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#1 Posted by ironstorm (41 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know if this has been done already because it seems so obvious but I could not find it so if it already exists, I am sorry.

Battle takes place over New York.

Falcon may use red wing

Vulture has standard gear.

No prep, morals on.

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#2 Posted by God_Vulcan (5307 posts) - - Show Bio

Vulture

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#3 Posted by ITheManWithoutFearI (4702 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Falcon low difficulty.

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#4 Edited by camilopezo (595 posts) - - Show Bio

Vulture easily

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#5 Posted by bowlt_swagg_320 (2044 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably has been done but no matter its an interesting match. I'd go with Sam on this one with difficulty

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#6 Posted by MisterWhisper (5336 posts) - - Show Bio

Falcon.

Much more agile, higher tech, wider range of offensive choices, better training, and more experience.

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#7 Posted by WastelandMan (7851 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter took on WS and Falcon at the same time without much trouble but gets rekt by Vulture in every encounter. Not sure how this is debatable.

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#8 Posted by Vj1234 (158 posts) - - Show Bio

falcon

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#9 Posted by God_Vulcan (5307 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter took on WS and Falcon at the same time without much trouble but gets rekt by Vulture in every encounter. Not sure how this is debatable.

I'm saying

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#10 Posted by ironstorm (41 posts) - - Show Bio

I think vulture has more strength and firepower, however, falcon has more agility and experience. I think his wings are more durable too although vulture's have more attack options.

May have been done but interesting nonetheless.

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#11 Posted by Mutant1230 (2343 posts) - - Show Bio

Vulture still wins.

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#12 Posted by Elijah_C_Washington (3805 posts) - - Show Bio

Vulture wrecks.

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#14 Edited by nickzambuto (29271 posts) - - Show Bio

Sam might have more training, but that doesn't automatically make him more skilled. Toomes was a pragmatic and highly cunning man. Just look at the way both of them faired against Spider-Man. Sam wasn't able to adapt to such a superpowered opponent, he couldn't think fast enough to keep up, and although he eventually got the BFR thanks to Bucky's presence and some luck, that doesn't compare at all with Toomes just straight up outclassing Peter and nearly murdering him at every turn. I also think Toomes has the better technology, his suit is armored and gives him superhuman strength, while Falcon is more maneuverable but doesn't actually possess any way to harm Vulture.

Ultimately, the wiser, more adaptable and collected fighter will always win. Having a power advantage on top of that just seals the deal.

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#15 Posted by ThunderPrince (1396 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter took on WS and Falcon at the same time without much trouble but gets rekt by Vulture in every encounter. Not sure how this is debatable.

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#16 Posted by ironstorm (41 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: I guess so.

We never found out if Toomes was bulletproof did we?

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#17 Edited by WastelandMan (7851 posts) - - Show Bio

@ironstorm said:

@nickzambuto: I guess so.

We never found out if Toomes was bulletproof did we?

His wings were shown to be bullet proof like Sam's when the FBI shot at him during the ferry scene:

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#18 Posted by ironstorm (41 posts) - - Show Bio

@wastelandman: Ok.

All in all, I think Toomes has it and I feel slightly embarrassed for making this post.

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#19 Posted by AngelJax (3050 posts) - - Show Bio

Falcon

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#20 Posted by kripanath (151 posts) - - Show Bio

Vulture is not as impressive as people claim.

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#21 Edited by JediXMan (39825 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Vulture.

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#22 Posted by kripanath (151 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by Khael (13984 posts) - - Show Bio

Vulture wins.

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#27 Posted by Shazam99 (282 posts) - - Show Bio

Clearly Vulture.

Just compare their respective encounters with Spidey.

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#29 Posted by LORDSHEPHERD123 (339 posts) - - Show Bio

Vulture

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#30 Posted by DirtyTree333 (1240 posts) - - Show Bio

Falcon gets stomped.

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#31 Posted by SupremeGeneration (5974 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone comparing Falcon and Vulture's performance against Spidey should look at it again. Falcon was waaaaay more restricted, and would easily do better while in a more maneuverable location.

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#32 Posted by imagein (225 posts) - - Show Bio

Falcon dodged multiple Hellcarrier turrets in TWS. He can use Redwing to distract Vulture then shred him with dual submachine gun fire or blow him away with missiles.

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#33 Edited by Amendment50 (11419 posts) - - Show Bio

Certainly makes sense to me to compare their fights with Spider-Man.

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#34 Edited by webinyoureye11 (2114 posts) - - Show Bio

Falcon

Fast enough to block bullets and beat another guy on the draw:

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With Red-Wing acting as a distraction, his tracking rockets will at the very least ground Vulture, leaving Sam with a significant advantage:

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Add Sam's aerial maneuverability, which is definitely better than Toomes', and I don't see how Sam loses this

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#35 Edited by nickzambuto (29271 posts) - - Show Bio

With Red-Wing acting as a distraction, his tracking rockets will at the very least ground Vulture, leaving Sam with a significant advantage:

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Add Sam's aerial maneuverability, which is definitely better than Toomes', and I don't see how Sam loses this

Oh my gosh, this man is a damn monster. He just napalmed multiple soldiers to death without batting an eye.

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#36 Posted by webinyoureye11 (2114 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: He tried to do the same to Spider-Man, Sam was out of control

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#37 Posted by nickzambuto (29271 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: He tried to do the same to Spider-Man, Sam was out of control

Tony was right. They need to be controlled.

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#38 Posted by webinyoureye11 (2114 posts) - - Show Bio

@webinyoureye11 said:

@nickzambuto: He tried to do the same to Spider-Man, Sam was out of control

Tony was right. They need to be controlled.

Tony - "We need to be put in check! Whatever form that takes, I'm game."

Also Tony:

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