I think there is a fair amount salt and bias of both sides; but what are we really doing here guys? Just discussing some fictional characters and how it would go down if they fought right?
Id just like us to develop, or I guess have it explained to me, how exactly we should go about making the vine a bit more fair, with consistent standards on things like scaling.
Here is a example (definitely not the only time things like this come up, but I have these gifs and think its a good example so lets use this as our test case)
MCU Spiderman vs DCEU Wonder Woman in strength.
A lot of people scale Diana directly to Kryptonains, but completely dismiss Spiderman scaling to Giantman, Cull, and Thanos.
WonderWomans Kryptonian scaling feats are...
Stopped a blow from DD with her sword. ^^
Tied up DD with her lasso.^
Spidermans Thanos and Cull scaling feats are..
Staggering Thanos 3 times...if you look SM grabs Thanos but the head and bends him over with that second hit... I dont know how you can say Diana 'staggered' superman with her head butt, but SM didnt stagger Thanos 3 times.
Spiderman pulls thanos arm down and takes a clothesline. ^^
Spiderman directly overpowers Cull. ^^ (Blocking with a sword is perfect scaling, while SM blocking with his bare hands is not scaling at all; according to some)
Spiderman directly overpowers Cull again.(That it was controversial in IW and they had him do it in the next movie speaks volumes imo)
I mean honestly people dont even accept that Spiderman staggered Giantman here, but call Diana slightly moving Supermans head staggered.
I just dont know why Dianas scaling would be considered legit but SMs scaling wouldnt.
It cant be there performances in solo movies, his lifting feats outside of scaling are much better than hers.
It cant be Superman/Thanos consistency, both have there PIS moments, Superman hit Batman for goodness sake.
I just think it would be more fun if we all debated with a consistent standard in regard to things like feats and scaling, and what we consider staggered.
I just dont know how you could call the headbutt staggered, and the SM punches not staggered.
If there are any hard and fast rules you think should be applied to scaling let us know.
I know there will be the urge to troll on this thread, but for the good of this hobby of ours, and to keep having fun; can we just have a polite discussion on what constitutes scaling, and when it should be used... I think we can all do a bit better (myself included); maybe that can start here.