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Mirajane

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Round 1: Erza Knightwalker

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Round 2: Azuma (Mira is at full power)

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Round 3: Kagura and Minerva at the GMG

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Round 4: Ajeel

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Round 5: Irene (Mira has Wendy’s help)

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Rules:

Mirajane replaces Erza against some of her former enemies throughout fairy tail. How does she do in each of these rounds? This isn't really a gauntlet just to be clear.

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I suppose this is Mirajane in the same arc as Erza when she was against them

R1 : Mirajane high diff

R2 : Mirajane extreme diff

R3 : Mirajane high diff

R4 : Ajeel mid diff

R5 : Irene no diff

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I suppose this is Mirajane in the same arc as Erza when she was against them

R1 : Mirajane high diff

R2 : Mirajane extreme diff

R3 : Mirajane high diff

R4 : Ajeel mid diff

R5 : Irene no diff

I’m curious on your thoughts on round 3. Mira has a problem with stamina and imo if she’s going to beat those two, she’ll have to finish off like say Kagura first which isn’t be easy at all

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I'd say Mira loses Round 3, 4 and 5

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RD 1) W

RD 2) W

RD 3) L

RD 4) L

RD 5) L

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Unfortunately mirajane doesn't have erza's power of bullshit so would clear upto round 4

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All of these villains pushed Erza to her limits, so I don't see Mira wins when she's way weaker than Erza.

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Unfortunately mirajane doesn't have erza's power of bullshit so would clear upto round 4

u mean "friendship"

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@citgo: yes power of friendship/bullshit whatever you call it.

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If Mirajane in the same arc as Erza:

1) Mira oneshots Edo-Erza (she hadn't any armor) like Freed using "Soul extinctor".

2) FP Mira oneshots Azuma with her nuke, because her base spell overcame his defense while Mira tried to save her mana.

3) Mira stomps Kagura in BSS (like Erza did the same, when became serious), then tanks Minerva's attack and blitzes her in Sitri like she did it with Jenny.

4) Mira. Macro GG.

5) Stops here. Duo die when Irene becomes Dragon.

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Technically Mira is Erza but without the plot armor. This means she might actually lose all those fights. Or win them if the writer thinks she can.

I'd say she has the potential to fare as well as Erza does, but I think she just won't be able to do anything to Irene.

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Mira can win all of the rounds except for 5

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@chaarrrt said:

Technically Mira is Erza but without the plot armor. This means she might actually lose all those fights. Or win them if the writer thinks she can.

Mira can't use PoF bcs her magic originates from negative emotions (curses, black arts, etc.)

By her writing and feats she pretty sure might win 1-4. She didn't even lose to Azuma, she just couldn't beat him in 3 minutes but damaged him by base spell while tried to save scraps of mana after spending her on using SS before on exam. And here she FP. Azuma, which fights Mira = Azuma, which fights Erza (he used Tenru power only in the end), so she can beat him before he uses it, or Tenru power can protect her like Erza due to her guild's mark.

Kagura was beaten by Erza w/o SO, so it was actually Tenru Erza, which had inferior feats to Mira. Minerva was uncomfortable opponent for Erza due to her ranged attacks. Healthy Erza tanked her strongest spell in the beginning 3v3, but couldn't tank Azuma, while Mira did. So, Mira can tank anything of Minerva spells, while Minerva can't tank her nukes, which able to destroy cities, when Mira was sixteen.

Edo-Erza hadn't any armor, while Erza was KOed by Jupiter and Mira nukes far stronger.

Macro is absolute and had feats, while Ajeel hadn't feats to resist mind control. She can also use Tempester's curse to counter his sand.

So, I can't see her losing 1-4.

I'd say she has the potential to fare as well as Erza does, but I think she just won't be able to do anything to Irene.

Mira and Wendy are not very comfortable opponents cuz Irene can't drains her CP besides MP while enchants don't negate curses, so she needs Dragon scales to resist curses and magic.

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@jk124 said:
@etherious said:

I suppose this is Mirajane in the same arc as Erza when she was against them

R1 : Mirajane high diff

R2 : Mirajane extreme diff

R3 : Mirajane high diff

R4 : Ajeel mid diff

R5 : Irene no diff

I’m curious on your thoughts on round 3. Mira has a problem with stamina and imo if she’s going to beat those two, she’ll have to finish off like say Kagura first which isn’t be easy at all

This is incorrect. Her stamina is normal after 3 month training, in GMG and Tartaros Mirajane repeatedly changed TakeOvers without being tired. Erza w/o SO tanked Minerva's strongest spell, but failed to do it with Azuma's base attacks, while Mira did. Kagura and Minerva can't tank something like "Soul extinctor", they haven't armor, while Erza was KOed in her strongest by Jupiter << "Soul extinctor". So, Mira takes it comfortably.

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@emperor99: That was me 7 months ago lol, I think Mira can win every fight except against Irene. Though she might actually still lose to Minerva since Erza needed an armor that cuts through magic to beat her.

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If current, beats all but Irene.

If concurrent, idrk

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clears except ajeel & irene

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@dimitri1220: Ok, l agree.

But there is no way that GMG Mira could lose to Minerva. Erza (and Kagura) tanked her strongest spell w/o armor in the beginning of the fight 3v3, while in the end she was highly injured and needed Nakagami to finish Minerva quickly. Nakagami only works on types of spatial magic (like Minerva's teleport), and Erza needed this advantage cuz she could really barely stand after Kagura treatment and couldn't dodge Minerva's anymore. it's obvious, that creator gave her Nakagami cuz he didn't want that Erza lagged far behind GMG Mira after her Tenru feats. Actually GMG Erza (before using SO) was Tenru Erza, which was beaten by Azuma before Tenru hellfire, while Mira technically didn't manage to win due to time limit while was weakend, but she was able to do it w/o time limit even with scraps of mana, because she stated it by herself, and it indirectly confirmed by fact that her base spell overcame his strongest shield and damaged him, so her strongest BSS attacks would kill him if they continued the fight. We saw that superior soul literally oneshots inferior soul, and after 3 month training Mira could use them without exhausting. So, GMG Mira actually was far stronger than GMG Minerva due to 3 month training, which equal SO boost, and superior souls, while healthy FP Minerva barely stomped injured Erza w/o armor before she activated SO to use Nakagami for a while.

Mira Sitri can stop a FP BSS blast, which destroyed abandoned city and some hills into surroundings, only using one hand, and tanked all Kamika's attacks (and she easily negated Natsu' roar) in human form, which stats equal to Erza w/o armor:

Difference between pre- GMG BSS and Sitri:

Difference between one of Mirajane's base spells and Minerva's strongest spell:

Difference between Jupiter (which KOed Erza in Adamantine) and BSS:

Also durability and defense depend on level of MP (due to Laxus', Erza' and Makarov statements), and it's laughable to see that BoS Mirajane's MP far exceeds the sum of three strongest female wizards in GMG:

So I think Minerva's attacks can't even scratch GMG Mira, while Kagura and Minerva are glass cannons and would be evaporazed by her nukes (Minerva dura <= Kagura dura = BoS Erza dura w/o armor <<< BoS Erza with Adamantine, which was destroyed by Jupiter and Jupiter << BSS nukes) cuz only ones who tanked her nuke and survived in whole series were J&H, which were strongest person enchants in the verse.

If we are talking about current Mira, she oneshots current Minerva and Kagura like J&H by simple power scaling.

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I always thought Mira wasn't so far behind Erza in power

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@saxz said:

I always thought Mira wasn't so far behind Erza in power

Actually they are in the same league, while usually Mira shows better feats (like she did it in FF, Tenru and Tartaros) until Erza pulls some plot or PoF out of her ass, like she did with Azuma, Kyoka, Irene, etc.

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That pic of Mira is hot so she clears. JK, stops at Irene.

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She stops at Irene because Mira doesn't have Erza's friendship bullshit, with that she would one shot her

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lol at mira having better feats than erza, she's not even a little close to erza feats.

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Elf Ears looks sOoooooo cool

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@etherious: What Erza's feats were better in FF, Tenru or especially Tartaros?

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@etherious: What Erza's feats were better in FF, Tenru or especially Tartaros?

comparable in these arcs, but not in alvarez & 100yq

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@emperor99 said:

@etherious: What Erza's feats were better in FF, Tenru or especially Tartaros?

comparable in these arcs, but not in alvarez & 100yq

In FF, Tenru and Tartaros Mira had better feats for some reasons:

Erza had some trouble with Eva, the weakest legion member and then stalemated Laxus for a while using anti-lightning armor. Mirajane w/o training negated Freed's hax, which could stop anyone in the guild, and beat him by two base spells.

In Tenru Mirajane had a huge chance to beat Azuma w/o time limit, while was weakend and locked to weakest Soul. Erza was beaten by Azuma and all her armor was broken before Tenru power protected her and destroyed Azuma shield, letting Erza kill him.

In Tartaros Mira was able to beat Etherious Seilah, which is equal to Etherious Kyoka by stats, after got beating up in human form and hitting by blast, which was stronger than 500 Jupiter Cannons, twice (you can say, that Elfman saved her, but without Mirajane's Macro he wouldn't be there and couldn't beat Seilah, even weakend by Mira, without Macro empowering), and than helped Erza to beat Kyoka and overcome her curse, while Erza was stomped by Kyoka in her strongest armor and won even with "friendly" help only because she spent her life energy on Faces activation. Also Mira played key role destroying the laboratory and absorbing souls of already dead demons, she literally deprived them an opportunity to resurrect and fight again.

In Alvarez they were comparable until Erza used PoF to destroy Meteor, which doesn't correspond her real feats. Meteor is not even Irene's strongest spell, while J&H took a long time to create and were stronger than some spriggans in terms of AP. Erza beat Ajeel using advantage (anti-spatial armor against spatial magic) and Mirajane beat Jacob, while was highly injured and exhausted (before you will say that Jacob didn't use Transport, I remind that he used all other types of his magic, including stealth, invisible weapon, which could hurt even ghosts, his extrasensory abilities and excellent combat skills, while his defense, durability and other stats were good in terms of AP).

100yq Mirajane was under hypnosys after beating up by her siblings and didn't even fight seriously, lol. She didn't use Macro on Gray or take him over as soon as she made eye contact with him. Also, her TakeOvers grows at the same degree as other wizards like Erza or Laxus.

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She stops at Irene because Mira doesn't have Erza's friendship bullshit, with that she would one shot her

I think that Irene would have trouble in her human form, because enchantments like any kind of magic can't affect curse power, so she can't suck magic or soul out of Mira, while enchantmens don't negate something like Macro, but Dragon Irene still wins, although F.Rogue and WW already undermind dragons' reputation.

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@etherious said:
@emperor99 said:

@etherious: What Erza's feats were better in FF, Tenru or especially Tartaros?

comparable in these arcs, but not in alvarez & 100yq

In FF, Tenru and Tartaros Mira had better feats for some reasons:

Erza had some trouble with Eva, the weakest legion member and then stalemated Laxus for a while using anti-lightning armor. Mirajane w/o training negated Freed's hax, which could stop anyone in the guild, and beat him by two base spells.

In Tenru Mirajane had a huge chance to beat Azuma w/o time limit, while was weakend and locked to weakest Soul. Erza was beaten by Azuma and all her armor was broken before Tenru power protected her and destroyed Azuma shield, letting Erza kill him.

In Tartaros Mira was able to beat Etherious Seilah, which is equal to Etherious Kyoka by stats, after got beating up in human form and hitting by blast, which was stronger than 500 Jupiter Cannons, twice (you can say, that Elfman saved her, but without Mirajane's Macro he wouldn't be there and couldn't beat Seilah, even weakend by Mira, without Macro empowering), and than helped Erza to beat Kyoka and overcome her curse, while Erza was stomped by Kyoka in her strongest armor and won even with "friendly" help only because she spent her life energy on Faces activation. Also Mira played key role destroying the laboratory and absorbing souls of already dead demons, she literally deprived them an opportunity to resurrect and fight again.

In Alvarez they were comparable until Erza used PoF to destroy Meteor, which doesn't correspond her real feats. Meteor is not even Irene's strongest spell, while J&H took a long time to create and were stronger than some spriggans in terms of AP. Erza beat Ajeel using advantage (anti-spatial armor against spatial magic) and Mirajane beat Jacob, while was highly injured and exhausted (before you will say that Jacob didn't use Transport, I remind that he used all other types of his magic, including stealth, invisible weapon, which could hurt even ghosts, his extrasensory abilities and excellent combat skills, while his defense, durability and other stats were good in terms of AP).

100yq Mirajane was under hypnosys after beating up by her siblings and didn't even fight seriously, lol. She didn't use Macro on Gray or take him over as soon as she made eye contact with him. Also, her TakeOvers grows at the same degree as other wizards like Erza or Laxus.

don't care about PoF, feats are feats, and she has much better feats in alvarez and 100yq

agree with FF & tenru

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Irene simply turns Mira into a mouse most likely...

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@morningstar999: Can Irene turn someone, like Bloodman, for example, into a mouse? Do I need to remind you, why August, which literally knew all about magic, copied all Twelwe's abilities except, Larcade, Irene, GS and Bloodman?

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@etherious: We can't exclude PoF, when we try to compare two characters, while one of them often uses it and the other just even can't use it, lol. Erza's PoF is a real thing. Jellal and Zeref like Mirajane can't get access to it, and Zeref even explained why. They are all dark magic/ black arts users and their magic has only negative emotions, while PoF boost depends only on positive emotions. The only thing when Erza overshadowed her in Alvarez was Meteor and she cut using the same sword, which kill Azuma, because it was enchanted only to damage Irene.

J/H were only ones in the series, who were able to tank her nuke and survive. And then they got stomped. Fodder soldiers empowered by simple enchantments were able to give Erza some trouble.

Mira was only one person, who fought Spriggan partically w/o magic and also she hadn't any advantages to beat him while had a huge disadvantage. Gildarts, Mirajane, Laxus and Natsu hadn't any advantages to beat Spriggan, while Erza countered Spriggan's magic, "enraged" Gray actually countered Invel's ice and Invel was a fodder in h2h.

In Tartaros even PoF couldn't help Erza to beat Kyoka and overcome her curse (hint, one curse can negate another curse), actually it literally were girls trio (Erza, Mirajane and Minerva) against Kyoka. Ironically, the fact, that Erza was affected by Kyoka's Historia, destroyed some people's representation that Erza overcame it in Tartaros "cuz she is Erza", lol.

If girl fought and beat a guy, who fodderized someone in one league with people, which usually gives some trouble to Laxus, who barely stronger than Erza, being locked to her weakest form despite her opponent had an advantage to dodge her main attacks, I think this is a great feat, lol.

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Don't think Mirajane can cut a dragon, nor destroy a meteor with broken bones. Irene already cleaned her before, she'll do it again.

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@grandtoaa: Mirajane faced Irene without any mana. You need by far more AP to kill J/H, than destroy a meteor. Erza did it by the sword, which killed Azuma. It was enchanted by Wendy to cut Irene, not Meteor. Meteor is her BASE attack. Creating J/H spent by far more time cuz Irene couldn't create them again. And Irene is a master of enchantments in all terms. They tanked BSS strongest nuke attack, which could not be tanked by anyone in the series. (Analogy with Adamantine Erza and Jupiter, the second analogy with Jura and Brain, Jura was famous by his invincible defense but had a lot of trouble to stop his attack, and Brain/Zero/Joze are just users of dark magic/black arts, which was created by demons, while Mira is a "true" user of this power cuz she gets access to it by demon "souls"). Mirajane needed CP (Allegria soul) do destroy enchantments using simple blow, this mean that any type of enchant could not affect curses (also stated by Mard and other 9D that magic can not affect curse, and enchant is a kind of magic), so enchants can't negate Macro (indirectly confirmed that August could copy all types of Twelve's magic, except DS (Irene, GS) and CP (Bloodman, Larcade)), so Irene NEEDS Dragon form to beat her here, although we saw that mental manipulation already worked on dragons, just Macro still has not feats in this field. Just creator doesn't like OP, imagine Mira calls dragons to fight on her side 😂😂😂

P.S. What about my last question in "Laxus vs Mira vs Gray vs Wendy"?

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Mira wins round 1. She loses the other rounds.

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She wins all rounds but 5.

I honestly don't see how R3 is even debatable when Tenrou Erza was able to keep up with the likes of Kagura and Minerva and Mira before the 3 months training which was the equivalent of SO was at that level or higher.

Given how Mira did better than Azuma at a fraction of her power she high and mid diffs 1 and 2 respectively.

As for 4, I see it going the same way as Erza v Ajeel. Ajeel gets cocky then get sideswiped by Bisca, and either BSS or any form above finishes the job. Heck, I could see her soloing w/Alegria due to having the ability to vape away all the sand in the area with a power flex like she did the sea and the mountain structures in it.

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#43  Edited By JDogg

Even with PoF Erza still lost against Irene. Irene is not a winnable opponent for anyone in FT bar Natsu.

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Mira stops at Irene.

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#47  Edited By JDogg

@grandtoaa: Gildarts is not beating Irene. He had no chance against August (who was Irene's rival in human form) let alone an actual Dragon. Irene would clap him before he even knew what hit him.

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#48  Edited By Etherious

Gildarts def beat human irene, but loose against his dragon form. human irene don't rival august lol.

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@jdogg said:

She wins all rounds but 5.

I honestly don't see how R3 is even debatable when Tenrou Erza was able to keep up with the likes of Kagura and Minerva and Mira before the 3 months training which was the equivalent of SO was at that level or higher.

Exactly. Azuma destroyed even Armadura (which in fact stronger than Adamantine cuz of Mirajane's and Erza's statements) and knocked Erza down, while Mira tanked him. And Minerva's Yagdo Rigora (strongest, lol, spell) only slightly scrathed Tenrou Erza and Kagura. Mira Sitri just wouldn't feel it. People forgot that when Erza became serious, she literally finished Kagura by one hit. About SO, yeah, it was what I tried to say to my opponents, that 3 month traing allowed Mira, Laxus and Gajeel to unlock their SO (it just was a hard way cuz Ultear is only a time manipulator, not more), so ratio between them doesn't change since Tenrou. Lol, people usually make a mistake when think that TakeOvers become obsolete and Erza passes them like this is a computer game, while they should compare her armors with TakeOvers.

Given how Mira did better than Azuma at a fraction of her power she high and mid diffs 1 and 2 respectively.

Agree, but not sure about diffs cuz Jk124 wrote FP, and I understood by this that she can use superior form one time in the fight, like she did it with Halphas cuz it was actually BoS Mira, lol, but transformation process into superior form requirs by way more mana, so it was the reason why she failed to beat Azuma in time limit, but she probably could do it w/o timit limit or even w/time, but w/o transforamation on exam, cuz her mana just didn't have time to recover to that point w/o training. Mira just wanted reasonably save mana and evaluate Azuma's powers. Comparison of pentagrams in fights with Freed and Azuma differs at least 20 times or more (I already posted scans on one of threads). Actually, the fight with Azuma impressed me not only that base spell overcame his shield, but also bcs she showed an ability to absorb not only demonic powers, but just magic, lol. Vs Knightwalker I think the main problem would be her speed, but that girl even hadn't armor and concentrated on offense, while it is not a good idea to concentrate on offense while your opponent is someone like Mira, lol, so for me it seems like fight with Freed but with slightly more diff.

As for 4, I see it going the same way as Erza v Ajeel. Ajeel gets cocky then get sideswiped by Bisca, and either BSS or any form above finishes the job. Heck, I could see her soloing w/Alegria due to having the ability to vape away all the sand in the area with a power flex like she did the sea and the mountain structures in it.

I think that Tempester's or Jackal's curses can counter sand pretty well or what she did with Kamika's paper attacks in BSS, but it would a hard way. Also Seilah's Demon Eyes would be enough cuz it is not even a magic and that girl created a ultra-concentrated sphere using just a fraction of her power. I think Seilah was slightly underrated in raw power. So, Macro is simple way to win here.

@jdogg said:

Even with PoF Erza still lost against Irene. Irene is not a winnable opponent for anyone in FT bar Natsu.

I would say that human Irene would beat Natsu using separation enchant, but remembered that he still has END particles and CP already effortlessly destroyed strongest enchantments (J/H) and negated advanced Sky DS magic (Jackal vs Wendy's roar), while her Dragon body had a disadvantage against DS magic.

About Mira I'm sure that separation would be useless cuz of CP, and with inferior souls it maximum would be like Mary's attempt, not more. And Macro just still has no feats in this field, although hype of Dragons' menthal invincibility was already undermind at least twice. So, I wrote that Dragon Irene wins.

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Gildarts def beat human irene, but loose against his dragon form. human irene don't rival august lol.

Probably cuz Irene could not copy magic unlike August. But she can win if uses separation first.