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Poll MCU vision vs DCEU wonder woman (178 votes)

Vision 65%
WW 35%

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Vision, cause his phasing is OP

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Vision would eventually due to his phasing. And Wonder Woman probably can't cut through his virbranium.

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@mister_surreal: Doomsday has better feats than vibranium, but I would agree the phasing wins it for Vision

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#4  Edited By Mister_Surreal

@xzone: How does Doomsday have better feats? Vibranium was able to tank a full power attack from Thor's hammer and only ever has been seen to be destroyed by a prolonged attack from Thor, Ironman and Vision along weapons that likely broke down matter at the molecular level. Doomsday's best durability feats are sustaining some attacks from Supermn and Wonder Woman who are the only people we have seen him fight. And he flat out lost a hand when fighting them.

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@mister_surreal: he tanked and absorbed a point blank nuke, that's far more impressive heat and ballistic durability than three lasers

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@xzone: What piercing feats are you talking about? Doomsday's or Wonder Woman's?

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Wonder Woman.

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#9  Edited By Mister_Surreal

@dioxinyo said:

@mister_surreal: he tanked and absorbed a point blank nuke, that's far more impressive heat and ballistic durability than three lasers

He didn't tank a nuke, he died and came back stronger afterwards.

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And those "three lasers" were full blasts from Ironman's repulsers, Thor's lightning and an infinity stone.

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#10  Edited By xzone

@mister_surreal: Doomsday’s piercing feats>vision’s

And Diana’s sword cut him

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@xzone: Do you mean that Doomsday is able to pierce things better than Vision or that he can take getting pierced better?

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Vision due to phasing.

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This is tuff

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Wonder Woman, out of all the fights Vision has been involved in, he has never used his phasing offensively against a human and has very well been tagged by people much slower than Diana. Not only does he lack the strength to hurt Diana but he also lacks speed and durability feats to suggest he can keep up with her or go toe to toe with her. People need to stop overlooking Visions phasing abilities, he has been tagged by much less.

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#16  Edited By samhmd1

Vibranium absorbs the kinetic energy being applied to it, meaning that if she tried to take a swing at him the vibranium would absorb the kinetic energy behind the swing/pierce and the sword wouldn't do any damage due to there no longer being any force behind the attack. Glaive's weapon worked because it cuts on the atomic level and nothing can block it, as opposed to Diana's sword which we've seen has limits (couldn't chop right through Steppenwolf, for example).

Same with her trying to punch him.

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Not sure

Vision was trash tier in Infinity war

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@rampagethefirst: Watch his fight with Clint. He uses phasing in that fight regularly.

And once he would realize that Wonder Woman is a very powerful being which he should very quickly since he's smart he'd phase her body parts out

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@xzone: No he doesn't. If he could auto phase, he would've done so against a lot of characters but he instead ended up getting tagged by most of them, heck, he even got tagged by Ultron's bots and Diana bullrushes/blitzes WAY faster than them.

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@georgewbush: Well Vision is a machine after all.

If you stab through a machine it isn't going to perform normally.

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#21  Edited By RampageTheFirst

@richubs: That is a deleted scene, in other words, it's non-canon.

Feats to suggest he can perceive Diana and "very quickly" phase her body parts out? Which btw is, something he has never done in character lol.

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Vision phases.

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Depends if Diana managed to hit quickly she wins if not vision phases

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@rampagethefirst: What do you mean deleted scene? It was in the movie. The scene where Clint is there to take Wanda.

And just because he had never done or before doesn't mean he'll never do it. In desperate times he'll have to do it.

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@richubs: It's a deleted scene lol, it wasn't in the movie..which is why it's non canon buddy.

Well, if he has never shown it means that he doesn't do it in character...It's pretty simple and how do you know if he will do it in desperate times? I'm sure he has been in desperate times A LOT, and he has still never used it offensively, not even against Aliens let alone humans..

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#26  Edited By Richubs

@rampagethefirst: I saw the scene in the theatre. Nice of them to show a deleted scene in theatres.

And it's an important part since it explains how Wanda got out and Clint came in.

What the hell are you smoking?

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Diana.

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@rampagethefirst: And which aliens he didn't use it against?

Vision explicitly stated his phasing isn't working in infinity war.

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@richubs: Okay that was my bad, I got it confused with another scene (Thor vs Vision), but my point still stands, he has never used it offensively against humans, the only time he used it offensively was against Ultron's bots, to rip their hearts out so no, he isn't ripping anyone's body parts out, especially not someone that looks like a human.

Vision has been bullrushed by Ultrons bots, and he doesn't have the durability feats to suggest he can tank hits from Diana for long nor does he have the speed/combat feats to suggest he can perceive or keep up with her and let's say, even if he did somehow go rogue and decide to do something incredibly OOC for him (ripping body parts), he'd have no way of tagging Diana.

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Vision couldnt even beat Corvus Glaive... lol

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#31  Edited By MarvelandDCfan24

WW cuts him her Sword has better feats than the Glaive and Vision isnt soild Vibranium hes synthetic so soild Vibrainium isnt comparable

Shes stronger, faster, more skilled

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Wonder Woman wins.

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Vision has been bullrushed by Ultrons bots

why do you keep saying this, its been a while since i watched AOU but last time i checked Vision was casually destroying Ultron bots via phasing and lazers and barely ever got tagged by anyone other than Ultron himself, and that was while he was "knocked out" by taking Ultron out of the internet.

In fact the only times Vision has been hurt was via mind stone manipulation from Scarlet Witch, and in Infinity War after Corvus Glave stabbed him (with a weapon that specifically stopped his phasing) and effectively made him useless from then on.

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@DJKenKen: I keep saying it because Diana is much faster than Ultron's bots and the only time he used phasing offensively was against Ultron's bots, he has been bullrushed by characters MUCH slower than Diana.

Nothing to suggest he can't get pierced by Diana's sword or tank Diana's punches.

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@rampagethefirst: When he is left with no choice and once he realizes that this woman is going for the kill he will definitely use phasing offensively.

He very definitely won't go down in a couple of strikes since he's very durable and he also uses phasing effectively. Casually using it on arrows at point blank multiple times means he can casually do it to wonder woman too.

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Diana is too fast, but the Vision lowballing post-IW is rather embarrassing.

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@tonymartial: Vision was very severely handicapped in Infinity War from the get go. He couldn't phase at all as we could see.

If you stab a machine with thousands of wires then the machine obviously won't work well.

Vision would otherwise obilirate Glaive if he wasn't caught by surprise.

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@richubs: He has literally never done that...and that's not how battles work mate, and it's not like he can withstand that many punches, Diana will literally one-shot him with her sword and that's definitely something in character for her to do. So unless Vision has piercing durability better than DD's, I think it's pretty clear who's going to win.

Dude, in order to use his phasing effectively and defend against Diana's attacks using phasing, he has to perceive her..He literally has no feats to suggest he can perceive her. Are you seriously suggesting that Arrows travel faster than bullets? Really?..Vision has been tagged by characters MUCH slower than Diana and has even been bullrushed by Ultron's bots who are much slower than Diana, and not to mention, he has even been tagged by Arrows in the airport fight scene LOL.

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Vision couldnt even beat Corvus Glaive... lol

And Diana couldnt do shit to steppenwolf..lol

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#40  Edited By Richubs

@rampagethefirst: I never said he hasn't been tagged by people but then even Diana has been tagged by people much slower.

And I think you're underestimating Vision's speed.

Remember when Sokovia was falling and Wanda was stuck in it? Vision came to save her. And he was travelling in vertically at the same speed as Sokovia was falling and horizontally where he was going through all the rubble with ease. Its safe to say he can move fast and perceive things fast as well. Plus he can tank Wonder Woman's punches without much trouble seeing as to how he could take Final Form Ultron's hits without a dent while the same Ultron was hurting Thor.

And he is strong enough to hurt her too. When he hit Ultron in Age of Ultron he sent him flying through a wall a few hundred meters which is very impressive.

People like to shit on Vision because of Infinity War when ceksrky Vision was severely handicapped in the movie.

I'm not even saying who wins but this definitely isn't as one sided as many are saying it is. Vision would have torn Proxima and Glaive in half easily if he wasn't ambushed before that.

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Diana, all those people using Vibranium feats for Vision are just wanking him. Vision is not made of pure Vibranium, not like it would matter though. As we saw in IW he has poor damage soak, one stab is more than enough to incapacitate his phasing abilities, the rest is a stomp in WW's favor.

Diana is also a casual bullet timer something Vision hasn't faced for this fight even be fair, his best feat is arrow timing and not enough feats for scaling.

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@macleen said:

Diana, all those people using Vibranium feats for Vision are just wanking him. Vision is not made of pure Vibranium, not like it would matter though. As we saw in IW he has poor damage soak, one stab is more than enough to incapacitate his phasing abilities, the rest is a stomp in WW's favor.

Diana is also a casual bullet timer something Vision hasn't faced for this fight even be fair, his best feat is arrow timing and not enough feats for scaling.

And people wank Diana with her speed feats. She got tagged by just some dude so karma for those little Wonder Woman fanboys who say Vision got stabbed/tagged by Corvious

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Vision would eventually due to his phasing. And Wonder Woman probably can't cut through his virbranium.

Im pretty sure her sword would probably cause trouble for vision in terms of phasing, plus he got blitzed by corvus, cant see how he hurts wonder woman significantly

Vision was heavily nerfed in infinity war but that was mainly because of how skilled corvus was

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#44  Edited By RampageTheFirst

@richubs:

I never said he hasn't been tagged by people but then even Diana has been tagged by people much slower.

Okay name one character that is much slower than Vision that has tagged Diana and I swear I will drop the whole speed case right here.

And I think you're underestimating Vision's speed.

No I am not.

Remember when Sokovia was falling and Wanda was stuck in it? Vision came to save her.

That's travel speed lol.

And he was travelling in vertically at the same speed as Sokovia was falling and horizontally where he was going through all the rubble with ease.

Travel speed. Not enough to suggest he can tag or perceive casual bullet timers.

Its safe to say he can move fast and perceive things fast as well.

Prove it, also, moving fast has nothing to do with perceiving things fast.

Plus he can tank Wonder Woman's punches without much trouble seeing as to how he could take Final Form Ultron's hits without a dent while the same Ultron was hurting Thor.

Scans of Final Form Ultron hurting Thor and Final Form Ultron clearly blasted him across and they didn't even fight that long to actually count it as a notable feat lol and Diana is stronger...

And he is strong enough to hurt her too. When he hit Ultron in Age of Ultron he sent him flying through a wall a few hundred meters which is very impressive.

You're making it seem like Diana can't just avoid his hits...It's totally not like she hasn't avoided a horde of parademons while completely blitzing them am I right? It's totally like Ultron and Diana are in the same ballpark right? It's totally like Diana isn't MASSIVELY faster than him and has the means of one-shotting him right?

People like to shit on Vision because of Infinity War when ceksrky Vision was severely handicapped in the movie.

No, people just like to overvalue his feats and add in their fan speculation along the way like saying he would phase the heart out of a human, come on, do you seriously expect him to do that? I can tell you've been in this site long enough to know what is OOC and In-character.

I'm not even saying who wins but this definitely isn't as one sided as many are saying it is. Vision would have torn Proxima and Glaive in half easily if he wasn't ambushed before that.

He didn't and nothing suggests he would've. That is ENTIRELY fan speculation.

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@rampagethefirst:

https://youtu.be/O9pBQrpAb_E

Thor getting his ass handed to him.

And it's not just travel speed. He's literally going through a city that fast that requires good perception.

Diana has been tagged by Steppenwolf who even though isn't slow but he doesn't really have any great speed feats either.

Yes, Diana has means to cut Vision in half.

Yes, I know that's not really a normal thing for Vision to do but he would do it if he had to. Anyone would. I'd say it's more likely for Vision to phase someone out than to let them kill him.

And do you really think a guy who was fighting Captain America and took some time to bring him down and another alien that couldn't stomp Okoye and Widow are going to beat Vision without ambushing him when he is clearly leagues above people they have fought?

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@richubs:

Thor getting his ass handed to him.

Um, Thor was caught off guard by Ultron and BFR'd and before he could catch a break, Ultron started throwing shit at him, how is that him getting his ass handed to him? That is totally different from what happened in Ultrons fight with Vision, they were both prepared for the fight and Ultron still whooped him.

And it's not just travel speed. He's literally going through a city that fast that requires good perception.

That is literally travel speed LOL!

Diana has been tagged by Steppenwolf who even though isn't slow but he doesn't really have any great speed feats either.

Dude, you said Diana has been tagged by characters much slower than Vision and I asked you to name one character that is much slower than Vision and you seriously did the opposite..lmao.

Yes, Diana has means to cut Vision in half.

Cool. So you agree that Diana stomps and one-shots him with superior speed, strength and durability right? Or do you still have something to say?

Yes, I know that's not really a normal thing for Vision to do but he would do it if he had to. Anyone would. I'd say it's more likely for Vision to phase someone out than to let them kill him.

No he wouldn't, he has never done so in character, I don't think you get how battles work, it has to be in character unless stated otherwise by OP! He is going to utilise his versatility like he always has..he isn't going to resort to that, that is fan speculation and OOC!

And do you really think a guy who was fighting Captain America and took some time to bring him down and another alien that couldn't stomp Okoye and Widow are going to beat Vision without ambushing him when he is clearly leagues above people they have fought?

He would've beaten them by superior feats but he didn't and that is what I was pointing out..I like the double standards here as well, you're completely ignoring the massive speed, strength and durability gap between Vision and Diana but you're doing your best to cover it up between Vision and Corvus lol.

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Vision is a jobber but Diana can’t do anything to him unless Corvus gave her his blade

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#48  Edited By Nucleon

@mister_surreal: Well, althought there is vibranium in its composition, the Vision isn't made out of it. He's more like an alloy.

But yeah, he would beat WW fairly easily. The only one in the JLA that would have a chance against the Vision is Cyborg, and maybe Batman if he doesn't chose the frontal approach.

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#49  Edited By sportjames23  Online

Just gonna point out some facts, because I see lowballing on both sides:

1. Vision wasn’t 100% in Infinity War due to being sneak attacked by Corvus Glaive. That pretty much fucked him up for the rest of the movie.

2. Re: Wonder Woman being hit by that guy in the bank. She wasn’t even paying attention to him, so why would she worry about avoiding his attack? And his attack did nothing, btw.

3. Doomsday did NOT die and come back from the nuke. He tanked the blast and got stronger from it, but he did not die first.

4. If Glaive’s weapon could pierce Vision, Diana’s sword surely can.

5. Vision has never spammed his phasing powers in an MCU movie, so I don’t see why he would now.

That’s all for now. Carry on.

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@dioxinyo said:

@mister_surreal: he tanked and absorbed a point blank nuke, that's far more impressive heat and ballistic durability than three lasers

Nuke in space, with no atoms to work on. That blast was just radiation and it almost killed Supes. Still I don't know why people compare it to a peircing attack: High Explosive attacks, such as a nuke, is the opposite of an armor-piercing attack. What, was the missile vector that carried it pointy or something?