Melodias Vs One Piece Admirals

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It's obvious that he vaped all of the clouds as we see no sign of any clouds left.

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Here you go:

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Their still clouds on their area, he most like just cancel the power of the Sinner and not that the vape it complete...

"Can you show the scan of Ace stoping a snowfall, please?"

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"Whitebeard shaking a island isn't very impressive considering Drole (fodder beyond fodder to current Meliodas) was able to shake the entire kingdom of Liones, which was 100km away.

Can you pls show me Drole feat and why you think it was 100km away?

For the Whitebeard feat, he shake a island far away(probably 100-1000km away) while using his power on MF and as we know their are only two other island who are around MF:

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And here to make clear how large the distance between each of the island are:

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"For a faster ship 80-100 miles. Anything between 50-100 miles a day is reasonable enough. You might go to 120 miles/day or so for a good ship in good conditions - that's an average 5 mph in the intended direction, which is about the highest plausible number pre-Age of Sail. A slow ship might make 30 miles/day."

The navy even had advantages to reach impel down, yet it need 4days to reach Impel down.

Let use the middle and say the Navy ship travel with 100miles a day and 4 days would be 643,738Km..

And you see nonear any island beside these four island, yet a island far away from these island get shaked by Whitebeard power:

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As you can see Whitebeard attack still have effect on island who are far away from MF...

"The entire mass of the kingdom would be probably equivalent to multiple mountains, but it's still equal to WB's feat."

As I said, can you pls show me these feats?

"And how Akainu clashing with WB makes him island level? Current Meliodas is stated to be above the Dk, that put's him country+ lvl. 4 island characters cant do jack shit to one country"

He match up with Whitebeard Df power, he is on same lvl as Kuzan(even stronger) who could do this:

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He turn the sea into a continent of ice as the dude from last page even state it. And if we using your logic again, Kuzan should be easily country-continent lvl by these feat...

Hear firsttime that the DK is country lvl, which feat put him to that lvl? If you again come up with weather shit manipulation, we have legit here Aokiji who is far beyond that lvl, so next...

Again without wanking all five characters are just large island lvl with Mel beeing slightly in advanced against each Admiral, but overall no hell Mel beating four characters in his league..

"Please explain to me how all of the sins combined attack cap out at small country level?"

By possibly destroying Britannia, anything above is unclear and can´t be use.

Mel vs one Admiral fine, Mel vs four Admirals, Admirals wins.

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Lmao at ace passive feat being even mentioned, since the dk presence caused cities to destroy, giant thunderstorms, extreme climates and high waves in all Britannia with his mere presence

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#53  Edited By Djibbo__

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@djibbo__: He’s not island level because injuring a person who no sells a city level attack isn’t enough proof for island level arguments.

Did that had to be said my son?

He busted the mountain he was on indirectly by hitting another target “iT’s HoLlOw”

Sliced mountains tops “DiDn’t BuSt ThEm”

they were several kms away, next?

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Is this still open? the admirals individually are not less than country, meliodas has no large island feats, and if they are going to take the mael dispersing clouds, it is still inferior to shake islands at abismal distance.

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Lmao at ace passive feat being even mentioned, since the dk presence caused cities to destroy, giant thunderstorms, extreme climates and high waves in all Britannia with his mere presence

And?

Akainu and Aokiji fight alone change the climate of a entire island, even after the battle was over, the climate was still changed not as with the fodder DK(sry for calling him fodder, but as a NnT fan you should know why I hate this character so much, he was fucking worse even his feats wasn´t impressiv after all) who extrem climates end when he was defeated..

Punkhazard after Akainu and Aokiji fight end one year ago:

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Alone that we debating about these presense weather manipulation or vapoing clouds is just ridiculous.

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@mevbi:

Here you go:

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Their still clouds on their area, he most like just cancel the power of the Sinner and not that the vape it complete...

Well it's impossible to completely erase any cloud varying in a small country area, but it's kinda obvious that he vaped the one that contained more mass.

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It doesn't seem pretty impressive to me.

Can you pls show me Drole feat and why you think it was 100km away?

Here you go and using Britannia's official map and just googling the distance between Liones and Vaizel we get around 100km.

For the Whitebeard feat, he shake a island far away(probably 100-1000km away) while using his power on MF and as we know their are only two other island who are around MF:

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And here to make clear how large the distance between each of the island are:

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"For a faster ship 80-100 miles. Anything between 50-100 miles a day is reasonable enough. You might go to 120 miles/day or so for a good ship in good conditions - that's an average 5 mph in the intended direction, which is about the highest plausible number pre-Age of Sail. A slow ship might make 30 miles/day."

The navy even had advantages to reach impel down, yet it need 4days to reach Impel down.

Let use the middle and say the Navy ship travel with 100miles a day and 4 days would be 643,738Km..

And you see nonear any island beside these four island, yet a island far away from these island get shaked by Whitebeard power:

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As you can see Whitebeard attack still have effect on island who are far away from MF...

The feat isn't impressive as you make it out to be. One of the strongest characters in One piece has feat almost the same as Dlore, complete fodder to the current god tiers.

As I said, can you pls show me these feats?

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Those big as castle are the size of a mountain.

He match up with Whitebeard Df power, he is on same lvl as Kuzan(even stronger) who could do this:

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He turn the sea into a continent of ice as the dude from last page even state it.

It looks like hyperbole to me

And if we using your logic again, Kuzan should be easily country-continent lvl by these feat...

Stop with this "your logic muh..." you litteraly showed one of the strongest One piece doing feat, mid tier in NNT could replicate.

Hear firsttime that the DK is country lvl, which feat put him to that lvl?

Scaling to previous forms and scaling to every character in the verse (besides a few)

If you again come up with weather shit manipulation, we have legit here Aokiji who is far beyond that lvl, so next...

Freezing a sea isn't remotely close as vaping clouds and dispeling portion darkness of one of the strongest demons

Again without wanking all five characters are just large island lvl with Mel beeing slightly in advanced against each Admiral, but overall no hell Mel beating four characters in his league..

You could literally ask the most knowledgeable NNT debater here(HTA) and see if he agrees with the BS you said

By possibly destroying Britannia, anything above is unclear and can´t be use.

So if I can destroy a city and some random guy shouts that I will destroy a house, does that mean I am house level?

Mel vs one Admiral fine, Mel vs four Admirals, Admirals wins.

Mel solos the verse

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@mevbi said:

^^^ and how Akainu vaping an iceberg, which size isn't even hill level, is better than most nnt high tiers? Also, the feat wasn't done casually.

Because clouds have very less density and a very low percentage of that is water in the first place. An iceberg is dense and homogenous throughout, not to mention this was Aokiji's ice which is far colder and denser than normal, so would require a lot more heat to vape. If you actually quantified the amount of water in those clouds, it probably wouldn't come much more than Jozu's iceberg due to the massive density difference.

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#58  Edited By Djibbo__

@tyki_mikk25 said:
@djibbo__ said:

Lmao at ace passive feat being even mentioned, since the dk presence caused cities to destroy, giant thunderstorms, extreme climates and high waves in all Britannia with his mere presence

And?

Akainu and Aokiji fight alone change the climate of a entire island, even after the battle was over, the climate was still changed not as with the fodder DK(sry for calling him fodder, but as a NnT fan you should know why I hate this character so much, he was fucking worse even his feats wasn´t impressiv after all) who extrem climates end when he was defeated..

Punkhazard after Akainu and Aokiji fight end one year ago:

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Alone that we debating about these presense weather manipulation or vapoing clouds is just ridiculous.

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2 mfs Terraforming And influencing the weather of and island indirectly from fighting<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<causomg drastical weather conditions to a small country from your mere presence

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@djibbo__: isnt that country weather thing from ban having the big bang with his girlfriend?

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#60 shirso  Online

That country weather thing is due to Britannia "rejecting" Meliodas coz his "power is too great" (whatever that means). It doesn't show Mel's passive power like some people would have you believe.

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Not to mention this is hardly quantifiable or permanent. Keeping the ocean boiling permanently and powering active volcanoes on an island while in contact with something as cold as Aokiji's ice, with the remnants of your lava from 2 years back is lot more quantifiably impressive and actually shows the Admirals' own power.

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@shirso said:

That country weather thing is due to Britannia "rejecting" Meliodas coz his "power is too great" (whatever that means). It doesn't show Mel's passive power like some people would have you believe.

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Not to mention this is hardly quantifiable or permanent. Keeping the ocean boiling permanently and powering active volcanoes on an island while in contact with something as cold as Aokiji's ice, with the remnants of your lava from 2 years back is lot more quantifiably impressive and actually shows the Admirals' own power.

Half right half not, because the feat isn’t done by nature alone. In fact it says “it’s almost as” in the panel, meaning that it isn’t completely that

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#62  Edited By HitTheAssasin

So, this thread is basically just the reboot of the Akainu vs Meliodas thread and all the stuff that went down there. Am I getting that right?

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So, this thread is basically just the reboot of the Akainu vs Meliodas thread and all the stuff that went down there. Am I getting that right?

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He busted the mountain he was on indirectly by hitting another target “iT’s HoLlOw”

If it was busted then they wouldn't be standing on it after the attack.

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But they are, none the less. Therefore Galan did not bust the mountain. Even if you want to argue that most of the force went into Escanor, the mountain they were wasn't anything big to begin with, and you would need to show it having the force to bust the whole object.

Sliced mountains tops “DiDn’t BuSt ThEm”

Since when did mountain tops have the same size as Evergreen trees and stone buildings?

they were several kms away, next?

Yes impressive, but how does this connect to Estarossa being island level?

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He busted the mountain he was on indirectly by hitting another target “iT’s HoLlOw”

If it was busted then they wouldn't be standing on it after the attack.

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But they are, none the less. Therefore Galan did not bust the mountain. Even if you want to argue that most of the force went into Escanor, the mountain they were wasn't anything big to begin with, and you would need to show it having the force to bust the whole object.

Sliced mountains tops “DiDn’t BuSt ThEm”

Since when did mountain tops have the same size as Evergreen trees and stone buildings?

they were several kms away, next?

Yes impressive, but how does this connect to Estarossa being island level?

Again, Escanor was scratche’d by that galan hit but 3 punches from esta nearly KO’d him

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Never seen any DC above Island level from one piece. Meliodas should win this.

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Never seen any DC above Island level from one piece. Meliodas should win this.

What DC feat does NNT have above island lvl except for their final amped and combined 8x full counter attack?

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#70  Edited By Djibbo__

@yray said:
@icemanbobbydrak said:

Never seen any DC above Island level from one piece. Meliodas should win this.

What DC feat does NNT have above island lvl except for their final amped and combined 8x full counter attack?

Gloxinia attack landing over the horizon but destroys the side of a mountain dozens of kms far from it?

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#76  Edited By Omnihater

The only island level feat of NNT is danaford, no more, just stop.

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#78  Edited By Djibbo__

@omnihater said:

The only island level feat of NNT is danaford, no more, just stop.

You literally just brought as an example of your wrong statement the Only feat we all agree at multi mountain

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@djibbo__: since when is the nnt movie canon?

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#80  Edited By Djibbo__

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@djibbo__: since when is the nnt movie canon?

Since the prisoners of the sky manga chapter, which should logically be and would connect everything

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#81 shirso  Online

Island lvl Gloxinia is a new one...

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@djibbo__:

what?

It has nothing wrong, there is nothing better in NNT than the danaford feat.

9kmx6km in pulverization, thats island level.

PS: What most people think is not evidence that something is true.

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Again, Escanor was scratche’d by that galan hit but 3 punches from esta nearly KO’d him

You mean Escanor ate those punches from Estarossa, considering he just got right back up, punches Estarossa, and makes the latter fall to his knees.

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Don't present this out of context...

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What is this showing exactly?

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Estarossa absolutely did not almost ko escanor... at no point was that even a real fight. The moment escanor went to attack, estarossa could not block or dodge anything. As further embarrassment, estarossa used full counter... and wait for it... still got hit by escanor.

Although striking is irrelevant against three elemental body characters, and with their logia abilities unrestricted.

I'll give the dc advantage to mel, but even then, aokiji and akainu are not that far behind by feats. Fujitora displayed at bare minimum multi-mountain lvl gravity manipulation when picking up the dressrosa rubble, which included the mountain sized body of pica.

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"Well it's impossible to completely erase any cloud varying in a small country area, but it's kinda obvious that he vaped the one "Well it's impossible to completely erase any cloud varying in a small country area, but it's kinda obvious that he vaped the one that contained more mass.."

Well you ask for any sign of a cloud I just post them. As I said the area was unclear, we didn´t know if he complete did it..

"It doesn't seem pretty impressive to me."

Yeah I think the same, yet I think Mael weather manipulate feat aren´t impressiv much either, he just did something with Ace did in pre ts. None of these feats are actually show the real AP of these characters and judging by feats Mael is at best multi mountain-small island lvl or did he perform any better feat?

"Here you go and using Britannia's official map and just googling the distance between Liones and Vaizel we get around 100km."

Can you pls show me the official map? Want to check it up by myself.

"The feat isn't impressive as you make it out to be. One of the strongest characters in One piece has feat almost the same as Dlore, complete fodder to the current god tiers."

Drole spam his attack into the earth and make these shockwaves, Whitebeard power using it to crack the air around him. And between 100km and 1000km++ who also making big as Tsunamis are big huge different, if we count that Whitebeard wasn´t even in his prime...

"Those big as castle are the size of a mountain."

And?

"It looks like hyperbole to me"

But it isn´t one, he freeze the whole route for the people who could walk around 3three islands to reach their goal. Alone if we count this feat, it would be easilys large island-country lvl...

"Stop with this "your logic muh..." you litteraly showed one of the strongest One piece doing feat, mid tier in NNT could replicate."

Between nerfed Whitebeard feat and Drole feat are leagues of different...

"Freezing a sea isn't remotely close as vaping clouds and dispeling portion darkness of one of the strongest demons"

Freezing whole sea is of course better then just counter the ability of a darkness Demon. In that case we don´t even know if he just vaping or counter it with his own sun ability.

"So if I can destroy a city and some random guy shouts that I will destroy a house, does that mean I am house level?"

That isn´t the case, first of all we didn´t know the full potential of Mel and the sins combinate attack, the first and only information with we know is that he could destroy Britannia. With means a solid small-normal country lvl attack, anything above would be just a speculation at this point.

"Mel solos the verse"

Via using headcanon,wanking,fanboying and unclear hyperbole feats, yes he could.

By their real feats he get smacked into the ground.

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Meliodas pretty casually. One piece characters can’t even get in WATER LOL.

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Well you ask for any sign of a cloud I just post them. As I said the area was unclear, we didn´t know if he complete did it..

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I'm saying it again. Mael erased Sinner's clouds and dispelled his darkness. The mass of his clouds was visibly bigger than normal clouds and it should be logical.

Yeah I think the same, yet I think Mael weather manipulate feat aren´t impressiv much either, he just did something with Ace did in pre ts. None of these feats are actually show the real AP of these characters and judging by feats Mael is at best multi mountain-small island lvl or did he perform any better feat?

Mael feat wasn't weathered manipulation tho. We see the clouds/darkness being blown away specifically by Mael. Ace feat was weather manipulation because his devil fruit litteraly gave him the powers of controlling flames and fire. Escanor just standing there could replicate the feat for more than just a day.

The whole cloud thingy is meant to show his overall power and should give you the idea he can casually beat island level characters. I agree it wouldn't cause island lvl damage to anyone, but indicates that his casual Cruel Suns could damage island level characters, which is kinda obvious since they scale to Escanor's

Can you pls show me the official map? Want to check it up by myself.

https://www.worldanvil.com/w/nnt-viragora/map/efa7f389-6aa8-456a-8c1a-b9e5f189995d

Drole spam his attack into the earth and make these shockwaves, Whitebeard power using it to crack the air around him. And between 100km and 1000km++ who also making big as Tsunamis are big huge different, if we count that Whitebeard wasn´t even in his prime...

Doesn't matter if he was spamming or not. You mean this right? And how this translates to Admiral's durability, Akainu was severely damaged by after one of these punches and almost died to one of them.

And?

And the whole kingdom has the mass of multiple mountains.

Between nerfed Whitebeard feat and Drole feat are leagues of different...

Not really and Drole is tiers below Meliodas.

That isn´t the case, first of all we didn´t know the full potential of Mel and the sins combinate attack, the first and only information with we know is that he could destroy Britannia. With means a solid small-normal country lvl attack, anything above would be just a speculation at this point.

Well it's kinda obvious that it should exceed country levels. "There is no telling what would happen to Britannia" Either you lowballer or you have no idea what AP is.

Via using headcanon,wanking,fanboying and unclear hyperbole feats, yes he could.

By their real feats he get smacked into the ground.

By headcanon, fanboying and wanking admiral win this, but without them, they get stomped alongside their verse

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#92  Edited By Kalebsmarty156

Meliodas Stomps

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Kizaru kicks him.

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Again, Escanor was scratche’d by that galan hit but 3 punches from esta nearly KO’d him

You mean Escanor ate those punches from Estarossa, considering he just got right back up, punches Estarossa, and makes the latter fall to his knees.

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What is this showing exactly?

Although I ofc Agree that the tops he sliced weren’t really big, the fact That they were caused by hitting escanor And from a large ass distance make it way more impressive.

Estarossa absolutely did not almost ko escanor... at no point was that even a real fight. The moment escanor went to attack, estarossa could not block or dodge anything. As further embarrassment, estarossa used full counter... and wait for it... still got hit by escanor.

Although striking is irrelevant against three elemental body characters, and with their logia abilities unrestricted.

I'll give the dc advantage to mel, but even then, aokiji and akainu are not that far behind by feats. Fujitora displayed at bare minimum multi-mountain lvl gravity manipulation when picking up the dressrosa rubble, which included the mountain sized body of pica.

1)ofc then escanor got back in force, he went The One, 1 single hit from zoro wouldnt really scratch escanor.

2)”multi mountain gravity manipulation” ???????????

And why even mentioning logia if mel has 4 and I repeat F O U R ways to elude it?

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@shirso: No you forget meliodas has assault mode, demon king Meliodas, and super regen and if we are talking about meliodas before he broke his curse then you would know that makes him immortal if they kill him he will come back even stronger meliods kills all admirals you saw what he did to Estarossa and Zedris, and what he did to Escanor the one, you also saw how he has killed multiple elite demons

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"I'm saying it again. Mael erased Sinner's clouds and dispelled his darkness. The mass of his clouds was visibly bigger than normal clouds and it should be logical."

The problem here starts already with no information if he complete did it around the half country, we don´t have any information. The panel which you show was already after the Sinner was taking down, so no darkness cloud couldn´t see in that picture.

"Mael feat wasn't weathered manipulation tho. We see the clouds/darkness being blown away specifically by Mael. Ace feat was weather manipulation because his devil fruit litteraly gave him the powers of controlling flames and fire. Escanor just standing there could replicate the feat for more than just a day."

Ace stay one day in Drum, if we want he can totally change the weather their aswell, I mean two admirals change the climatic of a whole island forever by their battle alone, even after one year pass. Also again we don´t really know how Mael did it, my opinion is that his power was just above these of the Sinner so he could use his power over the power of the sinner alone by his presence.

"The whole cloud thingy is meant to show his overall power and should give you the idea he can casually beat island level characters. I agree it wouldn't cause island lvl damage to anyone, but indicates that his casual Cruel Suns could damage island level characters, which is kinda obvious since they scale to Escanor's"

Casually?? He put out his best feat(currently) to take out the Sinner, but I agree he beating a island lvl character is still impressiv, but also Mael is still one of the strongest character in NnT so... In that case Akainu casually beat a island lvl character as Ace aswell, scaling work for One piece aswell here.

"https://www.worldanvil.com/w/nnt-viragora/map/efa7f389-6aa8-456a-8c1a-b9e5f189995d"

""Whitebeard shaking a island isn't very impressive considering Drole (fodder beyond fodder to current Meliodas) was able to shake the entire kingdom of Liones, which was 100km away."

Now I check it up by myself and you said 100km, but the distance was barely 50km, how you come up with 100km??

Between 1000km+ and 50km are very big difference...

"Doesn't matter if he was spamming or not. You mean this right? And how this translates to Admiral's durability, Akainu was severely damaged by after one of these punches and almost died to one of them."

No it was this one when Whitebeard shake islands far away with his power:

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One hand simple df quake power already shake a island far away, Akainu could match these punches, also he tank them.

Akainu get two directly attacks(one on the head) by a bloodlust Whitebeard, yet Akainu was still after that totally fine, he take care about the whole Whitebeard pirates, before he beat Ivankov easily without much problems. Akainu was far from beeing defeated.

"And the whole kingdom has the mass of multiple mountains."

What are you try to say? I don´t understand you point here.

"Not really and Drole is tiers below Meliodas."

While 50km Drole with spamming his attack into the ground(one of his strongest) and Whitebeard who use simple casually punch df quake attack with shake island 1000km+ away from MF... So they aren´t equal, Whitebeard feat is far above...

"Well it's kinda obvious that it should exceed country levels. "There is no telling what would happen to Britannia" Either you lowballer or you have no idea what AP is."

Well I don´t understand you point, I already said that the feat was small country to country lvl, I mean a lvl above these levels are just a speculation. Mel + all Sins reach a lvl of small country to country lvl which was enough to kill off the DK...

In that case Mel who is equal to the DK(or little above) is just below that lvl(at least in durability)...

"By headcanon, fanboying and wanking admiral win this, but without them, they get stomped alongside their verse"

By feats and facts, four Admirals are to much for Mel to handle, Admiral wins without much problems.

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