Midnighter vs Omega Red

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#1  Edited By POHOCOM

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By Hadrelius

This goes to Red. With his strength and heaing factor, he would be a match for him. Throw in the indestructable coils and the phermone thing, it has to give him an edge.

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#3  Edited By POHOCOM

Alpha says:

"This goes to Red. With his strength and heaing factor, he would be a match for him. Throw in the indestructable coils and the phermone thing, it has to give him an edge. "

I agree. I was hoping to hear some Midnighter fans explain how he could win this one.

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#4  Edited By Hadrelius

POHOCOM says:

"Alpha says:
"This goes to Red. With his strength and heaing factor, he would be a match for him. Throw in the indestructable coils and the phermone thing, it has to give him an edge. "
I agree. I was hoping to hear some Midnighter fans explain how he could win this one."

I waiting for it. I have to admit I hate that guy.

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#5  Edited By Hadrelius

I wonder if Midnighter's strength would be a factor?
I still think he would loose.

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#6  Edited By kaino12

i think midnighter would win cus he gay its nice to know that they made the one gay hero over powered.

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#7  Edited By The_Martian

Hard choice. I think I"m going with Midnighter, Omega Red has some power but he sucks.

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#8  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

Midnighter's healing factor would keep him safe from the pheromones and then he really just has to avoid the coils which should be easying seeing as he knows how Omega Red is going to use them. My only question is how durable Omega Red is. I think Midnighter is strong enough to do damage, it just might take a while depending on Omega's durability.

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#9  Edited By Hadrelius
Buckshot said:
"Midnighter's healing factor would keep him safe from the pheromones and then he really just has to avoid the coils which should be easying seeing as he knows how Omega Red is going to use them. My only question is how durable Omega Red is. I think Midnighter is strong enough to do damage, it just might take a while depending on Omega's durability."
Didn't his phermones effect Wolverine?
If so, what chance would Midnight have?
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#10  Edited By Logic Mark III

Wolverine's healing factor is waaaaaaaaaaay better than Midnighters, its not a disease its just death, i dont see Midnighter survivng the death spores at all.

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#11  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

That's really only a problem if you assume Wolverine's healing factor (as its most commonly shown, not crazy PIS level) is better that Midnighter's. It might be, but I don't feel like really getting into it. Even then, it's not an instant kill. Nightcrawler was able to practically hug OR and take him away and he was unharmed. Midnighter isn't going to just drop. Something he has over Wolverine regardless of the healing factor is redundant systems. Even if he does get messed up, he has backups for everything so it would take longer for it to really get to him. He also doesn't need to breathe much (sometimes not at all) so if the pheremones need to be inhaled (I'm not sure, but I think so) then he'd be even better protected.

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#12  Edited By Logic Mark III

PIS? His healing factor seems to have grown/evolved, like other characters powers have and do. Midnighters healing factor hasnt really been shown in the same 'in combat now you see the wound now you dont' way that Wolverines is, thus i think its better now as well as then. Which era of Wolverine do you think has a none PIS healing factor? Kurt wasnt exactly around him long, barring the door [it aint his power] Midnighter cant exactly teleport out of the situation. Midnighter doesnt have to breath?!?!? Wheres this from? [I think the pheremones have been shown as having to be breathed in, Wolverine tackled him in a depowered state and used a re-breather, cant remember if its been shown to be any different off the top of my head]. Redundant systems help how? I understand if ya rip one heart out the other takes over but if this is a death feild it should affect them all the same, so having two or more of one thing means nothing, besides if he succumbs to the death spores in a way that makes him incapacitated its over cause then Omega Red can rip him limb from limb and organ from organ.

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#13  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

It's PIS and not growth since it happens at different rates in comics set at around the same time. Coming back from a skeleton (and walking around with no muscle or tendons) in one comic and taking more than a half an hour to regrow the skin of his upper body show different levels of healing. On top of that, he's had his healing factor lowered considerably once he got his complete soul back so he's not at regen-from-bones level anymore (they even mentioned that and said he couldn't do it anymore). The Door is part of Midnighter's abilities whether it's his power or not. Wolverine's adamantium isn't his power, Iron Man's armor isn't a power, the GL ring isn't a power. There are many characters that use technology that aren't their own powers. Omega Red is one of those. Midnighter has been shown (armageddon stated that explicitly) to be able to survive and even fight for extended periods in anaerobic environments and places with very little oxygen (space, mars, high atmosphere, parts of the carrier without air, etc). The redundant systems would help because if he breathes in pheremones, not everything gets damaged, just whichever set of organs they flow through and the others would still be fine. 

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#14  Edited By King_Saturn
Midnighter wins in a close fight with Omega Red
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#15  Edited By Nerx

Door or no door? full equipment for MN or not?