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bloodlusted
both at their peak
Minority World. Gourmet Luck
GG
@decaf_wizard: *sigh* is this before or after he got speedblitzed and one-shot?
@highaccuser: read above.
@decaf_wizard: *sigh* is this before or after he got speedblitzed and one-shot?
Ok. Give me combat feats and an example to say Goku could and would do this before both of these things are activated
@decaf_wizard: Goku is bloodlusted so he would punch with full force SSBKK which is faster than time skip and strong enough to destroy a pocket dimension.Midora dies.
@hittheassasin:So he does this to two MFTL characters before they can ever react? Yea I find it hard to believe
Oh and Midora has regenerated his entire body before, so getting turned into paste isn't his biggest issue
@decaf_wizard: Midora isnt MFTL.Also IIRC Midora has never regenerated from being turned into paste and splattered across the ground,although i could be wrong on that one.
Why isnt this locked yet? Bloodlusted Goku would speedblitz and one shoot both of them with flick or generic ki blast. They are in completely diffrent tiers.
@hittheassasin: Midora is MFTL, as is Toriko.
I mean is getting harder and harder to disprove Goku universe shaking punch when there are people who do destroy universes. SO Goku ONE PUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More like easier and easier considering all the nonsense power-scaling Super is employing.
@scythenger: This is untrue.
Goku does however, easily win.
Goku should one-shot... actually I'm not sure who takes this
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Minority World. Gourmet Luck
GG
A bloodlusted Midora's hax would just be too much. Especially since their speed is similar.
Goku is not universal. Beerus is. Which is why everytime Beerus begins fighting the universe becomes threatened. Such as against Champa and SSG Goku. However that is clearly not the case with SSB Goku.
@marc_55: midora is not over 100x faster than light at all.
@hittheassasin: He is tho, feats speak for themselves.
@hittheassasin: He is tho, feats speak for themselves.
He doesn't really have feats on that level. It's just scaling that puts him there.
@emperorthanos: Meh, combating characters with those feats is enough, either way.
@emperorthanos: Meh, combating characters with those feats is enough, either way.
Maybe but the scaling to put him at that speeds is a little weird. Anyway a bloodlusted Midora would win. If it was in character I would have said otherwise.
I mean is getting harder and harder to disprove Goku universe shaking punch when there are people who do destroy universes. SO Goku ONE PUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More like easier and easier considering all the nonsense power-scaling Super is employing.
When it come to high tier not really they have been consistent, although anything with SSJ is just whatever.
Goku turns them into dust before they realize what happened. Goku is universal level and MFTL . these guys are below star level and barely FTL
@emperorthanos: Meh, combating characters with those feats is enough, either way.
Maybe but the scaling to put him at that speeds is a little weird. Anyway a bloodlusted Midora would win. If it was in character I would have said otherwise.
Even a serious flick from goku would kill midora , goku is mftl and universe level . No character on toriko planet can ever tank this . Bloodlusted goku can literally one shot.
@flashback0180: I already shared my thoughts in that. If this was Beerus. Then he would stomp because he is universal.
But I don't think Goku is universal since we never see him display that power after. Remeber that Beerus is still much stronger than Goku.
@flashback0180: I already shared my thoughts in that. If this was Beerus. Then he would stomp because he is universal.
But I don't think Goku is universal since we never see him display that power after. Remeber that Beerus is still much stronger than Goku.
First of , goku literally matched the exact force of berus punch , half of that shockwave is literally from goku .
Secondly, goku is universal , anything on a universal scale is universal. Plus he did that feat in his inferior ssg , this was prior to ssjb , prior to 2 year training , prior to kaiokan 10x .
Lastly , bringing a universal level character is out of the question, spite , nothing in toriko verse has tanked a legit star level let alone Gokus level
@flashback0180: Was it ever stated in the anime that SSG was inferior to SSB?
If Goku really universal we should have atleast been hinted at such power later on. But we never get anything of the sort. While with Beerus it is mentioned time and time again that He could bow up the universe.
Yes Goku has the beat in raw power. But he can't deal with Midora's hax. And their speed is very close. If Goku was fighting Midora 1v1 then there might have been a chance for Goku. but Toriko can serve as a detraction while Midora finishes him off with Minority world.
I mean is getting harder and harder to disprove Goku universe shaking punch when there are people who do destroy universes. SO Goku ONE PUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More like easier and easier considering all the nonsense power-scaling Super is employing.
I totally agree.
Well when you have omni king destroying universes, and Beerus constantly being told not to destroy the universe, the universe planet punch seem to be more credible. That being said, Goku is not universal. Shaking a building does not make one a building buster, shaking the universe with help from Beerus punch does not make Goku universal level, at best galaxy-multi galaxy.
OH but that an outlier for Goku duh you said, but other higher tier can do more, so it makes no sense if he isn't one. Also of course Goku would never try to bust some galaxy bc he die if he does, he can't breath in space and does not want to kill people or bust planets.
@flashback0180: Was it ever stated in the anime that SSG was inferior to SSB?
Its a hierarchical transformation , Goku said he surpassed ssjg during freeza arc. The narrator says it again while summing up.
If Goku really universal we should have atleast been hinted at such power later on.
Why? He already proved it. Dbz has historically always relied on potency rather than DC
But we never get anything of the sort. While with Beerus it is mentioned time and time again that He could bow up the universe.
And your point being? Half the characters in toriko don't have feats to support planet level even though they are well beyond it.
Yes Goku has the beat in raw power. But he can't deal with Midora's hax.
Midoras hax is NLF , if it was limitless it would one shot neo via minority world. Which acacia was vastly immune too.
And their speed is very close.
No its not , even the top-tier of the verse are barely FTL , Goku fights characters who are MFTL .berus lowest estimates are at millionsx ftl .
If Goku was fighting Midora 1v1 then there might have been a chance for Goku. but Toriko can serve as a detraction while Midora finishes him off with Minority world.
a single flick from a universal level character will blow these characters , that's not considering regen won't work.
Fact is acacia himself states a attack by overwhelming power will not heal . Universal level is too much for them , this is the same reason how white one killed acacia , who has near limitless regen.
Its a hierarchical transformation , Goku said he surpassed ssjg during freeza arc. The narrator says it again while summing up.
Fair enough.
Why? He already proved it. Dbz has historically always relied on potency rather than DC
DBZ has also historically mentioned how powerful every attack is. When ever an attack is planetary or solar system people would mention it. Yet this never happens with Goku post Beerus fight. And that applies to all his villains as well.
And your point being? Half the characters in toriko don't have feats to support planet level even though they are well beyond it.
most of them do. even if just through the AOE damage. But that is irrelevant to the topic at hand since both characters here do.
The thing is we know for a fact that character later are stronger. Just like Cell is obvioulsy stronger than Frieza so he can do whatever he did.
Goku and none of the villains he has faced since are near Beerus's level yet.
Midoras hax is NLF , if it was limitless it would one shot neo via minority world. Which acacia was vastly immune too.
We have no idea if Acacia was immune to it or not. Beerus did use destruct on Goku that doesn't mean GOku is immune it. It just means Midora doesn't use it in character which isn't an issue here since he is bloodlusted.
No its not , even the top-tier of the verse are barely FTL , Goku fights characters who are MFTL .berus lowest estimates are at millionsx ftl .
They are all easily MFTl at this point. There are feats of them being million times FTL.
a single flick from a universal level character will blow these characters , that's not considering regen won't work.
Never once said anything about regen. And I agree with the first part but Goku isn't universal.
@gnomishness: Base goku in super is stronger than everyone in toriko. Their hax hasn't been shown to work on people stronger than them. Toriko characters at max stop somewhere in dbz and it isn't anywhere high.
@scythenger: Maybe Goku could defeat Toriko and Midora in Base, but I seriously doubt he could solo the verse without Supersaiyan.
He'd have trouble against the very first Space Taipan.
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