@gotoucanario: Why is it nonsense, even though no one has argued for Genjutsu one shotting anyway.
Meliodas, Escanor, and Merlin vs Akatsuki
@marc_55: I'm asking you does the nano bomb can be equate to the sun in which Escanor is emitting because if the heat of the sun itself that Escanor is emits from his body doesn't destroy him how can a bunch of nano bombs will? cellular attack can't do shit if the attack potency is not enough to destroy the cell of the character, now I'm asking you again show proof that the nano bombs is enough to destroy escanor cells that is withstanding the heat that can melt a stone castle.
@deathhero61: @johnpeterbanana: @highaccuser: @sirfizzwhizz: @ithemanwithoutfeari: The is kind of confusing. How do the 10 commandments stomp the akatsuki in that thread, but Mel gets stomped by the akatsuki? Am I missing something?
I don't seen how this isn't fair. And there's no six paths obito
Well the Ten commandments did stomp Mel and killed him.
This^ Each commandment alone could put up a fight against Meliodas. Even Current Meliodas would still lose to all of them together.....
With Merlin and Escanor here that evens the odds a lot better now. I'll say sins for now and see what everyone else says.
@ithemanwithoutfeari: @sirfizzwhizz: No, he was about to kill all 10 of them with revenge counter, and in that moment he forgot about Estarossa's commandment, which negates attacks that have animosity in them
Lmao Mel stepped in and started beating Dolor and Gloxina after Escanor warmed them up for Mel. He basically fought them while they were weakened and was ready to take them down. Then right after, all the commandments hop in and start jumping the hell out of Meliodas. Two commandments at the time were already as strong as him(stronger actually) while the rest of them had enough power to challenge and deal damage to Meliodas.
Granted he was half dead already
Because he was getting stomped.
As far the hax statement, the commandments have for more hax than the akatsuki, each commandment has their own specific ability that bypasses durability, but that didnt stop Meli from blitzing tgem, and slicing and dicing through everyone. The only hax I saw that'd pose a problem was Itachi's genjutsu, ehich i restricted as to make it more fair.
@deathhero61: @johnpeterbanana: @highaccuser: @sirfizzwhizz: @ithemanwithoutfeari: The is kind of confusing. How do the 10 commandments stomp the akatsuki in that thread, but Mel gets stomped by the akatsuki? Am I missing something?
I don't seen how this isn't fair. And there's no six paths obito
Well the Ten commandments did stomp Mel and killed him.
This^ Each commandment alone could put up a fight against Meliodas. Even Current Meliodas would still lose to all of them together.....
Nah. Current Mel was twice as strong as he was when he fought the commandments the first time. And the way he manhandled Fraudrin, Monspiet, and Derrerie makes it obvious he could solo all 10 with minimal effort now. His power level is even higher than Escanor´s now, though it should be noted Escanor wasn´t at full noon when he fought Estarossa
@god_vulcan: Not even remotely true, his current power level is not that much different from Estarossa's, Escanor's and Zeldris as he is right now. And even they would have trouble fighting all the commandments by themselves.
@deathhero61: We don´t know Zeldris´ power level, and you forgot that Meli hasn´t tried yet
Let´s just wait for more feats, but I think he could work them
@god_vulcan: Going strictly based off powerlevels along with Mel's demon mark boost, he can beat any of them individually. But any of the top brass of the commandments would still put up a fight. Which means all of them together would still be a threat.
@deathhero61: yes, and all of them together would stomp akatsuki, so I don't see why it was that much of a mismatch originally
But I've edited it now anyways. Because of Merlin's hax I might allow 6 paths Obito with Rinnegan, but not Juubito
It's closer now... I am tempted to say the sin trio, but I'm sure that Akatsuki could come up with someting in a week. Merlin, as always, makes things complicated. I still trust Akatsuki in winning. By themselves, they should hold up pretty well (sometimes even ending up winning IMO), so Akatsuki (but I don't know what their chances are, though).
@deathhero61: yes, and all of them together would stomp akatsuki, so I don't see why it was that much of a mismatch originally
But I've edited it now anyways. Because of Merlin's hax I might allow 6 paths Obito with Rinnegan, but not Juubito
It's because of their commandment and the akatsuki's lack of stats that they lose to the commandments. The reason why the Akatsuki wins against Mel is because not only do they have prep, the number advantage helps a lot in that case.
You keep mentioning Mel vs the commandments when Mel got his ass handed to him so hard it's ridiculous. He put up a fight, but Estarossa and Zeldris did most of the work, and they barely had to lift as much as a finger due to the huge number advantage and the fact that their commandments and different techniques and spells were preventing Meliodas from getting the upper hand or escaping.
In the case of Akatsuki vs Commandments, they have no particular advantage. The numbers advantage they would have had against Meliodas is practically non-existent, their abilities won't be as effective since ALL of them are faster or as fast as the top brass of the Akatsuki, fighting only Meliodas is different from fighting at least 3-6 people(Galan, Estarossa, Zeldris, Derriere, Monspiet, Dolor, Gloxina) with comparable but inferior/superior stats or abilities to Meliodas, the person who the Akatsuki would have to prep for to actually win against.
Basically
Ten Commandments as a group>> Meliodas by himself.
Edit: On topic, like i said it's more even now with Merlin and Escanor helping him out due to different factors.
Let's spread some bias... (jk)
I'd side with the sins in a easy win and almost stomps because:
-Escanor can kill almost all of them with his passive heat.
-Escanor and Mel dura, the Akatsuki can't hurt them without specific attacks.
-Merlin is hax as f##k.
-Obvious speed difference, which is enormous tbh.
-Obvious DC difference.
@god_vulcan: with prep, akatsuki stomp.
Current Mel and escanor together can take this and having Merlin back them up is just simple not fair
@marc_55: what's the assumption that they are durable but their cells are not based on? Seems pretty backwards and wrong. If they are durable, their cells (which make them up) would be just as durable.
Mel escanor and merlin s**t stomp the akatsuki here
@marc_55: what's the assumption that they are durable but their cells are not based on? Seems pretty backwards and wrong. If they are durable, their cells (which make them up) would be just as durable.
Mel escanor and merlin s**t stomp the akatsuki here
Their cells are durable cuz Estarossa at around 88k or whatever tanked molecular attacks
Sins stomp hard, but a bloodlusted Itachi could kill Escanor or Merlin with his Tsukiyomi, assuming novel feats are allowed.
Let's spread some bias... (jk)
I'd side with the sins in a easy win and almost stomps because:
-Escanor can kill almost all of them with his passive heat.
true but that isnt happening
-Escanor and Mel dura, the Akatsuki can't hurt them without specific attacks.
true, specific attacks would still one shot them tho
-Merlin is hax as f##k.
true but yh she couldnt handle sealed galland or chandler? lmao
-Obvious speed difference, which is enormous tbh.
speed difference?? only fast characters here are mel and escanor.....itachi/obito/nagato blitz everyone on that team
-Obvious DC difference.
lmfao at this, what the highest DC mel's team has shown? multi mountain lvl? diedera could drop a bomb that could clear a city, same with konan, rinnegan obito can summon a meteorite that can cause earthquake that can be felt countries away and that happened due to the meteorite being stopped, if that was let to freely crash, it would have caused city lvl DC, obito summons juubi, weaker version of juubi was spamming city busters casually, nagato can literally soul suck mel and merlin in an instant via soul sucking dragon....itachi/obito/nagato, each can solo, no need for the whole akatsuki
this is a spite, akatsuki takes this mid diff
@marc_55: what's the assumption that they are durable but their cells are not based on? Seems pretty backwards and wrong. If they are durable, their cells (which make them up) would be just as durable.
Mel escanor and merlin s**t stomp the akatsuki here
the c4 are nano bombs that sneak into ur bloodstream and detonate from the inside out, there is no way their inside is as durable as their outside especially when its destroying the cells individually, its only escanor i see surviving the c4, the others gets disintegrated from the inside out
I see this going one of two ways. The Sins stomp, or Itachi gets them under genjutsu first and then they win via hax like totska blade, soul steal, C4, ect.
If anybody watched today’s episode kid Merlin can battle field removal anyone with a simple gesture.
Mel kinda solos
Escanor solos
Merlin via bs hax x infinity solos
Mel has the physicals to one shots about most of the crew here. This is basically Galand vs the holy knights again.
Escanor's passive heat and cruel sun have better feats than Amaterasu. Not that it matters he one shots harder than Meliodas. The sins all blitz in character.
Merlin has resistance to soul and mental manipulation and can undo genjutsu attacking the senses. Mel has also shown soul manipulation resistance while half dead and Escanir straight up burned the person who touched his
No one here is busting out of Perfect Cube unless you wanna say Akatsuki > DK Meliodas>>>>Assault Mode Meliodas.
Merlin can spam teleport on herself indefinitely with "Infinity" or just tp projectiles back at the sender.
Escanor could just aoe the place with just flexing his aura alone and vape everyone there(Melted an entire stone castle in his weakest day state just by doing so)
Meliodas could also aoe darkness the area( vaped an entire country/kingdom and created a 30,000ft deep hole.) And yes he's done this on command in the vampires of Edinburgh arc.
TL;DR: Akatsuki get stomped due to stat difference and resistance
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