MCU War Machine vs DCEU Wonder Woman

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Rules:

Showings restricted to Wonder Woman/Iron Man solo films/tie-ins. Gears stack with the rounds.

Opponents start at opposite ends of this path.

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Round 1:

No gear

Round 2

Diana gets lasso and bracelets, Rhodey gets repulsors rays/sonics

Round 3

Diana gets sword and shield, Rhodey gets a fully functional Hammer arsenal, including his minigun

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Rond 1 Rrhodey easily, stronger, more durable

Round 2, even easier win given sonics and repulsors and her lack of durabiltiy to tank them for long

Round 3 He just shoots her lol she has no feats, she has no feats to show she can deflect this

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@eredin12 said:

Rond 1 Rrhodey easily, stronger, more durable

Round 2, even easier win given sonics and repulsors and her lack of durabiltiy to tank them for long

Round 3 He just shoots her lol she has no feats, she has no feats to show she can deflect this

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@eredin12: The funniest part was how many bullets was inside Hammer's minigun. IIRC the filmmakers even talked about how they had to balance the realistic part with the fictional but I think their definition of realistic =/= ours. Stark prolly made a pocket dimension for Rhodey to contain his ammo.

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@eredin12: The funniest part was how many bullets was inside Hammer's minigun. IIRC the filmmakers even talked about how they had to balance the realistic part with the fictional but I think their definition of realistic =/= ours. Stark prolly made a pocket dimension for Rhodey to contain his ammo.

Lol.

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@rajjarsalt: Lol yeah i was thinking that as well, he somehow had enough bullets in that tiny minigun and equipment to pretty much erase small bulding seized the structure, pocket dimension is the only explanation if we want to be realistic

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WM is like a perfect counter to Diana.

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#9  Edited By NWName

WW statues and beats his ass

WW statues and beats his ass

WW statues and cuts him in half

Edit: Solo only sword might not cut WM. So she beats him up again.

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Depending on how weak she is in her newest film she may very well lose this as she's never shown anything to suggest she can deflect bullets and missiles simultaneously

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@mossbeard: Weakened Diana literally statued and lassoed a .50 cal in her new movie. Wait til the calcs come out, but I'd say its around MHS.

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#14  Edited By HydratedFubuki6

@mossbeard: I have the clip but not gif. I can't hide it with the Spoiler Block for some reason, so Spoiler Alert everyone!

the feat starts at 0:30

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Yeah, that's Weakened Diana doing it. High Hypersonic more likely, she scales to be upper High Hypersonic after she regain her full powers (without counting the lightning timing feat since it might be an outlier). Her traversal (lassoing the clouds to accelerate her new flight power) was pretty fast too.

OT: I'm not sure, I rather wait for calcs and more feats to be recognized which I may have missed. But if Diana has proven to be High Hypersonic, she statues and stomps WM.

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@hydratedfubuki6: Where did you find the movie? Also it might be really hard to calc due to feats like these involving perspective etc. but eyeballing it, her lasso should be moving at highly hypersonic speed (mach 10-25). Lightning feat might not be good as everyone makes it out to be iirc we dont see how fast it moves relative to edge of lightning, only that its fast enough to reach it before it ends. Also this feat being done by weakened Diana is pretty crazy.

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Diana wins all rounds.

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#18  Edited By Speedyamell

When will people learn the mcu robotmen stand no chance against dceu high tiers :(

Diana blitzes and oneshots all rounds

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  1. Diana beats him down
  2. Diana crushes the Armor with the Lasso
  3. Diana decapitates

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Diana is getting fragged

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War machine stomp all round WW is fodder.

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They some drunk ass people in this thread.. :|

How you post a gif of someone literally not trying to dodge and then use it to claim "kryptonian >> wonder woman speed"

How you show someone failing to react to bullets and then claim they faster than diana when diana actually has consistent feats of casual bullet timing??

Ofcourse it's expected that you'd sound ridiculous when trying to argue against an obvious stomp such as this but at least try to make it seem like you have some sort off common sense :(

Also not someone literally using a pre viz to make an argument.. i-

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@subline said:
  1. Diana beats him down
  2. Diana crushes the Armor with the Lasso
  3. Diana decapitates

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lol all these alts

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#28  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@nwname said:

WW statues and beats his ass

WW statues and beats his ass

WW statues and cuts him in half

Edit: Solo only sword might not cut WM. So she beats him up again.

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Based on WW84 she seems to be better against single rounds but with more being shot at her, they can still tag her.

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Diana one shots him in ever round, even without gear. If she can knock back Superman's head when a village busting drone missile or a massive building explosion that shook the surrounding area couldn't even budge him then there's no hope for Iron Man lite

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Further more we watched her force back Doomsday by leaping at him even though he was smacking around a blitzing Superman casually. She could probably one shot with a tackle

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My bad, didn't read this was Jenkinsverse.

War Machine wins R1/R2, would back Diana in R3 though.

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Round 1: No Gear.

So that's just a soldier versus an Amazon who has headbutted Superman and survived TWO headbutts from him and a backhand. Wonder Woman turns him to paste. WONDER WOMAN

Round 2: Lasso & Bracelets + Sonics/repulsors

War Machine will probably hurt WW but the lasso tips the scales and the shockwave off the braclets. WONDER WOMAN

Round 3: Full Gear

War Machine with all the jazz will be overpowering. She can block some but the sheer volume of bullets, explosives, concussives, repulsors plus being able to fly gives him such a tactical advantage. She could throw her sword at him going for an insta-kill but honestly it'd be a hail Mary toss. WAR MACHINE

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@batkevin74: @the_gaurdian said:

Diana one shots him in ever round, even without gear. If she can knock back Superman's head when a village busting drone missile or a massive building explosion that shook the surrounding area couldn't even budge him then there's no hope for Iron Man lite

Reading OP before making comment is usually a good thing to do

"Showings restricted to Wonder Woman/Iron Man solo films/tie-ins."

So no feats from JL and BvS, not only that but pushing back Superman's head is something bullets did as well, so that scaling does bot work, and trying to scale WW to DD is just wrong after JL where she was shown to be dozens of times weaker than Clark alone, not to mention that surviving 2 hits from Superman is not something WM cannot do, he is not just soldier, he has super stats thanks to the armor

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Already been done, War Machine wins

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@eredin12: She'll still beat him lmfao. He's not touching her with bullets and her strength is still more than enough to remove the faceplate and kill him that way. Adding the lasso and bracelets is overkill

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It's gonna be real funny on this site when Wonder Woman is portrayed as a high tier in ZSJL the same way she was in BvS. It'll be surprising to literally nobody expect the same circle that do all sorts of mental gymnastics to paint her as a street leveler

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#37  Edited By EcoBlitz

@the_gaurdian: uhhh Wonder Woman doesn’t have any physical feats to contend with rhodey. Just pure limiting physical feats...

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@eredin12: She'll still beat him lmfao. He's not touching her with bullets and her strength is still more than enough to remove the faceplate and kill him that way. Adding the lasso and bracelets is overkill

Her best strenght feat is lifting 30-ton tank with effort, so no, i am afraid its not doing anything to somone as durable as him, and yes he will touch her, given that she has no feats to block his arsenal

her featless lasso and bracelets are not doing beating him eaither( once agian no BvS scaling and even if there was, JL retconned her to mid tier )

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@eredin12: Her best strength feat is overpowering Ares' TK which we know allows him to casually throw around hundreds if not thousands of tons of solid stone. She did it while wrapped in steel tank treads. That makes her significantly stronger than Rhodey right off the bat. Her bracelets also literally stopped Ares and his projectiles in the movie. Even if that wasn't an option it wouldn't matter because she's casually faster than bullets and lighting. Since Rhodey's never tagged anyone that fast he's getting blitzed then one shotted.

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Diana one shots him in ever round, even without gear. If she can knock back Superman's head when a village busting drone missile or a massive building explosion that shook the surrounding area couldn't even budge him then there's no hope for Iron Man lite

Lmao Hellfire missiles are village busting?

How about this explosion then?

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@the_gaurdian:

Her best strength feat is overpowering Ares' TK which we know allows him to casually throw around hundreds if not thousands of tons of solid stone. She did it while wrapped in steel tank treads. That makes her significantly stronger than Rhodey right off the bat

No? She never overpowered his TK, he did not restian her directly with his TK but with some metal around her lol, she just broke that metal, and after that, like literaly a few minutes after, she struggled with lifting a 30-ton tank, so much about her overpowering his TK and being multi thousend toner

Her bracelets also literally stopped Ares and his projectiles in the movie

His featless projectiles, not impressed

. Even if that wasn't an option it wouldn't matter because she's casually faster than bullets and lighting. Since Rhodey's never tagged anyone that fast he's getting blitzed then one shotted.

Oh, he will surely be one shotted by her great striking feats, wait a second, what where those feats agian? Destroying concrete walls or a few of them? Lol, and she is not faster than lighting either in combat, please show proof of that, she was only shown to be faster than bullets but, WM has reacted to supersonic and above thigns as well, or Tony did( tank shell remember) that he scales to and his other strenght nad durabiltiy edge, which is a big one, makes her speed edge not that important, especially since she never showed great leg speed, so she cannot just blitz him with a sword before he can fly in the air

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@eredin12 said:

@the_gaurdian:

No? She never overpowered his TK,he did not restian her directly with his TK but with some metal around her lol, she just broke that metal, and after that, she struggled with lifting 30 ton tank, so much about her overpowering his TK and being multi thousend toner lol

He wrapped her in tank treads and when she was angered by Steve's death she broke out of them which caused him to fly back. It truly can't get any more clear cut that she overcame his TK but even if he wasn't restraining her in that moment steel still has a tensile strength that would but her in class 1K+ easily. And why are you making things up? She picked up the tank with literally no signs of struggle and casually threw it.

His featless projectiles, not impressive

Lmfao we watch his same weapons carve through stone like butter and even knock Diana off her feet even though she was casually slapping mortar rounds and caving in towers. Even of they were featless how would bullets and rockets even break through the barrier without being disintegrated?

One shotted by her featless striking, what was her best feat agian? Breaking concrete wall or few of them?Lol, and she is not faster than lighting either in combat, please show proof of that, she was only shown to be faster than bullets but, WM has reacted to supersonic and above thigns as well, or Tony did( tank shell remember) that he scales to and his other strenght nad durabiltiy edge, which is a big one, makes her speed edge not that important , especially since she never showed great leg speed, so she cannot just blitz him with sword before he can fly in air

We watch her perceive bullets in slow motion, blitz through a small army of soldiers in the airfield and she blocked lightning TWICE. On top of that when she was blitzing through soldiers after Steve's death she was even able to reflect bullets back at soldiers from all angles while still moving forward. We also see her slice, reflect and casually move faster than bullets. Is this a joke?

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@the_gaurdian:

He wrapped her in tank treads and when she was angered by Steve's death she broke out of them which caused him to fly back. It truly can't get any more clear cut that she overcame his TK but even if he wasn't restraining her in that moment steel still has a tensile strengthhat would but her in class 1K+ easily. And why are you making things up? She picked up the tank with literally no signs of struggle and casually threw it.

Yeah he used his TK to warp steel around her, which restained her, she got angry and pulverized that steel, but she never overpowered his direct TK, and if she did she would not struggle with lifting a 30-ton tank a few minutes after, as for making things up, right just look at her effortless face while doing it

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no signs of struggle there right?

Lmfao we watch his same weapons carve through stone like butter and even knock Diana off her feet even though she was casually slapping mortar rounds and caving in towers. Even of they were featless how would bullets and rockets even break through the barrier without being disintegrated?

First, are you really comparing going thrugh stone and old WW1 mortals with what WM can do lol? Second, that barrier was only in her God mode, something she does not normally have, we were talking about featless lasso and bracelets

We watch her perceive bullets in slow motion, blitz through a small army of soldiers in the airfield and she blocked lightning TWICE. On top of that when she was blitzing through soldiers after Steve's death she was even able to reflect bullets back at soldiers from all angles while still moving forward. We also see her slice, reflect and casually move faster than bullets. Is this a joke?

Sure she was blitzing people, but what i siad is that she never moved at some hypersonic speed with her legs, as far as i know, so she cannot relly blitz him before he flies up, seeing bullets in slow motion is not leg speed, and the lightning thing is not leg speed eaither, not to mention that she blocked magical one from Ares, not normal one, second as i said Iron Man dodged hypersonic tank shell easily at close range, sure she is faster but it cannot save her from his weapons, strenght, and durability

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1. WM - Diana has a good strength advantage (overpowering Ares's TK). Rhodey has a very solid striking advantage. Durability wise, Diana's been punched a few hundred feet, Rhodey's tanked his own slam so he should come out on top here.

2. WM - Lasso gets fodderized unfortunately. Bracelets help negate Rhodey's flight, but she still can't put him down.

3. Could go either way - WW's strength combined with her sword should be able to cut WM, though I don't think it'll be a clean swipe since comparable armors have tanked tank shells. WM on the other hand can very easily kill her through her shield even with his guns, which can tear apart drones able to withstand anti tank rounds.

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@eredin12 said:

@the_gaurdian:

Yeah he used his TK to warp steel around her, which restained her, she got angry and pulverized that steel, but she never overpowered his direct TK, and if she did she would not struggle with lifting a 30-ton tank a few minutes after, as for making things up, right just look at her effortless face while doing it

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no signs of struggle there right?

Erdin, this is two screencaps of her lifting a tank. Is this some sort of gotcha? There's no indication in the script, subtitles or dialouge from the movie that she was struggling to lift or hold it and you won't find anymore screencaps to back your case. We see her hold it overhead for over a minute and literally daydream about Steve before throwing it like a toy. She even throws a vehicle that had a closely similar weight earlier in the movie with no struggle.

First, are you really comparing going thrugh stone and old WW1 mortals with what WM can do lol? Second, that barrier was only in her God mode, something she does not normally have, we were talking about featless lasso and bracelets

How are his weapons breaking through the barrier without being disintegrated? God mode isn't a thing, it's her discovering her powers.

"Sure she was blitzing people, but"

I'm gonna stop you right here because at this stage you're straight denying reality and being dense on purpose. How else would she even move to blitz without her legs anyway? She's demonstrated that she can move her body and limbs at mach speeds and can easily change direction. Even if Rhodey somehow dodged an initial strike he doesn't have any feats showing he could dodge multiple and he hasn't ever tagged anyone as fast or faster than Diana. Tony's his superior and he was a statue to Quicksilver, someone nowhere near as fast as Diana.

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@the_gaurdian: She's struggling in the script.

 Diana snarls, her arms shaking with the weight of the tank over her head.
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#48  Edited By Eredin12  Online

@the_gaurdian:

Erdin, this is two screencaps of her lifting a tank. Is this some sort of gotcha?

Inded, i guess you can call it that, we see her face in the extreme struggle while trying to lift it which debunks what you said

There's no indication in the script, subtitles or dialouge from the movie that she was struggling to lift or hold it and you won't find anymore screencaps to back your case. We see her hold it overhead for over a minute and literally daydream about Steve before throwing it like a toy. She even throws a vehicle that had a closely similar weight earlier in the movie with no struggle.

First, i am pretty sure i saw something that says she did struggle with it, not sure was in the guidebook, script, novel or something, second subtitles are useless for this lol, they have nothing to do with this, and there was no dialogue eaither here, the reason why we know she struggled is that we see her face which shows us just how much she struggles ot lift it, and she did not have that face only for a moment, but for several seconds while lifting it and if you think there is no more screenshots you are wrong as well, she had the face of struggle until she lifted it above her head, and then holding it there is easier than lifting it like this from ground

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She also did not throw it away like toy eiather, we see her use effort in doing so agian

The film is a visual medium, not novel, here we dont need script and dialogue, we need to just see her face to judge it, and how did that vehicle had similar weight?Also show me that scene to prove that she did not struggle as well sicne with tank she clearly did and no denial is changing that

How are his weapons breaking through the barrier without being disintegrated? God mode isn't a thing, it's her discovering her powers.

She did not have taht in JL or BVS, she normally does not have it, second, because they are stornger than anything that barer blocked

I'm gonna stop you right here because at this stage you're straight denying reality and being dense on purpose.

Well its beyond ironic to hear that by a guy who literaly just ignored clear pictures above and siad that in them WW did not struggle

How else would she even move to blitz without her legs anyway? She's demonstrated that she can move her body and limbs at mach speeds and can easily change direction. Even if Rhodey somehow dodged an initial strike he doesn't have any feats showing he could dodge multiple and he hasn't ever tagged anyone as fast or faster than Diana. Tony's his superior and he was a statue to Quicksilver, someone nowhere near as fast as Diana.

First, let me stop you right there, QS is much faster in combat than WW by feats i saw so far lol, second, nobady said she cannot move her leg fast, she can but not at hypersonic speed, which means he can just go in the air before she closes distnace and then she will not be able to tag him while he is in air

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@rajjarsalt said:

@the_gaurdian: She's struggling in the script.

 Diana snarls, her arms shaking with the weight of the tank over her head.

Yeah thanks for that, lets hear what excuse you will make now guardian to ignore this

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#50  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@kryptonianking88: I feel like the tank rounds aren't the most impressive but the fact that his armor can take that kinetic bunker buster shows massive durability. I don't think there's a tank round that packs the power to bust a bunker. Along with enough RDX to bust the bunker below that bunker.