MCU Wanda vs DCEU Superman

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Rules

- In character

- Start 50 feet apart

- Battle takes place in the airport from CW

- Win by KO or Incap

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Supes destroys.

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Superman bullrush.

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Wanda basicallye very time, unless I missed something in BvS that meant an in character Clark would open with bullrushing (and murder) a random woman.

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If Wanda doesn't use her TP in time Superman.

Superman in character would try and talk, he wouldn't speed blitz her.

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Wanda basicallye very time, unless I missed something in BvS that meant an in character Clark would open with bullrushing (and murder) a random woman.

well he did that, in the africa scene

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Superman with ease.

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Wanda stomps.

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LOL PEOPLE ARE DEFENDING THAT HE DIDN'T KILL MY AFRICAN BROTHER

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Clark one shots with by opening the battle with a bullrush.

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Wanda does not have Louis at gun point, nor does she look like a threat.

Wanda can easily TP him before he blitz ( becasue he wont blitz her)

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In character, Clark looses. He's not gonna KO some random girl, unless he knows what she can do.

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The only time he's bullrushed a human from the get-go was when that someone had a gun to Lois Lane's head.

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Wanda wont tp off the bat either. And supes wont blitz. Supes will try to talk. If anything witch will go for tk. In which case superman can dodge and easily take her down.

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Superman stomps.

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@nerdchore: He still wont go for the KO or the Kill

Batman was trying to Kill him and all he did was try and talk his way out of it.

He would most likely ask her to stop, and now that she knows TK wont work she'll try TP.

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#19 JediXMan  Moderator

Wanda basicallye very time, unless I missed something in BvS that meant an in character Clark would open with bullrushing (and murder) a random woman.

He blitzed a man holding Lois hostage.

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@jedixman: The women he loves...

Wanda isn't holding her hostage.

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#21  Edited By buildhare

@payneintheass: @jedixman:

I do remember, it's just the situation in that scene is so dramatically different to this I'm not sure he'd actually do it

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Leaning toward Wanda.

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@love: that is completely different. He was trying to recruit bats to help him so of course he wont fight back at first. If witch attacks he will counter. He can subdue her pretty easily.

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@nerdchore: Why would he go all out and subdue her without knowing why she attacked? Or what she wants?

That's OOC.

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Superman easy

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#26  Edited By GXrevolution

@love said:

@nerdchore: Why would he go all out and subdue her without knowing why she attacked? Or what she wants?

That's OOC.

Who says he has to go all out?It would only take a fraction off his strength to rush in and subdue her.

The same logic can also be applied to Wanda. Why would she attack this seemgly human guy without knowing what he wants?

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@gxrevolution: her morals are far more lose than his.

Superman is not going to subdue her right away.

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@love: i never said right away. I said once she attacks. And this is a battle. And when they are battling superman will win.

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@nerdchore: This is a battle with IC people.

And Superman isn't going to KO a girl he just met even if she attacks him. She's clearly not on his level which means he will underestimate him.

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#32  Edited By GXrevolution

@love said:

@nerdchore: This is a battle with IC people.

And Superman isn't going to KO a girl he just met even if she attacks him.

Then there really is no point in this thread, is there? I mean, if we're just going to decide that the characters in question are not going to fight each other, despite the win condition being set to "KO", then there is no discussion to be had. As far as Wanda is concerned, Clark is just ab ordinary man in weird get up. A handsome one at that. Why would she start randomly attacking this seemingly harmless guy and not say, start flirting with him? She has no reason to attack him. See the problem with this logic?

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@gxrevolution: LOL. It's still a fight.

Clark IC wont go for the Kill period and he wont go for the KO unless he's forced to.

He gets TP'ed before then.

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What´s stopping Wanda from pinning down Clark or immobilize him like she did to Vision ??

I´m not saying she wins, I just want to see opinions.

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#35  Edited By GXrevolution

@love said:

@gxrevolution: LOL. It's still a fight.

Clark IC wont go for the Kill period and he wont go for the KO unless he's forced to.

He gets TP'ed before then.

1.)Based on what? All he has to do is subue her. Again, it won't take much effort on his part. He superspeeds over to her and gives her a head tap and shes out.

2.) So what you are saying is Clark won't randomly attack her because shes a girl but she will randomly attack him(a seemingly normal guy) for no reason?

3.) Wanda doesn't use her TP in combat in-character. Her go to tactic is TK.

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What GX said

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Wanda wins because Superman doesn't think speedblitzing his enemies is very nice.

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Can Wanda's abilities affect him?? Cause if not then Supes wins.

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DCEU Superman effortlessly stomps.

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in character Clark would try to talk to her even though he knows her powers lol,he is too innocent

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Please, Superman will do anything to win if it means his life. He only talked to his opponent when he genuinely didn't want to harm them. Lets skip the 'in character' part where both would clearly rather make an allegiance. They're fighting here.

That said, Superman would destroy Wanda. She only ever used telepathy twice: Once as a hypnotic suggestion to cripple a team, via stealth and getting in close quatars (which failed on Hawkeye, and Banner during a second confrontation). And another time when she used it as mass hynosis to get people to evacuate the city. Not once was she capable of true mind control, and more times than not in a combat scenario she uses telekinesis.

She's not going to be able to contain Clark, like she did with Vision because A) He's a lot stronger than Vision. B) Unlike Vision who was knocked unconscious by being pushed through a building, Clark is durable enough to take the hit and keep ticking. C) Wanda struggled. D) Clark would just vaporize her from a distance lmao.

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#42 rogueshadow  Moderator

Clark should win, he's shown that he's willing to mess you up if he has to, he'll just bullrush her. I would also point out that I got the impression SW was only able to hold Vision down like that because she can somehow control the mind-gem due to her powers being derived from it.

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#43  Edited By Hocko1999_VIRUS

Superman destroys her with ease. She doesn't use TP in combat, her TK isn't powerful enough to stop him, and her durability and reaction abilities are only that of a normal human. Good to see the SW and Vision wank furnace is still flaming away though.

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Clark doesn't win easily in character. Wanda had some seriously powerful TK in Civil War.

Could go either way. In character, Wanda has looser morals, and I'm unsure as to whether she could overpower Supes physicals with her abilities. Unsure.

But Joe Russo said she will be the most powerful character in the MCU (see the Screen Junkies video on YouTube) and so I truly think it's a who hits the first situation.

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Clark under kryptonian atmosphere and gravity beam strong enough to go through entire planet overpowered that beam literally.

It took Wanda around 10-15 seconds to pin down someone much weaker and after that she sent him few floors down. Not impressive in this fight.

Wanda's attacks are slow and their force is too little for Kryptonians to care.

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@sl-wopr: almost forgot the world engine feat Clark wins.

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This thread reminds me of the Superman vs Professor X, where people were arguing Superman would blitz an old man in a wheel chair, lol. Come on, if this is in character, Superman loses. If morals off he stomps.

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Clark doesn't have any knowlege and would never blitz her. Wanda's was able to easily remove Ultron's core while she destroyed Vibranium. I also read a comic that is canon to MCU. She was able to destroy a giant robot easily. She wins.

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Glourman succeeds.

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#50  Edited By GXrevolution

@krleavenger said:

Clark doesn't have any knowlege and would never blitz her. Wanda's was able to easily remove Ultron's core while she destroyed Vibranium. I also read a comic that is canon to MCU. She was able to destroy a giant robot easily. She wins.

Why? Why are we assuming that he won't use his abilites? The win condition is KO. He can easily superspeed up to her and knock her out in a non lethal manner. "In-character" only means he won't use lethal force. The only ability "IC" would restrict is HV and that is because it's lethal by nature. There is no reason why Superman can' utilise his speed.