(MHA) High-End Nomu vs Phantom Troupe (HxH)

VS

Battle takes place in a empty I-Island a starting distance of 50 meters apart.

Both sides have are unaware of each other capabilities.

Both sides are in-character.

Both sides are compelled to defeat each other.

Victory via death, KO or incap of opponent

The Nomu can be pretty formidable, but the fact that a crowd of no-name heroes was able to bring down a few was also kind of surprising. My guess would be superior tactics, which the Troupe should be capable of pulling off and eventually winning. That said, they don't have nearly as many numbers.

Troupe has dura neg and the nomu is an idiot.

The Troupe lack in numbers and we know heroes have powers like fire, ice, lightning etc which Nomu are known to be susceptible to.

Iirc the Nomu after losing nearly half their number had about 10 left so the Nomu are at least outnumbering the PT. My money is on the Nomu since they have higher abilities and are individually stronger. Some members of the troupe also just don’t have the dps to hurt the nomu notably like Machi, Kortopi and Pakunoda won’t do much however Shalnark could do quite a bit if he can pierce them.

Ultimately I see the Nomu outlasting and outnumbering the PT for a victory.

@belando:

(but the fact that a crowd of no-name heroes was able to bring down a few was also kind of surprising.)

> this cannot be a means to justify why phantom troupe would win. Heroes outside of the top 10 can also have fire quirks, ice quirk or any other dura neg quirk. If we where to go by horikoshi data book power/scaling, it looks like hori built most of the nomu to have all might stats, but people like endeavor are just natural counter to this. Even bos todoroki is more than capable of ripping apart an all might level nomu and someone like ashido who might not be in the top 10 of hero ranking(when she becomes a pro) would have a much easier time killing high ends.

Though am not to familiar with hxh verse, so i wouldn't say who wins (yet), but what i do know is that if they don't have the necessary equipment to defeat a nomu, they aren't coming out of this alive, especially if it is the one that endeavor faced.

Heroes rankings in MHA are not power level feasts. There's countless low rank heroes with extremely OP quirks. Just look at Pixie Bob's Geo-kinesis or 13's Black Hole for example.

At most hero rankings can be viewed as a sign of competency rather than outright power levels.

Phantom troupe outspeed them and out hax them, also nen can be scaled to durability and AP, all of them superior to gon who can send chimera ants to another country with a punch, togashi said that gon was still an amateur

@savage_emperor1:

especially if it is the one that endeavor faced.

This is the near-high ends. We didn't see how the heroes defeated them, but I can't recall a single hero who wasn't named or ranked on the ladder that were particularly impressive.

While simultaneously, these are "mindless beasts" which leads me to believe the heroes eventually defeated them with tactics and teamwork, something I think the Troupe should be capable of. Either Uvogin smashes a head, or someone else does eventually.

@killerinstinct1

gon who can send chimera ants to another country with a punch, togashi said that gon was still an amateur

We never saw where Hollow landed, nor if taken literally does Gon replicate something like this elsewhere.

Feitan's Rising Sun turns the nomus into coal

@belando: The Troupe need to accomplish that before the Nomu start waking up fully. Also there are like 3 instances of competent heroes not making it into the top 10 but being powerful (Gran Torino, Cementoss and apparently Majestic).

@joker5000:

The Troupe need to accomplish that before the Nomu start waking up fully.

These are the near High-Ends. They don't really "wake up".

there are like 3 instances of competent heroes not making it into the top 10 but being powerful (Gran Torino, Cementoss and apparently Majestic).

Not really talking about the top of the ladder. Just any hero where the name or ranking isn't provided that is impressive. I don't think Majestic would have the firepower to kill a Nomu, but Gran Torino could be capable though.

If we're talking about the level of nomu that was smacking up Endeavor, and there's a group of them, then the Phantom Troupe is getting demolished. Uvogin and Phinx are probably the only ones that can survive a sudden clash with them. I think if Shalnark gets his ability going he can make a difference here too but he probably just gets his ass blitzed to be honest

@belando: They do. Burnin noted they got lore coordinated as time passed.

My point is just because a hero isn’t named or ranked doesn’t mean they’re not strong plus again the heroes had powers the nomu are susceptible to and outnumber the nomu.

@joker5000:

They do. Burnin noted they got lore coordinated as time passed.

I don't think that's waking up akin to the high-ends, they can't think for themselves but are resonating with Shigaraki, like Machia. While the actual high-ends would think for themselves with unique personalities and come up with strategies.

My point is just because a hero isn’t named or ranked doesn’t mean they’re not strong plus again the heroes had powers the nomu are susceptible to and outnumber the nomu.

Outnumbering them, 100%. Apart from that, we didn't get to see them take down Nomu's in the manga. This is why my stance is numbers and tactics against creatures that can't think lead to half of them being beaten.

Strong heroes and busted quirks outside of the known ones exist, of course. But I'd have to see it to treat it as evidence if you get me.

@belando: Yeah you’re right about that I guess they just get a bit better at fighting maybe.

Yeah the PT have tactics but they’re the outnumbered ones here and even when the Nomu where mindless and outnumbered they were beating the heroes. To top it off a third of the PT don’t have abilities geared towards killing a Nomu. This number might even go up to 5 if Shalnark can’t pierce the Nomu.

I mean the fact that Burnin has a fire quirk which we know Nomu are susceptible to (plus at least one hero in the fight had an ice quirk as one Nomu is shown frozen) makes it pretty clear that the heroes actually had the means to harm such enemies.