@homifred: Proof that he can amplify his attacks to the point of being able to punch a kaiju sized mech in half? To the point of being able to toss 500 ton mechs with brute strength alone? Yeah, Vader has no way of winning this even if you give him force amplification.
Vader tries to force him with a push or a pull, kinda jiggles him a bit, but Raiden latches onto the ground and the ground is taken for a ride along with Raiden. Ultimately, Raiden sustains very little physical damage from Vaders force attacks due to having enough strength to withstand it, much like how Grevious withstood Force push and pulls from Jedi and walked through them due to his physical strength. Imagine that times 10,000x for Raiden.
The battle is one sided with Raiden superior in every way. Force Lightning has no effect on Raiden in terms of physical damage. He is immune to shock so far as I am aware.
I'm backing Raiden unless Vader gets offensive Force powers.
Meh, even then Raiden should win. He is able to withstand 1000s of tons of force, and Vader is not doing damage in that range via Force TK. Meanwhile Raiden matches in the speed range. Raiden also has EMP in his gear in the game, that would take out life support hindering Vader, and possibly the Saber itself.
Only chance Vader has is skill advatage, maybe slicing through Raidens sword.
Raiden used Metal Gear EXCELSUS's huge HF blade in Blade Mode. That's enough to put him above class 100 strength. He can just rip apart Vader with his bare hands.
Vader, he is a lightning timer, that's too much for Raiden. Also, the op doesn't stop him from using the force to throw object at raiden, and he once threw a huge boulder with enough strength to take down a tie fighter.
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