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Ah...And the reason why Natsu's Raging flames of emotion burned him is because the flames were burning both Magic and the concept of time itself.(it was stated that he was burning "time" and magic)

Either that or because Anna reopened the time lapse , he lost his rewind ability momentarily and rendering him unable to rewind time as usual.

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Zeref stomps

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#103  Edited By lichvanastrea

This is the first time I'm hearing about continental Zeref and yet no feats provided still. Just meaningless statements.

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Zeref stomps

You mean the guy who lost to natsu? How does he beat any version of melodias?

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@son_of_mori-jin: Meliodas literally having Azeri way to kill him?

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@son_of_mori-jin: Meliodas literally having Azeri way to kill him?

Hellblazer , revenge counter, splattering his body into paste,

Zeref was almost killed by natsu twice so it's safe to say zeref is immortal in the sense of that he doesn't age not that he can't be killed.

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@faradaysloth said:

@son_of_mori-jin: Meliodas literally having Azeri way to kill him?

Hellblazer , revenge counter, splattering his body into paste,

Zeref was almost killed by natsu twice so it's safe to say zeref is immortal in the sense of that he doesn't age not that he can't be killed.

Zeref just rewinds time. None of those things can counter Fairy Heart

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@son_of_mori-jin said:
@faradaysloth said:

@son_of_mori-jin: Meliodas literally having Azeri way to kill him?

Hellblazer , revenge counter, splattering his body into paste,

Zeref was almost killed by natsu twice so it's safe to say zeref is immortal in the sense of that he doesn't age not that he can't be killed.

Zeref just rewinds time. None of those things can counter Fairy Heart

If natsu flames can counter fairy heart then so can hellblaze

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@son_of_mori-jin: that’s not really how it works tho

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@son_of_mori-jin: just because Meliodas beats Natsu in arm wrestling doesn’t mean hellblaze can replicate what Natsu did... which was unexplainable and can’t really be used as an anti feat

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Zeref solos. Hellblaze ain't doing jack squat to a guy who's immortality protects him from existence erasure,soul rip and soul erasure. Not to mention his time rewind abilities.

And lol at comparing Hellblaze to Natsu's flames.

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This is the first time I'm hearing about continental Zeref and yet no feats provided still. Just meaningless statements.

This

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#113 cocacolaman  Moderator

Is there any reasonable counter for Fairy Heart?

I’m not saying who wins or who loses. This is a genuine question. Can someone please explain to me, without bullcrap, what legit counters there are to Fairy Heart other than “He’ll just keep attacking, bruh” and “Natsu did it” since neither are solid arguments.

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#114  Edited By VarricPatermann

@gridgod007 said:

Debunked shit.No one ever DEBUNKED anything.Only a part of the explosion was shown in the panel.It's just people trying their hardest to downplay Fairy Tail no matter what.It is a fact that it could destroy the country and mashima wanted to convey it to us, and even the narrator states that the etherion cannon can destroy a country.

Then show a feat that put Etherion on country level. Therefore it is still debunked. You can´t give someone feats, that he never has shown.

And about the size of Fiore...

The distance between Hargeon and Magnolia is 370km.You can look at the Map of Fiore and scale how large Fiore actually is.

It turns out that the area of Fiore is ATLEAST 18 million sq.km in area.And Fiore is actually a very small country compared to the other countries.

Then please, source for the Offizial numbers.

Even Brandish has an atleast Large Country level DC although not AP.She already did demolish countries and earned that title.

Afaik she can shrink some landmass, that isn´t a Country level DC feat.

LMAO I was not even talking about his Death magic(which is a lower version of ankhseram black magic) hax when I said his Hax.I was talking about his time space manipulation hax.And he also has existence erasure if we include Mard Geer via Memento Mori.

Did Mard Geer his Memento Mori ever erase someone from existence?

He also was killed by Natsu his firettack, which isn´t evean existence erasure ability

And Hell blaze? Seriously?

You're talking as if he's a common immortal, he can REWIND time.He would rewind time to the point when he was not even affected by the He'll blaze.

If he "can" rewind at this point:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/7ux4q2/zeref_from_fairy_tail_is_not_as_op_as_everyone/

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Spriggans dies horribly at round 2+3. After i think a bit about it, Zeref probably takes it, since he is immortal. I am not on the current status with Nanatsu no Taizai.

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I still believe zeref solos the seven deadly sins(not the verse).

He stomps meliodas.

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Zeref isn't stomping Meliodas, come on now.

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Zeref solos.

S12 stomp even without him.

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Why wouldn't people understand that Natsu has literally vaporized Zeref and yet he Rewinded time to come back to his prime state...

And no.Natsu didn't kill Zeref, not even once

Zeref died due to the curse of contradiction contradicting itself and moreover Anna opened the time lapse and zeref lost his control over the time lapse at that moment.

Moreover Natsu's Raging flames of emotion were said to be Burning TIME which in this case can be considered to be Burning the concept of time.Meliodas never had any anti Time manipulation hax.

Nothing meliodas ever had is doing a thing to Zeref.

And about the distance between Hargeon and Magnolia, it was said based on the conversation between Wall and Dimaria.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:2025460?useskin=oasis

And about Dragon Cry scaling...

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DemonGodMitchAubin/Dragon_Cry%27s_Power_Redone_Properly

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Meliodas would one shot anyone in the Ft verse. Stop the wank

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Spriggan stomp R1 and low diff R2. AM Mel gives them the business.

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R1: Spriggans stomp

R2: Spriggans stomp

R3: Meliodas stomps

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Meliodas utterly annihilates them. Full counter can 1 shot Individual or Revenge counter can one all. Assault mode solo’d with darkness.

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Nobody Bar Zeref is relevant here. And zeref is relevant due to his immortality

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@ecoblitz said:

Nobody Bar Zeref is relevant here. And zeref is relevant due to his immortality

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If they can get past Full Counter and don't have PIS weighing them down

Any Spriggan solos

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#128 cocacolaman  Moderator

Is there any reasonable counter for Fairy Heart?

I’m not saying who wins or who loses. This is a genuine question. Can someone please explain to me, without bullcrap, what legit counters there are to Fairy Heart other than “He’ll just keep attacking, bruh” and “Natsu did it” since neither are solid arguments.

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Spriggan stomp R1 and 2.

Current AM Mel makes a clone and chills while it stomps the fodder.

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Spriggan stomp R1 and 2.

Current AM Mel makes a clone and chills while it stomps the fodder.

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R1:The spriggans or zeref solos

R2:The spriggans or zeref solos

R3:Some spriggans high-diff and zeref still solos

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R1:The spriggans or zeref solos

R2:The spriggans or zeref solos

R3:Some spriggans high-diff and zeref still solos

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@caocao said:
@worldofruin6 said:

Spriggan stomp R1 and 2.

Current AM Mel makes a clone and chills while it stomps the fodder.

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Spriggan stomp R1 and 2.

Current AM Mel makes a clone and chills while it stomps the fodder.

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Current Meliodas should be country level. So he beats them all in round three. Other than that he gets stomped.

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R1: Spriggans + Zeref Stomp. Mel has no answer to shrink hax by Brandish, Time Stop hax by Dimaria, Magic null by august, and enchant hax by Irene. Even then zeref can time stop and insta death hax.

R2: This can go either way. Mel could take out at least 6 spriggans ez, but Dimaria can time stop, and Zeref is still immortal. Meliodas can also blitz the hard hitting spriggans first.

R3: Unless August's power null works now, or if Zeref's immortality isn't hard countered by Hellblaze, Mel blitzes and stomps.

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Bump

Any mid or higher tier Spriggan should be able to take a W on EoS Mel, since the sins most powerful attack amped multiple times was only small country level, nevermind AM Mel who doesn't even compare.

Brandish alone has an island level feat while flexing and country level statements, along with the fodder Wall who could use an Etherion cannon at will. Now compare that to Irene who warped an entire country quite possibly bigger than Britannia in her base form, Mel dies horribly.

The myth that FT top tiers are fodder to NNT has to stop

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Irene alone can compete with meliodas. Adding zeref and the spriggians guarantee they win

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Spriggans stomp every round

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Zeref and his Shields

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@manofthunderbolts65: Mel's presence alone was destroying the world because he was too strong and brandish's ability is useless because it doesn't work on someone stronger than her. I think you should stop the FT wank

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Zeref or Irene solo stomps

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Zeref should solo round 3 since this is only AM Mel.

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lower members of the sprrigan 12 solos