Merged Obito and Ulquiorra vs Merged Madara and Grimmjow (Naruto and Bleach)

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Arena: The Divine Tree

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Obito (not Juubito) and Ulquiorra are merged.

Madara (Not Juudara) and Grimmjow are merged.

I love Naruto and Bleach, I think both shows have some great villains and these are some of my favorites. I've seen Obito vs Grimmjow and Madara vs Ulquiorra along with some other fights, but im wondering how merged forms of all of them work.

Ulquiorra and Grimmjow can use their releases. Madara and Obito both have one Rinnegan and their EMS's.

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#2  Edited By TheEmperor95

Obito and ulquiorra combo take it. Intangible Lanza combo is too broken for madara and grimmjow combo. They also have significantly better regen

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#3  Edited By Ivexio2

Ulquiorra>>Grimmjow....but Madaraa>>>Obito. I gonna have to go with Grimdara.

The power/destructive boost ulq brings to the table isn't enough to compete with Madara's PS while Madara already knows how Kamui works enough for it to not be a problem....and if this is reviveed madara that can use limbo......well Grimdara stomps.

I don't think grimmjow brings much to the merge either?

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Uuuuuuhhhhhhh....I guess Obitorra takes it?

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@ivexio2: ulquiorra can fly into PS (since he is the fastest person here) and then throw Lanza all while being intangible and taking no damage. Knowing how kamui works would matter if ulquiorra wasn't here as well giving him additional abilities and destructive power. Obito also has a rinnegan so he can see limbo

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Merged Obito and Ulduiorra

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Madara and Grimmjow win easily, Lanza won't do shit to PS while a sword swing from PS one shots Obitorra if it hits.

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@ultimatesage: Is this fight not as balanced as I thought it would be?

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@ivexio2 said:

Ulquiorra>>Grimmjow....but Madaraa>>>Obito. I gonna have to go with Grimdara.

The power/destructive boost ulq brings to the table isn't enough to compete with Madara's PS while Madara already knows how Kamui works enough for it to not be a problem....and if this is reviveed madara that can use limbo......well Grimdara stomps.

I don't think grimmjow brings much to the merge either?

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@grimcreations: well, madara is basically by himself cuz grimmjow doesn't add anything except for flight, but the obito/Ulquiorra combo is still not enough to take on madara either.....so no it is somewhat balanced.

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^ that's bait.

OT: limbo GG.

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#13  Edited By FaradaySloth

Obitorra wins

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Madara And Grimmjow takes this

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Madara can solo with Limbo.

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@wot_m8: Obitorra has rinnegan and can see limbo though.

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@ivexio2 said:

Ulquiorra>>Grimmjow....but Madaraa>>>Obito. I gonna have to go with Grimdara.

The power/destructive boost ulq brings to the table isn't enough to compete with Madara's PS while Madara already knows how Kamui works enough for it to not be a problem....and if this is reviveed madara that can use limbo......well Grimdara stomps.

I don't think grimmjow brings much to the merge either?

^^^that and ulquiorra for sure isn't the fastest here imo, and sure rinnegan allows thrm to see limbo....but it sure as hell don't give them Six paths Chakra to be able to interact with them

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@grimcreations: Doesn't mean he can defend against it. Only someone with Six paths can touch Limbo. Not even Sasuke was able to IIRC... only Naruto has shown that ability.

The only version of Juubito that can interact with Limbo is Juubito.

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@wot_m8: He does have flight and phasing though!

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Obito/Ulq takes it.

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#22  Edited By Wot_m8

@grimcreations: His Kamui is far less impressive and much more manageable when someone has knowledge over it. Madara was able to effortlessly tag him, granted he had the Juubi at the time but I really doubt Madara would be unable to overcome it. Obito will have to solidify in order to harm Madara, and Madara has full knowledge of his Kamui considering he literally monologues how it works and is able to use it instantly himself when needed. And only Juubito can fly, not Obito.

Madara still solos IMO.

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@wot_m8: Do you think the dual regeneration (Obito and Ulquiorras) as well as Ulquiorras massive physical advantage in leagues with Obitos sheer Jutsu hax are just weaker?

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@grimcreations: Yup. PS is simply above them. Limbo would take care of Obito anyway.

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does madara even need grimmjow?

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I want to say Obitorra wins but Limbo is a huge problem so I'm giving it to Grimmdara

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#27  Edited By TheEmperor95

@wot_m8: how does madara solo he can't touch them and he can't take Lanza.

Limbo isn't very useful since it can be seen and he can phase through it.

They also have flight advantage and speed advantage.

PS is useless because they can phase through it and throw Lanza inside of PS

Edit: grimdara will need PS in order to deal with with the damage output ulquiorra brings. Without he gets bodied

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@theemperor95:

They won't be able to phase, limbo clones make that impossible. They'll do what Naruto did with his clones attack him in the Kamui when he goes intang. They can't hit the Limbo clones you need six path chakra to do any damage to them.

Lanza isn't hurting PS. And neither of them is tanking PS attacks.

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@theemperor95: Oh really? Please, do present feats for Lanza hurting any character... anyone... I'll wait.

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@wot_m8: do you want to see it destroying a small mountain like structure?

https://www.mangareader.net/bleach/351/11

That's without even directly touching the structure

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@theemperor95: And PS Susanno beheaded multiple mountains with a shockwave. Once again... any feats?

P.S. No mountains in that scan. So, nice one.

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@adamantine: limbo has never stopped anyone from going intangible? Nor could them damage him while he is intangible. Nor can limbo clones fly well they may be able to since grimmjow is here but no where near the speed that obitorra can.

Again they don't need to worry about PS tanking Lanza in fact it tank Lanza is the biggest problem since they can PHASE through PS and then throw Lanza while inside of it trapping the explosion inside with grimdara killing him

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#33  Edited By adamantine

@theemperor95: I don't think you understand. Obito try's to use Kamui on Madara he swaps places with Limbo, the Limbo clone is now in the Kamui world Every time they use Kamui now the Limbo clone would kick*(that typo tho) their butt in the Kamui worls forcing them to stay tangible.

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Madara litterally solos. If he can use Limbo he stomps.

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Obitorra wins

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Someone needs draw merged Madara and Grimmjow that would be beastly

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@adamantine: they wouldn't use kamui to send madara to the kamui dimension though. There is no point when they can just nuke him inside of PS

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@wot_m8: that structure is massively in the distance and is still several times the size of the towers on top of Las noches which are in of themselves hundreds of meters in height.

PS can behead all the mountains it wants but since they are intangible it doesn't matter. What happens to madara though when Lanza goes off inside of PS and all the pressure stays inside?

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@adamantine: but since he is merged with ulquiorra he would probably just try his physicals/blitz first in which case susanoo is needed to be able to keep up

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@theemperor95: But his Physicals would be less because if Madara. And Madara should be faster so they can dodge the "blitz"

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@theemperor95: Once again, Lanza looks cool and all but I am asking you for feats... has it ever once harmed someone?

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@adamantine: ulquiorra is faster then madara but he should be able to react via sharingan prediction. But it would still require him to use susanoo to have any chance at winning

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@wot_m8: not a soul but it's too bad madara doesn't have the durability feats to tank cero let alone Lanza.

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@theemperor95: Ulq is not faster he scales to the Mach 500-1000 Gin feats Madara should scale to around the same or a little higher.

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@wot_m8: not a soul but it's too bad madara doesn't have the durability feats to tank cero let alone Lanza.

I thought we were talking about Lanza? You know... since you were hyping it up and all.

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@wot_m8: hyping it up? It one shots madara since he can't take it. I don't have to hype it up but if you like I can just say they use cero instead

You got any durability feats for madara?

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@adamantine: he scales to mach 1000 and I could even argue that's only his first release since he blitzed ichigo in that one. Madara doesn't scale that high in speed outside of juubijin form

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@theemperor95: I never said a word about Madara's durability. You are making claims that a featless attack that never once hurt a soul in your own words can one shot someone.

Your claims... burden of proof is on you. I don't have to prove that an unproved, featless attack cannot harm a character.

Nice try though.

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#50  Edited By TheEmperor95

@wot_m8: I already showed it destroying a small mountain sized structure without touching it so yes you do have to provide some durability feats

Edit: nice try though