Minato vs Katakuri (naruto vs one piece)

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#1  Edited By GohanDorado

Can Katakuri's CoO help him keep up with the fastest character in the narutoverse ?

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1. Minato cannot go tailed beast mode(so Katakuri can actually harm him) This means the chakra cloak is allowed but that giant Kurama avatar isn't

2. Katakuri can only use Haki on his limbs and weapons he can even use it for his awakening attacks like Chikara mochi, but he cannot use it on his torso or head(this is so minato can actually harm him since CoA seems to have unlimited durability to those with a lower level/without).

3. Frog/toad summonings are banned. Shadow clones are allowed

4: minato is familiar with this forest and already has FTG seals on all of the trees

5: minato is not Edo

6: Characters have access to their basic tools

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who wins and why ?

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Katakuri. He can still see into the future which counters minato's teleportation and is physically superior by a lot.

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Minato isn't the fastest character in the Narutoverse.

With that said his DC is shit without TBM amping him so I don't see him beating Katakuri.

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#4  Edited By GohanDorado
@socajunkie said:

Minato isn't the fastest character in the Narutoverse.

I remember hearing from someone that Kishimoto said or at least a data book confirmed that he was. It makes sense when you read up on him and what he was known for. Also Edo's are generally slower and weaker than their real life counter parts

With that said his DC is shit without TBM amping him so I don't see him beating Katakuri.

Don't get them mixed up he still has access to the Nine tails chakra cloak in pic related

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Katakuri

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Minato has far superior DC. Besides seeing into the future ain't gonna help Katakuri if his body can't keep up.

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Katakuri stomps.

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Minato...

With kyuubi chakra he can spam bunshin + hiraisin + rasengan

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@b_r023:

His body most certainly can keep up. He was able to completely avoid Gear Fourth Luffy, his speed plus knowing everything Minato will do make it a stomp in his favor. Not to mention he has far superior stamina and durability.

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@lukundra: Luffy ain't as fast as Minato's teleportation. Minato speed stomps.

And OP didn't say anything about full knowledge.

Mianto still stomps

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@b_r023:

How does he have far superior DC? Lol

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@kingguinness: Rasengan's are better than punches lol.

Wouldn't matter anyway, Minato will take his head off before he even knows what's happening.

Besides, if all else fails, Reaper seal gg.

Minato wins no matter how much dislike it, no matter how much it hurts your feelings.

Have fun. Good day, ciao.

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@b_r023:

Katakuri will know where Minato will appear and what he will do before he even teleports due to his future vision. You're also ignoring Katakuri's massively superior defense and stamina compared to Minato. Minato will run out of chakra before Katakuri gets tired.

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@lukundra: Minato has the Kyuubi, how does he run out of chakra again?

Naruto's Kyuubi had enough to power the entire Shinobi alliance after fighting multiple Kage level shinobi and a bunch of Bijuu for almost two days.

Minato still wins.

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Katakuri. No BM means no Bijuu Bomb's, which means Minato will be hard pressed to hurt Katakuri and his teleportation gets hard countered by Katakuri's future sight, who's also easily comparable to Minato in speed, albeit still inferior.

Katakuri, on the other hand, can hurt Minato badly with only a few blows+his damage soak and endurance should be higher as well.

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@linglung said:

Minato...

With kyuubi chakra he can spam bunshin + hiraisin + rasengan

huh minato gets blitzed hes only a little bit above lightning speed

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#17  Edited By linglung

@thenewguysnm1: BASE minato?? A little bit above lightning speed??.. I dont think so...

But wait,, tired and low chakra Sasuke dodge his own Kirin,, and blind + tired itachi also react to it..

Yet,, raikage is still the fastest shinobi alive and BASE minato faster than raikage.. the same Base minato who faster than other Hokages,, including Hashi and Tobirama

And now we are talking about KCM Minato.. So how fast KCM minato?? This is my comparison

BASE Pre War arc Naruto is slow,, but with Kyuubi chakra he can moved faster than raikage ((the fastest shinobi alive)),, now think how fast Minato with kyuubi chakra,, who already faster than other Hokages in Base mode

And he has teleport + kyuubi sensing + bunshin + half kurama's chakra and OP said minato already has FTG seal on all trees..

Minato only need 1 touch and katakuri in big trouble

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Minato being a little lowballed here.

OT: Katakuri should win, Snakeman Luffy and Katakuri are slightlty below BSM Naruto IMO who should be a decent amount above Minato.

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Minato can win via sealing, but otherwise Kata is too tanky to bring down without his Beast Form.

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I am gonna side with Katakuri here.

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I think Minato takes it

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Let us assume Minato possess comparable physical strength to Tsunade. But pre timeskip Luffy dwarfs Tsunade in physical strength. Current Luffy is leagues stronger and katakuri overpowered Luffy. As for speed, Minato has teleportation but he needs Kunai to be there. Katakuri can see where he would appear next and can even attack him to where he dodges if he somehow evades Katakuri's blow. Armament haki, mochi powers and his crazy phisique can give katakuri better durability here. Movement speed might be comparable, if not katakuri might have an edge considering how he blitzed gear 2 Luffy.

In addition to all this, I don't think minato can tank or evade peerless donuts that seriously injured gear 4 Luffy.

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Katakuri one shot him with casual punch

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Minato

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He puts a seal on katakuri without him realizing it or sets it up to where he plays himself into a trap, and still gets a seal. Then he distracts and teleports randomly to cut his neck like he did obito

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@darkroseironavenger: nothingn happens without Katakuri realizing it. His CoO is that good. If Minato is winning it’s via Rasengan and he is going to need multiple shots at landing them. Cutting Katakuri is pointless with his CoO if he can just mold his body accordingly as seen when Luffy uses a Gatling on him.

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how is minato piercing Kata,also people forget minato cant surprise kata at all and he cant tank a single one of his attacks

i think this is spite

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#29  Edited By zxc6

@back_stabbath95 said:

@darkroseironavenger: nothingn happens without Katakuri realizing it. His CoO is that good. If Minato is winning it’s via Rasengan and he is going to need multiple shots at landing them. Cutting Katakuri is pointless with his CoO if he can just mold his body accordingly as seen when Luffy uses a Gatling on him.

The tiny and lame Rasengan of Minato not going to to shit to Kata,he can hit him as much as he want and that noting will happen,Minato has literally no way to harm him physically,this is huge stomp for Kata

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Seriously guys Minato can't win. If Kata wanted to troll him he could just stand still and tank EVERYTHING Minato throws at him. This Minato only has his speed going for him, which can be countered due to Kata's insane CoO, he does not have sufficient DC or durability to hang on here at all.

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@zxc6: can’t he do giant Rasengan? I’d argue Katakuri might feel that. Aside from that Minato doesn’t have what it takes imo. Dealing him is going to require contact and with Katakuri’s CoO there’s just no way he is going to really surprise him when Katakuri has already seen what he’s going to do before Minato himself knows what he’s going to do.

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1. Minato isn't the faster in the series.

2. Luffy isn't slightly below BSM Naruto at all. He's probably not even on BM Naruto's level.

That being said, this version of MInato probably loses. Nerfing Minato like this is kind of unfair since he'd probably end this fight quickly if it was BM.

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@zxc6: can’t he do giant Rasengan? I’d argue Katakuri might feel that. Aside from that Minato doesn’t have what it takes imo. Dealing him is going to require contact and with Katakuri’s CoO there’s just no way he is going to really surprise him when Katakuri has already seen what he’s going to do before Minato himself knows what he’s going to do.

Pretty sure he can't do this,and even if he could that won't harm Kata,he took hits way stronger than Rasengan without a scratch

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@zxc6: Rasengan isn't a normal attack it turns your insides to soup.

He also has Sage Art Rasengan which is more potent.

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@zxc6: Rasengan isn't a normal attack it turns your insides to soup.

He also has Sage Art Rasengan which is more potent.

Irrelevant since it not going to scratch Kata's Haki

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@zxc6: Speed wise Minato is on par with Hashirama, Madara, and BM Naruto...

I'm not on the bigmom arc yet but to my knowledge Katakuri doesn't cover his entire body.

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@zxc6: Speed wise Minato is on par with Hashirama, Madara, and BM Naruto...

I'm not on the bigmom arc yet but to my knowledge Katakuri doesn't cover his entire body.

Not really,Minato not even faster than A,he just can think fast,fast enough to teleport from A to B that the whole point of his combat style.

There is no need for him to cover his whole body in Haki

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@zxc6: Minato is faster than Ay I'm base, with KCM and SM he's much faster.

Fast enough to rival the ones I mentioned.

Katakuri can't block everything he's going to get marked and unless he can react in a instant he's getting tagged.

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#39  Edited By zxc6

@temporal_shift said:

@zxc6: Minato is faster than Ay I'm base, with KCM and SM he's much faster.

Fast enough to rival the ones I mentioned.

Katakuri can't block everything he's going to get marked and unless he can react in a instant he's getting tagged.

Minato not faster than A,he never was able to dodge A's attacks,he just can perceive him and think to teleport before A reach him,that how this always went.

Yes... no,Kata block and dodge every single attack of Luffy for more than 6 hours effortlessly,Minato never going to tag Kata,way too slow and Kata will see everything he will try

Also let not forgot that this "fight" literally will over in an instant since Minato will get one shot by one punch of Kata,on the other hand Minato has no way to harm him physically,his physical strength is a joke and his mere rasengan not going to harm Kata's Haki at all,same about his Kunai

What does "everything" mean? Minato can't spam dozen of rasengan

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@zxc6:

1.) Puffy can't teleport and is rather predictable attacking from the front.

2.) Minato has Kurama he can spam for longer than 6 hours.

3.) Ay was never able to tag Minato, and stated himself to be slower than Minato in base.....

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#41  Edited By zxc6

@temporal_shift said:

@zxc6:

1.) Puffy can't teleport and is rather predictable attacking from the front.

2.) Minato has Kurama he can spam for longer than 6 hours.

3.) Ay was never able to tag Minato, and stated himself to be slower than Minato in base.....

1) Which not matter at all and completely irrelevant,Kata will see everything Minato will try,he will already see when and where Minato teleport BEFORE it happen,Minato never going to tag him

2) Same about Kata,although this not really matter since the fight will over quickly and Kata will stomp him due to the fact he also has higher speed and physical strength

3) Minato has better perception-that all,he never was comparable to A's speed,he never was able to dodge even once from A's attacks

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@zxc6:

1) doesn't matter if he can see it or not, when has he ever reacted to instant movement? He would have to process what he saw, move his body, and brace himself... All before Minato teleports which is instant.

2.) How is Kata "stomping" Minato has Kurama cloak and SM he's like a teleporting brick now

3.) He did dodge Ay, and Ay admitted he was slower.

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@zxc6 said:
@temporal_shift said:

@zxc6:

1.) Puffy can't teleport and is rather predictable attacking from the front.

2.) Minato has Kurama he can spam for longer than 6 hours.

3.) Ay was never able to tag Minato, and stated himself to be slower than Minato in base.....

1) Which not matter at all and completely irrelevant,Kata will see everything Minato will try,he will already see when and where Minato teleport BEFORE it happen,Minato never going to tag him

2) Same about Kata,although this not really matter since the fight will over quickly and Kata will stomp him due to the fact he also has higher speed and physical strength

3) Minato has better perception-that all,he never was comparable to A's speed,he never was able to dodge even once from A's attacks

Sorry for butting in, but your 3rd sentence is blatantly wrong. Ay himself admitted that he was slower than Minato. He says to Naruto "there has been no faster Shinobi. Not since the 4th Hokage" which is an admission that he was slower. You're going against what was said in the series. Base Minato's Speed>>Raikage. That's just a fact.

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@zxc6:

1) doesn't matter if he can see it or not, when has he ever reacted to instant movement? He would have to process what he saw, move his body, and brace himself... All before Minato teleports which is instant.

2.) How is Kata "stomping" Minato has Kurama cloak and SM he's like a teleporting brick now

3.) He did dodge Ay, and Ay admitted he was slower.

1) He can see when and where Minato will teleport before it will happen and before Minato will even think about it,he never going to harm\tag Kata

2) Minato never show to be able to use use SM and Kurama together,only Naruto.

Kata superior to Minato in every physical aspect.

3) Minato never dodge A in the series

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@zxc6: So you've never read Naruto? 10-4

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@zxc6:

1.) Puffy can't teleport and is rather predictable attacking from the front.

2.) Minato has Kurama he can spam for longer than 6 hours.

3.) Ay was never able to tag Minato, and stated himself to be slower than Minato in base.....

I think Luffy realized his attacks were too predictable for Katakuri's CoO iirc he was genuinely surprised that Katakuri could not only perceive his Gatling attack but also use his mocha at the same time to mold his body around each punch and as you know from a Gatling there is a lot of punches. He resorts to using Snakeman who's attacks are faster than regular G4 and less predictable in the form of Python which is a fast version of Culverin and was able to hit Katakuri enough times to seal the deal. Katakuri was still able to react to his initial pythons but was getting tagged due to their speed + Luffy advancing his own CoO.

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#47  Edited By zxc6

@back_stabbath95 said:
@temporal_shift said:

@zxc6:

1.) Puffy can't teleport and is rather predictable attacking from the front.

2.) Minato has Kurama he can spam for longer than 6 hours.

3.) Ay was never able to tag Minato, and stated himself to be slower than Minato in base.....

I think Luffy realized his attacks were too predictable for Katakuri's CoO iirc he was genuinely surprised that Katakuri could not only perceive his Gatling attack but also use his mocha at the same time to mold his body around each punch and as you know from a Gatling there is a lot of punches. He resorts to using Snakeman who's attacks are faster than regular G4 and less predictable in the form of Python which is a fast version of Culverin and was able to hit Katakuri enough times to seal the deal. Katakuri was still able to react to his initial pythons but was getting tagged due to their speed + Luffy advancing his own CoO.

The only reason Luffy was able to tag Kata in Snakeman is due to the fact that Kata wasn't clam anymore(since he stabed himself and he lost blood for hours) and therefore his haki didn't work at 100% and also his Kenbunshoku Haki got weaker and he probably want to give Luffy a fair fight,not like in the begining when he just dodge everything,he got respect to him at that point

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#48  Edited By Raziel2014

spite, minato gets killed the moment a hit lands on him, his teleportation is even more limited than Laws via DF, it requires kunais and with Katakuri prediction the moment he sees minato appearing near the kunai the secret is out and even then teleport does not equa instant attack, minato appears but then requires his own speed to attack, with katakuri Haki minato cant even fight him in close combat and anything short of TBB wont even scratch the dude

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Minato has far better portrayal, reputation and feats also much more versatile. And Katakuri's observation haki lacks in 1vs1 we saw that against Snakeman... Minato much more faster and clever than Luffy. And once Minato gonna tag Katakuri, Katakuri's own attacks could turn himself too.

Minato got this.

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#50  Edited By zxc6

@utkanflash said:

Minato has far better portrayal, reputation and feats also much more versatile. And Katakuri's observation haki lacks in 1vs1 we saw that against Snakeman... Minato much more faster and clever than Luffy. And once Minato gonna tag Katakuri, Katakuri's own attacks could turn himself too.

Minato got this.

Did you even read One Piece? he was able to tag Kata only due to the fact that Kata wasn'tcompletely calm anymore since he stab himself and lost blood for hours+his Haki got weaker after 10+ hours,claiming Minato can tag Kata just because Snakeman tag Kata is an horrible example,not to mention Snakeman is far faster than Minato