Might Guy vs Gear 5 Luffy

• Characters use all their powers and abilities.
• Characters don't know each other.
• Guy uses 8 Gates with no time limit.

Who wis win?

Luffy wins, he's stacked with so many abilities now. I really cant see Gai winning this.

Luffy is far too fast for Gai. If Gai is able to land a hit though, he clearly dies.

Guy

Luffy

Luffy folds

Just one evening elephant and game over for luffy

1. Guy can't damage Luffy cause he's immune to blunt damage
2. Luffy outstats the shit out of Guy even before Gear 5
3. Haki GG

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

Luffy low diffs

Luffy blitzes

Luffy stomps

Luffy wins but I don't see how Luffy is faster.

Might Guy scales above 4 supercharged Juubidamas.

How the hell is Luffy beating him? Guy blitz and erases him from existence with one sekizo.

Gai stomp.

@xebec said:

Gai solos the verse with his striking feats, but he’s never catching Luffy.

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Night Guy is not even KKG level, let alone close to Bajrang Gun, Flaming Bagua etc.

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

Luffy claps in base

Guy is a glass cannon. I’d back luffy for having more consistent displays of power. Future sight is the mvp here, it counters guy going for a blitz

@xebec:

Night Guy is not even KKG level, let alone close to Bajrang Gun, Flaming Bagua etc.

He has near multi-continental striking power after shattering and punching Juubidara through his TSO shields. These shields scale above other shields that could tank continental Juubi bombs.

(Naruto, Chapter 669:)

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I think even G4 Luffy has near country-level stats for casually ripping through Doffy’s birdcage strings, but Gai out-stats him overall.

@morghulis: base luffy and 1st form hybrid kaido scales above old wb who has quake feats at continental tier ..drunkphase + 2nd hybrid kaido and gears luffy are easily MC tier.. nika luffy and blazing dragon kaido are even much stronger than that. GUY doesn't really have any stats advantage here

@morghulis said:

@xebec:

Night Guy is not even KKG level, let alone close to Bajrang Gun, Flaming Bagua etc.

He has near multi-continental striking power after shattering and punching Juubidara through his TSO shields. These shields scale above other shields that could tank continental Juubi bombs.

(Naruto, Chapter 669:)

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I think even G4 Luffy has near country-level stats for casually ripping through Doffy’s birdcage strings, but Gai out-stats him overall.

Why do people never consider the usual basic potency arguments when debating Naruto smh. Gai punched a human sized hole through a TSB, the entire surface of a much bigger TSB tanked a fraction of the energy of 4 Juubidamas. This is how you end up with nonsensical scaling like BSM Naruto = 50% of 4 super charged Juubidamas from Juubito.

It’s not continental, it’s small-country by calculations, and then again how would they scale above or to a feat that was based on quakes and tsunamis? Their physicals don’t get there due to that.

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Guy

Using that logic for fiction is not very consistent. With it you can disregard most explosion type feats of any level.

So, no Planetary+ scaling for Frieza and others.

@greythejiren: DB characters have feats of tanking or overpowering focused blasts so no. Raditz no sold a blast from a stronger Piccolo that did the moon bust.

@shirso: I’m not talking about the TSB’s tanking a Bijuu bomb, I’m talking about them scaling above shields that can tank them.

@morghulis: You mean the 4 Hokage's Crimson Ray Barrier? Shouldn't the same arguments apply? That barrier was huge and it's entire surface tanked that energy, while Gai only punched a human sized hole in a TSB.

@shirso said:

I thought one of the barriers took the explosion on the inside?

@morghulis: They did, both Juubito's as well as the 4 Hokage's, but what does that change?

@shirso said:

Not much. If this is what you’re suggesting, then what tier do you put the feat of breaking the TSB shield?

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@morghulis: Idk, it wouldn't be anything impressive considering how much smaller a human is compared to the size of Crimson Ray Barriers. I scale Gai differently, like being able to seriously hurt Juubidara alone when the 2nd form Juubi no sold its Juubidama exploding inside its stomach warrants multi continental levels of power considering Juubidara >>> 2nd form Juubi.

@takenstew22: Wasn't Piccolo's PL higher when he fought Raditz as compared to when he moon busted? Correct me if I am wrong as I am hardly a DB expert.

@shirso said:

That seems like more solid scaling. And fair too.

The barriers contained the explosion, so they took the entire force. The scaling is fine.

Well, I also agree with that, if I were to think by that line of reasoning, Obito wouldn't even have used his TSB to protect himself from the 4 super bijuudama since his own durability would be able to tanked it, since Juubi in the second form tanked his own bijuudama inside his stomach and Obito is more resistant than him and the energy that Obito would have to tank from the 4 Bijuudamas using the inverse square law would certainly be much lower than the energy that the Juubi had to tank from his own bijuudama in his stomach, not even Kishimoto himself should have had that in mind.

Naruto also tanked a concentrated Juubi Laser and the Shinju, both above what Luffy can output, and this Gai scales above BM/BSM Naruto.

@heroxxxx: I mean, why try tanking with your body if you have an option otherwise? Also Juubito is stronger than the Juubi but Juubito's supercharged Juubidamas are also >>> the standard Juubidama that the 2nd form Juubi tanked inside itself, and there were 4 of them, so there's that too.

His PL went higher when he used Special Beam Cannon. Otherwise it was the same Piccolo and he only got stronger overall post-training.

The Blast directly hit one side of the barrier and the side wasn't Destroyed , nothing was destroyed and the databook also implies the Hokage barrier was above V3 Juubidamas

If anything, it's the other way around. Piccolo busted the moon after the Raditz fight during the first night of Gohan's training. Reasonably, Piccolo was at the same level of power as he was during his fight with Raditz since he only had hours to train.

BSM Naruto and KCM Minato tanked the Shinju expanding directly on top of them. Both are inside the barrier, which you can now see is entirely dwarfed by the Shinju, and it's still growing, so you can't say it never fully hit them.

What's impressive about this feat is that these roots span the entire globe meaning those roots can smash through the mantle of a giant planet and reach every corner of the world in moments.

To say this feat for BSM Naruto is Multi Continental would be an understatement, and I don't think I need to explain why someone who can paste Juudara would also paste BSM Naruto.

@thenamelessone: Check out what I just posted.

Luffy can't be hurt because he's made of rubber, and plus he'll always be a step ahead of Gai. He low diffs

yea I agree with the feat being really high and overlooked , for this one scan

the amount of kinectic energy was lowballed Multi continental , and the Roots weren't destroyed on hitting the mantle at that speed , solidifies the Argument furthur , also the MC meta can be furthur made consistant with the chakra arm/TSO being overpowered by Father-son meta , nice find.

@thenamelessone: And BM Naruto tanking a Jubi Laser.

@wk_decaff: also the last chakra canon feats where the attack was just powered by less then a hundred ninja and raikage/bee , vaporizing an entire chain of meteors around a massive planet , a chain that was visibly around the entire planet from Moon and it was all vaped in one go

Gallery

BSM may be above as his cloak amplified thousands by three times in the war , in comparasion to the hundreds here and Kurama chakra + amplified sage mode is > bijuu level and a hundred featless fodders anyway ( 50 percent kurama > 4-5 tailed beasts ) .

@thenamelessone said:

@wk_decaff: also the last chakra canon feats where the attack was just powered by less then a hundred ninja and raikage/bee , vaporizing an entire chain of meteors around a massive planet , a chain that was visibly around the entire planet from Moon and it was all vaped in one go

Gallery

BSM may be above as his cloak amplified thousands by three times in the war , in comparasion to the hundreds here and Kurama chakra + amplified sage mode is > bijuu level and a hundred featless fodders anyway ( 50 percent kurama > 4-5 tailed beasts ) .

Meteor feat was calced Moon level solidly

High Multi Continental at an absolute lowball

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dariel_Senju/Naruto_-_Chakra_Cannon_Feat_Calc

Luffy kills him