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Random encounter, starts 20 m apart in the Seireitei
Perfect teamwork
Current Sins
Fight starts 10 minutes before noon
Actually a decent fight for once.
I believe the OP team has the edge in overall power at the start of the fight, but the Sins strongest are still faster and if Escanor goes into ONE (or hell, Ultimate ONE form) then it starts to be getting out of reach. Gowther if not down by then will use his hax, and if his hax (or Merlin's while we're on it) takes effect it's all over.
Though, I believe only Meliodas, Escanor & Ban (maybe King) would take hits from the One Piece team.
Current Sins? So, no Escanor and no Demon King Meliodas? Anyway, arguments can be made for Ban and King being enough to handle this, if they get serious quickly. No one on the opposing team has an answer to stat stealing coupled with Fox Hunt and bombardment from Sunflower.
@hittheassasin: Meliodas as of the last fight and Escanor with fight starting from late noon
@shirso: Oh, I see. Well, I don't see the team being able to defeat Demon King Meliodas, so that'd just be the nail in the coffin.
Demon King Meliodas solos. The one ultimate Escanor can arguably solo, but he would at least give them hell.
The demon king in Meliodas’ body has the feats to say he would give this team trouble, if not outright win. Base Meliodas and Ban are both around his level.
Demon King Meliodas solos. The one ultimate Escanor can arguably solo, but he would at least give them hell.
The demon king in Meliodas’ body has the feats to say he would give this team trouble, if not outright win. Base Meliodas and Ban are both around his level.
LMFAO
@yray: How is that funny?
The Demon King in Meliodas’ body has feats that put him on par with the best of One Piece.
When in Zeldris’ body, the Demon King said it wasn’t much worse than Meliodas’. Meliodas proceeded to thrash him while in base. Then the demon king powered up. Then Meliodas used his demon mark and thrashed him again. Then the demon king got another power up, and the one Escanor fought on par with him, and the one ultimate was beating on him. It took an attack that was at least mid sized country level to take the demon king out, and it was flat out stated Meliodas with his original magic was even stronger than the demon king at full power.
Op team stomps
bullet alone would be more than enough for ban and any version of escanor
Fuji crushes the physically weak ones ,king,gowther,and Elizabeth since that's his very first go to move IC
IF mihawk gets stampede feats he adds far more fire power
Leaving the 4 admirals,mihawk and wb Vs Mel, Merlin and fodder Dian
DK Mel solos with difficulty. Even if they get him down on his last legs(unlikely with his stats and versatility), none of the OP team have the feats to tank a revenge counter comprised of the accumulation of several admiral level characters' attacks.
One Piece team should win with high difficulty from what I know of the Sins. None of them are as strong as Whitebeard or as fast as Kizaru, and Bullet is a handful on his own.
Dk in Mel's body iirc best physical feats were matching and tanking blows from ban which were island lvl,it's funny because that's the lvl of base bullet awakened bullet at full power is way above that (solid country lvl)
Wb, mihawk and the admirals are at island lvl+ (for now due to lack of feats and screen time ) whereas the sins have some dead weight on their side and glass canons
why bullet would be more than enough for ban and escanor? Well both are at a huge disadvantage when facing him since they don't have flight ,the entire battlefield can be reshaped and manipulated to what bullet wants with his awakening alone , {he could continuously create large mountains to obstruct them while he makes a gigantic country lvl punch for them } both ban and escanor have no noteworthy travel speed feats to help them here
escanors best DC/AOE feat was like mountain sized and ban with his punch doesn't have the AP to completely pulverise colossal golem bullet which is necessary since bullet can keep on regenerating
And also stats steal won't work on colossal bullet since the golem is being piloted by bullet ,ban and escanor has the AP(island- small country lvl) to hurt colossal bullet but can't completely pulverise it,only way they can win {assuming they can get past bullets awakening} is to get to bullets main body which I fail to see since they lack flight or adequate travel speed to do so
Fujitora gravity crushes IC and it's his opening move most of the time something merlin,king, Elizabeth and gowther have no answer to { they would already be crushed be they pull out any hax since it's not their beginning go to move like Fuji which can be done by a simple thought or flex}if kizaru ain't jobbing he blitz the hell outta them
And I know it's a thing in CV to hand wave observation Haki like it doesn't exist but it does
Dk in Mel's body iirc best physical feats were matching and tanking blows from ban which were island lvl,
Yes, and those were just regular attacks and they didn't do much damage at all. And like I said, that's base Meliodas tier. His demon king form is 3 forms past that.
it's funny because that's the lvl of base bullet awakened bullet at full power is way above that (solid country lvl)
Bullet wasn't island level until his massive from.
Wb, mihawk and the admirals are at island lvl+ (for now due to lack of feats and screen time )
Whitebeard is island+, but the admirals don't have anything that puts them above island level. And devil fruit AOE doesn't translate to attack potency. The fact that Fujitora didn't even break through Doflamingo's strings doesn't look good for them either.
whereas the sins have some dead weight on their side and glass canons
It doesn't matter if the dead weight or glass canons get killed. Plus King would protect them anyways.
@sup3rn0va: His best feat is "splitting an island" and he barely even split it. So basically none.
Yes, and those were just regular attacks and they didn't do much damage at all. And like I said, that's base Meliodas tier. His demon king form is 3 forms past that.
Uh...same goes for bullet in base he could spam punches on KKG LVL (small island lvl+) which he could also tank aloooottt of be going down and awakened bullet is also 3 tiers above that ..2nd form colossal bullet>>1st form colossal bullet>>Exoskeleton bullet >> base bullet
Bullet wasn't island level until his massive from.
Sigh here we go again with your downplay, you totally ignore AP, statements and scaling just to downplay the op side but use dubious and sketchy inconsistent scaling and statements for the sins..if we're going to go that route same statements, scaling and feats prove the sins aren't even past island lvl
The DK got oneshoted by a fraction of a country busting attack (proof he's not even country lvl)
Each of the sins are individually weaker than him (definitely not past island lvl)
Whitebeard is island+, but the admirals don't have anything that puts them above island level. And devil fruit AOE doesn't translate to attack potency. The fact that Fujitora didn't even break through Doflamingo's strings doesn't look good for them either.
Akainu matched his quake punch and took 2 blows from it and survived aokiji could match him for 10 days and barely lost to him so they scale to each other in physicals apart from the obvious fact that they already should, and how does Fuji not being able to break one of doffys strongest defense with his casual attack prove anything here?
It doesn't matter if the dead weight or glass canons get killed. Plus King would protect them anyways.
B4 or after he's crushed to dust ?
Uh...same goes for bullet in base he could spam punches on KKG LVL (small island lvl+) which he could also tank aloooottt of be going down and awakened bullet is also 3 tiers above that ..2nd form colossal bullet>>1st form colossal bullet>>Exoskeleton bullet >> base bullet
Ban's feat<=>King Kong Gun. Ban's feat was casual.
Sigh here we go again with your downplay, you totally ignore AP, statements and scaling just to downplay the op side
Ok, so lets say Bullet can survive a while against a barrage of small island level attacks. They were still clearly hurting him and he needed armament haki to even tank the blows at all. Ban can fire off multiple punches that strong based off of his feat, and like I said, demon king Meliodas is tiers above that level.
but use dubious and sketchy inconsistent scaling and statements for the sins..
The demon king has better on panel feats than anyone in one piece. Meliodas is on par with him. There is no scaling needed, it is just a bonus.
if we're going to go that route same statements, scaling and feats prove the sins aren't even past island lvl
It took a country level attack to beat the demon king. It was visually country level. Meliodas was stated to be stronger than the demon king.
The DK got oneshoted by a fraction of a country busting attack (proof he's not even country lvl)
Fraction of a country busting attack? He was at the center of the blast and it was clearly country sized, plus it was made smaller due to the lake that absorbed the energy.
Each of the sins are individually weaker than him (definitely not past island lvl)
Meliodas was confirmed stronger than him.
But I agree, none of the sins besides Meliodias is past island level.
The way I see it.
large island to small country level: Demon King/Demon King Meliodas/prime Whitebeard
mid sized island level: giant Bullet/the one ultimate Escanor/AM Meliodas
small island level: gear 4 Luffy with king kong gun/admirals with current feats/base Bullet/Ban/base Meliodas
OT: Can Gear 4 beat base Meliodas?
Depends on versions
@sup3rn0va: His best feat is "splitting an island" and he barely even split it. So basically none.
How is splitting an island even island level?
Toneri splitting the moon which is actually far more impressive since it's a sphere and he did it from the inside was at best continental.
Based purely on feats, this should actually be a very good fight. Team OP has some beasts in terms of power and physicals but I still lean towards the Sins, who still outclass them in DC and definitely in hax and versatility.
Ban, Mel and Escanor lead the frontal assault, Diane starts dancing to support their power and changes the landscape to redirect attacks when necessary, King provides artillery support and shields when necessary, Merlin casts more buffs, could cause havoc with teleportation combos or uses automatic motion-sensing spells on the OP team and Gowther tries mind hacking them, which I don't believe any of them have shown resistance to. If all else fails, they have a country-busting team attack to rely on.
Based on hype, DK Mel alone might solo. It was explicitly stated he surpassed the DK and it took said country-buster to actually kill his old man.
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