Midora vs Luo Zheng

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speed equal

battle takes place on an indestructible planet

original round: Luo is pre ascension without his soul abilities.

round 2: Luo is end of dream battlefield with all his powers

who wins?

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thoughts?

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Midora wins easily. Luo isn't fast enough and lacks a method to handle Minority World. He'd be dead before he even thinks to use Power Shift to counter it.

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@mass:

i equalized speed or else midora would speed blitz.

so you think luo can't counter minority world in any way?

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@princex: Midora would still win. You need a post dream Battlefield version of Luo to compete with Midora's stats to begin with. Minority World would be a huge obstacle. Luo could power shift that harm it causes but there's also the chance minority World would reverse the shift and send it back at him. Add in Food Luck that Luo can't counter until he absorbs the Fate Devouring Snakes in the Upper realm and Midora has this

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@mass said:

Midora wins easily. Luo isn't fast enough and lacks a method to handle Minority World. He'd be dead before he even thinks to use Power Shift to counter it.

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@princex: Midora should take this. As @Mass said, minority world and food luck is too much for this Luo Zheng.

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@lilgodperv: @mass:

alright fair. so luo's superior luck and causality stuff and also him being fateless doesn't help.

im almost done with the dream battlefield arc, i'll make more luo battles once im caught up and use his current version.

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@princex: you're using pre-ascension Luo. Hes still Fateless but that doesn't help here. His causality stuff doesn't really start until the Dream Battlefield.

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Equal Speed Is meaningless when Midora has BC and food luck

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@mass:

he countered the law of causality multiple times with his pickaxe, but i see the point.

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@mass:

finished the dream battlefield arc, changed luo to the version of him at the end of the arc.

how do you think this fight goes now?

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@princex: I'd either add another round or make a new battle as this one already has several comment based on the original conditions

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@mass:

alright i added another round

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@princex: ok

Round 1 - Midora wins easily as we've already discussed

Round 2 - If it wasn't speed equal, Midora would still have a large speed advantage as Luo is still only FTL at this point whereas Midora is easily MFTL. With speed equalized that's a moot point.

Luo now dwarfs Midora's attack power and durability. Luo is packing the power of over 300 stars and can attack with a literal Black Hole in his fist. That's not even using the Divine Sword which far surpasses his star power.

Food Luck becomes useless as Luo at this point has absorbed the Great Fortune and is essentially so lucky, he can't be hit except by those with similar levels of luck. The kind of luck needed is anyone's guess though. Just know that should Luo be attacked, his luck will randomly open a tear in space to swallow the attack (literally impossible scenarios happening to protect him).

Minority World is still a problem. With it, Midora can make Luo's vast health reverse and active work against him. While Luo can manipulate casualty to a point, he's not at the level yet where he can outright ignore something like Minority World. Though Luo is a battle genius and would quickly figure out that Minority World is making the reverse happen and counter accordingly.

Midora will need everything he has to take out Luo and hope that Minority World delays him long enough to chip away at his durability. Meanwhile, if Luo punches Midora once, he's paste. Granted Midora can easily regenate from that but Luo is just packing way too much fire power at this point. Add in his soul attacks which are even stronger now and Luo should take this round.

Any version of Luo past Divine Extremity is just a stomp as Luo is a solid Galaxy Buster at that point.

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@mass:

fair enough.

i think luo's space phasing would make this even more frustrating for midora:

and his Eight Tunes Flying Smoke which is basically a scuffed ultra instinct.

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@princex: he barely ever used the 3rd law of space and I dunno how Minority World would effect it anyway.

Eight Times of Smoke is basically 4th dimensional auto evasion.

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@mass:

yeah kinda weird how he doesn't use it, its pretty op so maybe learning the law of space counters the ability so he doesn't bother if the opponent can also use the law.

yup the ability is pretty broken, especially if the opponent doesn't have a huge speed advantage.