King Quisling said:
" He has beaten Fu Manchu and is consider Marvels MA expert. It's stated in his MU guide that the only person able of beating him in H2H is Wolverine. And that's only cuz he has a century of experience tht Chi can't match.  "
Fu Manchu is a pushover.
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#30  Edited By King Quisling
@Vance Astro: O.o what makes you say that? 
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#31  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@King Quisling said:
" @Vance Astro: O.o what makes you say that?  "
Any Marvel 5-7 level fighter could take him.
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#32  Edited By King Quisling
@Vance Astro: I thought Chi was the only person who has beaten him.
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#33  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@King Quisling said:
" @Vance Astro: I thought Chi was the only person who has beaten him. "
He is..but what I am saying is plenty of Marvel top levels could have done the same thing.Fu Manchu is no Stick.
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#34  Edited By castleking

and stick is no ogun

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#35  Edited By King Quisling
@Vance Astro: No way, Stick doesn't compare to Fu Manchu. Stick is a fantastic combatant no doubt but Fu Manchu has centuries of perfection of his art. 
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#36  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@castleking said:
" and stick is no ogun "
This. 
 
@King Quisling said:
" @Vance Astro: No way, Stick doesn't compare to Fu Manchu. Stick is a fantastic combatant no doubt but Fu Manchu has centuries of perfection of his art.  "
Fu Manchu hasn't done anything.Stick is way out of his league.
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#37  Edited By King Quisling
@Vance Astro: Just because we haven't seen much of him doesn't mean he isn't incredibly skilled. I'm sure if Marvel could get the rights to use the name Fu Manchu then he would be more of a threat in the U. It's hard to use a character without using their name. :P From what we know he's suppose to be near unstoppable. And think of the people he has trained. All of them are pretty wicked H2H combatants. 
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#38  Edited By Static Shock
@King Quisling said:

" @Vance Astro: I thought Chi was the only person who has beaten him. "

Who has Fu Manchu beaten or fought other than Shang Chi?
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#39  Edited By King Quisling
@Static Shock: Good point but you dismiss facts about the character. He's suppose to be the worlds greatest martial artist.
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#40  Edited By Static Shock
@King Quisling said:

" @Static Shock: Good point but you dismiss facts about the character. He's suppose to be the worlds greatest martial artist. "

What am I dismissing? You said that Shang Chi was the only person that could beat Fu Manchu, as if other notable martial artists couldn't. But, the problem is that Fu Manchu hasn't fought anybody worth a damn, besides Shang Chi. Again, what am I dismissing? You couldn't even answer my question. World's greatest martial artist? An opinion, at best. Not a fact.
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#41  Edited By Bobby X
@King Quisling said:
" @Static Shock: Good point but you dismiss facts about the character. He's suppose to be the worlds greatest martial artist. "


...how could he be the "world's greatest martial artist" if Shang Chi beat him?  Using martial arts lol?
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#42  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Bobby X said:
" @King Quisling said:
" @Static Shock: Good point but you dismiss facts about the character. He's suppose to be the worlds greatest martial artist. "


...how could he be the "world's greatest martial artist" if Shang Chi beat him?  Using martial arts lol? "
LOL.
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#43  Edited By the creator
@King Quisling said:
" @Vance Astro: Just because we haven't seen much of him doesn't mean he isn't incredibly skilled. I'm sure if Marvel could get the rights to use the name Fu Manchu then he would be more of a threat in the U. It's hard to use a character without using their name. :P From what we know he's suppose to be near unstoppable. And think of the people he has trained. All of them are pretty wicked H2H combatants.  "

And yet Fu hired in masters of martials arts from around the world to train Shang. 
I would have thought he might have done the training himself in that case.
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#44  Edited By castleking

not always so just b/c u are an MA master doesnt mean u train lower ranking ppl then you.... you let other students or lesser ppl train them for u in the basics first..... he could also have bn lazy

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#45  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@King Quisling said:
" @Vance Astro: Just because we haven't seen much of him doesn't mean he isn't incredibly skilled. I'm sure if Marvel could get the rights to use the name Fu Manchu then he would be more of a threat in the U. It's hard to use a character without using their name. :P From what we know he's suppose to be near unstoppable. And think of the people he has trained. All of them are pretty wicked H2H combatants.  "
You're making a case for him but you don't even know what he can do.The only reason I know exists is because Shang Chi broke him off.If all he has to show for his so called skill is getting his as beat by Shang Chi.Then how is beating him a feat? To pretend Fu Manchu was near unstoppable would make Shang look someone would wouldn't have gotten their ass handed to them by Wolverine as easily as shown.If you had said Shang Chi beat Ogun,Temugin,The Mandarin,Midnight Sun (which he did),Stone,Stick or even Iron Fist I could give him his props..but based on Fu Manchu alone that's nothing.
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#46  Edited By the creator
@castleking said:
"not always so just b/c u are an MA master doesnt mean u train lower ranking ppl then you.... you let other students or lesser ppl train them for u in the basics first..... he could also have bn lazy "

Maybe but he never took a hand in the training (apart from organising the trainers). 
If he was intent on making his 'son' the most deadly and skilled assassin, he would have given him the best. 
If that was Fu, he would have trained him. 
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#47  Edited By King Quisling
@Static Shock:
 @Vance Astro:
Plain and simple. Marvel can't use the name Fu Manchu and it's impossible to use a character when you can't use his name. I'm sure if they hadn't lost the rights to the name Fu would have more notable battles under his belt. Read early Master of Kung Fu stuff. HE's made out to be nearly unstoppable and a serious threat. 
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#48  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@King Quisling said:
" @Static Shock:  @Vance Astro: Plain and simple. Marvel can't use the name Fu Manchu and it's impossible to use a character when you can't use his name. I'm sure if they hadn't lost the rights to the name Fu would have more notable battles under his belt. Read early Master of Kung Fu stuff. HE's made out to be nearly unstoppable and a serious threat.  "
That doesn't matter...at all.Nearly unstoppable against mediocre martial artists isn't anything special.
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#49  Edited By Static Shock
@King Quisling said:

" @Static Shock:  @Vance Astro: Plain and simple. Marvel can't use the name Fu Manchu and it's impossible to use a character when you can't use his name. I'm sure if they hadn't lost the rights to the name Fu would have more notable battles under his belt. Read early Master of Kung Fu stuff. HE's made out to be nearly unstoppable and a serious threat.  "

Your making a case for a character, whose martial arts skill weren't showcased do to copyrights/trademarks. It's not helping your argument. If he was made to be unstoppable, then he would have been shown as such, and he hasn't been.
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#50  Edited By King Quisling
@Vance Astro: @Static Shock:  
 
Have either of your read any of Master of Kung Fu?