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#1 Edited by ThanosPimphand (705 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Posted by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

1- Yes

2- Not unless he can suddenly hit Logias.

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#3 Edited by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

He can kill evreyone then blitzes Whitebeard for the hell of it

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#4 Posted by katanalauncher (3592 posts) - - Show Bio

He can take on both sides and win.

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#5 Posted by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah he can save ace, but he can't hit logias due to having no haki, so he can't make whitebeard win the war

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#6 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

off topic but the ichigo wank was off the charts there.

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#7 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah he can save ace, but he can't hit logias due to having no haki, so he can't make whitebeard win the war

hes punches vaporize their elements

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#8 Edited by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol: Good luck vaporizing an element with no mass.

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#9 Posted by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:

yeah he can save ace, but he can't hit logias due to having no haki, so he can't make whitebeard win the war

hes punches vaporize their elements

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#10 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:

yeah he can save ace, but he can't hit logias due to having no haki, so he can't make whitebeard win the war

hes punches vaporize their elements

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he won't vaporize Kizaru but he vaporizes everyone else the heat form his punches turned Madara a character far more Durable than anyone in one piece into paste

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#11 Edited by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol: you do realize Akainu is made of magma, right?

just nitpicking though

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#12 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio
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#13 Edited by IceDemonKing (9982 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy shows them how to blitz the right way

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#14 Posted by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio
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#15 Posted by Lejon (2946 posts) - - Show Bio

The thread is already turning bad.

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#16 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:

@jadenlol: you do realize Akainu is made of magma, right?

magma can still be vapourised

scans that confirm the heat of Guy's punches?

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it turned madara body into paste someone who is more durable than juubito who was tanking Bijuu bombs which can desotry mountains that enough for me.

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#17 Posted by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

Th vaporisation argument, the stupidest argument against Logias to hit the Vine. Anyway, the only Admiral that gets vaped is Kuzan, the others stay intact.

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#18 Edited by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@full123 said:

Th vaporisation argument, the stupidest argument against Logias to hit the Vine. Anyway, the only Admiral that gets vaped is Kuzan, the others stay intact.

so your telling me if a bijuu bomb hit him something that can vaporise mountains wouldn't vaporise akuinu unless hes magma is as hot as the sun he dies

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#19 Posted by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol: again, Akainu's body is composed entirely of magma, not flesh and bone like madara's was (albeit not normal flesh and bone since he's a manga character). You are talking about vaporizing an already extremely hot substance. You need to post a temperature for his punches if you want to stick to that argument

Right now, you have jack

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#20 Edited by juiceboks (24749 posts) - - Show Bio

In character he'll get blitzed and oneshotted by Kizaru before he opens the 8th gate, but he can save Ace at least.

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#21 Edited by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackestnight93 said:

@jadenlol: again, Akainu's body is composed entirely of magma, not flesh and bone like madara's was (albeit not normal flesh and bone since he's a manga character). You are talking about vaporizing an already extremely hot substance. You need to post a temperature for his punches if you want to stick to that argument

Right now, you have jack

this is fiction Madara flesh and blood became strong enough to withstand bijuu bombs meaning the amount of heat to turn it into paste would need to be much hotter than it takes to vaporise magma

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#22 Posted by Cosmic_Lantern (5668 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely no one on the island could even comprehend him coming their way, Night moth puts Kizaru to shame also. He wouldn't even have to touch them, the sheer shockwave from his punches create vacuums of air that dwarf mountain ranges. Ice shatters, Magma cools, ect....

Also Chakra = Haki, by basic definition physical and spiritual energy. Even Orochimaru shows signs of what would be called "conquerors haki" here in part1:

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#23 Posted by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol: how is the explosion caused by a biju bomb? I don't recall a temperature ever being stated for it.

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#24 Edited by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackestnight93 said:

@jadenlol: how is the explosion caused by a biju bomb? I don't recall a temperature ever being stated for it.

it was hot enough to vaporize mountains so that implies more heat than akuinu could ever withstand unless he shows his magam being is hot enough to vapourise mountains

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#25 Posted by Leo-343 (30909 posts) - - Show Bio

Jaden complaining about Bleach wank in the same thread he's wanking a Naruto character.

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#26 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@leo-343 said:

Jaden complaining about Bleach wank in the same thread he's wanking a Naruto character.

how is any of this wank

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#27 Posted by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@full123 said:

Th vaporisation argument, the stupidest argument against Logias to hit the Vine. Anyway, the only Admiral that gets vaped is Kuzan, the others stay intact.

so your telling me if a bijuu bomb hit him something that can vapourise mountains wouldn't vapouirise akuinu unless hes magma is as hot as the sun he dies

Bijuu bomb doesn't vaporise mountains. It rips them apart through pure explosive force. And again. Guess what? The temperature around a nuclear bomb shoot up to the heat of 10x the heat of the sun, yet even normal humans aren't vaporised by that. (Just extremely damaged and dead.) Same with lightning. Humans, normal humans, survive that. In explosions that produce pure heat like Bijuu bombs and nukes, the heat lasts for an infinitesmall amount of time. Hence why humans aren't instantly vaporised by them.

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#28 Posted by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:

@jadenlol: how is the explosion caused by a biju bomb? I don't recall a temperature ever being stated for it.

it was hot enough to vaporize mountains so that implies more heat than akuinu could ever withstand unless he shows his magam being is hot enough to vapourise mountains

This is most likely due to the explosive force they produce on impact, not the heat, unless you can show otherwise.

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#29 Edited by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmic_lantern: Nope. Try again. Haki is a power that exists within all humans in OP World. Chakra cokes from a magic space fruit given to ninjas by a magic space god.

On-topic. Yeah, Kizaru couldn't react to him, but Night Guy is NOT faster than light.

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#30 Edited by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@full123 said:
@jadenlol said:
@full123 said:

Th vaporisation argument, the stupidest argument against Logias to hit the Vine. Anyway, the only Admiral that gets vaped is Kuzan, the others stay intact.

so your telling me if a bijuu bomb hit him something that can vapourise mountains wouldn't vapouirise akuinu unless hes magma is as hot as the sun he dies

Bijuu bomb doesn't vaporise mountains. It rips them apart through pure explosive force. And again. Guess what? The temperature around a nuclear bomb shoot up to the heat of 10x the heat of the sun, yet even normal humans aren't vaporised by that. (Just extremely damaged and dead.) Same with lightning. Humans, normal humans, survive that. In explosions that produce pure heat like Bijuu bombs and nukes, the heat lasts for an infinitesmall amount of time. Hence why humans aren't instantly vaporised by them.

not really even volcano heat can completely vaporize a human ever heard of pompie the people skeleton were compeletley vaporized just by coming in close proximity of it people who survive nukes never enter its enclosure if the were hit theyd die instanlty from the blunt force and heat if the Bijuu bombs did vaporise the mountains if the did as you were saying the would have been some ruble left but the were completely gone

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#31 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:

@jadenlol: how is the explosion caused by a biju bomb? I don't recall a temperature ever being stated for it.

it was hot enough to vaporize mountains so that implies more heat than akuinu could ever withstand unless he shows his magam being is hot enough to vapourise mountains

This is most likely due to the explosive force they produce on impact, not the heat, unless you can show otherwise.

as i said the mountains were completely fried the explosion force would have left some rubble

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#32 Posted by Vertigo- (17683 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:
@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:

@jadenlol: how is the explosion caused by a biju bomb? I don't recall a temperature ever being stated for it.

it was hot enough to vaporize mountains so that implies more heat than akuinu could ever withstand unless he shows his magam being is hot enough to vapourise mountains

This is most likely due to the explosive force they produce on impact, not the heat, unless you can show otherwise.

as i said the mountains were completely fried the explosion force would have left some rubble

Pretty sure Naruto blew up some of Madaras meteors and there was still debree from them...

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#33 Posted by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@full123 said:
@jadenlol said:
@full123 said:

Th vaporisation argument, the stupidest argument against Logias to hit the Vine. Anyway, the only Admiral that gets vaped is Kuzan, the others stay intact.

so your telling me if a bijuu bomb hit him something that can vapourise mountains wouldn't vapouirise akuinu unless hes magma is as hot as the sun he dies

Bijuu bomb doesn't vaporise mountains. It rips them apart through pure explosive force. And again. Guess what? The temperature around a nuclear bomb shoot up to the heat of 10x the heat of the sun, yet even normal humans aren't vaporised by that. (Just extremely damaged and dead.) Same with lightning. Humans, normal humans, survive that. In explosions that produce pure heat like Bijuu bombs and nukes, the heat lasts for an infinitesmall amount of time. Hence why humans aren't instantly vaporised by them.

not really even volcano heat can completely vaporize a human ever heard of pompie the people skeleton were compeletley vaporized just by coming in close proximity of it people who survive nukes never enter its enclosure if the were hit theyd die instanlty from the blunt force and heat if the Bijuu bombs did vaporise the mountains if the did as you were saying the would have been some ruble left but the were completely gone

1. Yes, that is why humans have tales of surviving nuclear bombs, right? Nuclear bombs are not nearly as hot as you say, unless you were right inaide it.

2. Lava cannot vaporise a person if they stand close to it. The hwat can kill them, but for vaporisation a human would need to be dropped IN lava.

3. No, the Bijuu bomb turns them to DUST with pure explosive force. No rubboe left, yet it's not vaporisation.

4. You have not countered the lightning point. People have survived getting hit by lightning 7 TIMES in their life.

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#34 Edited by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:
@jadenlol said:
@blackestnight93 said:

@jadenlol: how is the explosion caused by a biju bomb? I don't recall a temperature ever being stated for it.

it was hot enough to vaporize mountains so that implies more heat than akuinu could ever withstand unless he shows his magam being is hot enough to vapourise mountains

This is most likely due to the explosive force they produce on impact, not the heat, unless you can show otherwise.

as i said the mountains were completely fried the explosion force would have left some rubble

Pretty sure Naruto blew up some of Madaras meteors and there was still debree from them...

when the eight tails tanked its own Bijuu bomb he body was covered in burns that implies Bijuu bomb are a source of heat more so than a source of blunt force

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#35 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@full123 said:
@jadenlol said:
@full123 said:
@jadenlol said:
@full123 said:

Th vaporisation argument, the stupidest argument against Logias to hit the Vine. Anyway, the only Admiral that gets vaped is Kuzan, the others stay intact.

so your telling me if a bijuu bomb hit him something that can vapourise mountains wouldn't vapouirise akuinu unless hes magma is as hot as the sun he dies

Bijuu bomb doesn't vaporise mountains. It rips them apart through pure explosive force. And again. Guess what? The temperature around a nuclear bomb shoot up to the heat of 10x the heat of the sun, yet even normal humans aren't vaporised by that. (Just extremely damaged and dead.) Same with lightning. Humans, normal humans, survive that. In explosions that produce pure heat like Bijuu bombs and nukes, the heat lasts for an infinitesmall amount of time. Hence why humans aren't instantly vaporised by them.

not really even volcano heat can completely vaporize a human ever heard of pompie the people skeleton were compeletley vaporized just by coming in close proximity of it people who survive nukes never enter its enclosure if the were hit theyd die instanlty from the blunt force and heat if the Bijuu bombs did vaporise the mountains if the did as you were saying the would have been some ruble left but the were completely gone

1. Yes, that is why humans have tales of surviving nuclear bombs, right? Nuclear bombs are not nearly as hot as you say, unless you were right inaide it.

2. Lava cannot vaporise a person if they stand close to it. The hwat can kill them, but for vaporisation a human would need to be dropped IN lava.

3. No, the Bijuu bomb turns them to DUST with pure explosive force. No rubboe left, yet it's not vaporisation.

4. You have not countered the lightning point. People have survived getting hit by lightning 7 TIMES in their life.

yes but the tales never actually conclude them surviving its core a human can barley with stand the radiation of remants of a nuclear bomb talkless of surviving in its core

if its hot enough i was told in school that pompeians were instantly vaporized upon the coming of the lava well some as it was that hot it depends on the individual some people get lucky

yes but pure explosion force isn't as neat or precise as heating them if the were simply blown away the would have been some rubble left over like me smahing a cupboard with force even though i shatter it the wouldn't be completely gone vaporized

lightning only strikes in a concentrated area so it burns away some parts unlike nukes that engulf everyhwere and not everyone survives it

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#36 Posted by deactivated-5b6470470eeed (520 posts) - - Show Bio

@thanospimphand: K-KISAMA! HOW DARE YOU POST 8TH GATE GUY?!?

HE'S WAY TOO OP FOR MARINEFORD! DELET THIS!

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#37 Posted by Cosmic_Lantern (5668 posts) - - Show Bio

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Nope. Try again. Haki is a power that exists within all humans in OP World. Chakra cokes from a magic space fruit given to ninjas by a magic space god.

All of this was seemingly retconned in Boruto, Ootsusuki had planets where other beings bore fruit also. The god tree requires chakra to grow anyways so its basically "Which came first chicken or the egg?" type deal. By definition physical and spiritual energy is all thats needed

On-topic. Yeah, Kizaru couldn't react to him, but Night Guy is NOT faster than light.

Relatively speaking Guy should be able to traverse a galaxy near instantly, gravitational lensing occurs when the light is obstructed by a massive cluster of stars you see the effect of 'distorting space' happens when you've broken the light barrier basically the equivalent of a sonic boom except at the speed of light. The amount of energy required to do something of this nature is incalculable though Humans have come awfully close to it with Hadron Colliders and the Tevatron, the consequence for such might be catastrophic much worse than what we see Guy doing.

the 'infinite mass' theory is not only outdated but has been disproved multiple times recently, in short Guy was able to reach a significant amount of acceleration and mass needed to bend light and distort space. That means he achieved mass equivalent to a black hole and exerted gravity stronger than a galaxy full of stars(milky way?) Quantifiably light isn't even on the table anymore, The power of his Youth transcends even reality.

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#38 Posted by jadenlol (1875 posts) - - Show Bio

@full123 said:

Nope. Try again. Haki is a power that exists within all humans in OP World. Chakra cokes from a magic space fruit given to ninjas by a magic space god.

All of this was seemingly retconned in Boruto, Ootsusuki had planets where other beings bore fruit also. The god tree requires chakra to grow anyways so its basically "Which came first chicken or the egg?" type deal. By definition physical and spiritual energy is all thats needed

On-topic. Yeah, Kizaru couldn't react to him, but Night Guy is NOT faster than light.

Relatively speaking Guy should be able to traverse a galaxy near instantly, gravitational lensing occurs when the light is obstructed by a massive cluster of stars you see the effect of 'distorting space' happens when you've broken the light barrier basically the equivalent of a sonic boom except at the speed of light. The amount of energy required to do something of this nature is incalculable though Humans have come awfully close to it with Hadron Colliders and the Tevatron, the consequence for such might be catastrophic much worse than what we see Guy doing.

the 'infinite mass' theory is not only outdated but has been disproved multiple times recently, in short Guy was able to reach a significant amount of acceleration and mass needed to bend light and distort space. That means he achieved mass equivalent to a black hole and exerted gravity stronger than a galaxy full of stars(milky way?) Quantifiably light isn't even on the table anymore, The power of his Youth transcends even reality.

holy hell im not sure if that the most absurd wank ive heard in years or the best thing ive seen

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#39 Posted by Cosmic_Lantern (5668 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol said:
@cosmic_lantern said:
@full123 said:

Nope. Try again. Haki is a power that exists within all humans in OP World. Chakra cokes from a magic space fruit given to ninjas by a magic space god.

All of this was seemingly retconned in Boruto, Ootsusuki had planets where other beings bore fruit also. The god tree requires chakra to grow anyways so its basically "Which came first chicken or the egg?" type deal. By definition physical and spiritual energy is all thats needed

On-topic. Yeah, Kizaru couldn't react to him, but Night Guy is NOT faster than light.

Relatively speaking Guy should be able to traverse a galaxy near instantly, gravitational lensing occurs when the light is obstructed by a massive cluster of stars you see the effect of 'distorting space' happens when you've broken the light barrier basically the equivalent of a sonic boom except at the speed of light. The amount of energy required to do something of this nature is incalculable though Humans have come awfully close to it with Hadron Colliders and the Tevatron, the consequence for such might be catastrophic much worse than what we see Guy doing.

the 'infinite mass' theory is not only outdated but has been disproved multiple times recently, in short Guy was able to reach a significant amount of acceleration and mass needed to bend light and distort space. That means he achieved mass equivalent to a black hole and exerted gravity stronger than a galaxy full of stars(milky way?) Quantifiably light isn't even on the table anymore, The power of his Youth transcends even reality.

holy hell im not sure if that the most absurd wank ive heard in years or the best thing ive seen

All proven on pannel, but this feat is highly inconsistent and doesn't even belong in the series. Not to mention Kishi didn't have this in mind when illustrating it, still an amazing feat, on the level of Wally and Surfer.

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#40 Posted by KingZod (3917 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody would even be able to perceive his movement

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#41 Posted by ThanosPimphand (705 posts) - - Show Bio

@thanospimphand: K-KISAMA! HOW DARE YOU POST 8TH GATE GUY?!?

HE'S WAY TOO OP FOR MARINEFORD! DELET THIS!

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Lol xD . With all of the marine force and 7 warlords, i honestly think this is a close match-up

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#42 Posted by maxxcveiler (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't Guy bend space-time and it actually showed on panel? One Piece has yet to show such feat. Guy rescues ace in style, kicks air & that kicked- air one-shots marineford

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#43 Posted by deactivated-5b6470470eeed (520 posts) - - Show Bio
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#44 Edited by Chaarrrt (386 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmic_lantern: WHAT HE SAID!

Naruto toptiers > OP toptiers.

Noone in OP comes close to Kaguya, Rikudo, Juudara or Juubito. I'd even dare say EoS Naruto and EoS Sasuke are also above OP top-tiers, but I may be wrong here.

BTW Gai rescues Ace, wins the war and then dies...

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#46 Posted by DeathHero61 (18686 posts) - - Show Bio

@full123 said:

1- Yes

2- Not unless he can suddenly hit Logias.

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#47 Posted by ThanosPimphand (705 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#48 Posted by WordWarrior (1084 posts) - - Show Bio

No

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#49 Posted by Oreo6 (391 posts) - - Show Bio

@jadenlol: As rediculous......as motherfu**in rediculous as "he should vaporize there elements* sounds.....it actually kinda makes sense.

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#50 Posted by Rebake (3896 posts) - - Show Bio

@oreo6: you can't vaporize light...