Vision
With time and more experience though, I can see Cyborg winning
This is a close one.
Kinda like the Ironman vs Cyborg, if Cyborg hacks, which his feats in JL were very impressive, he wins easily. In a fight Vision takes him, but I think New God Motherbox tech>Ultron.
Cyborg hack stomps.
Vision rips Cyborg apart.
This is a close one.
Kinda like the Ironman vs Cyborg, if Cyborg hacks, which his feats in JL were very impressive, he wins easily. In a fight Vision takes him, but I think New God Motherbox tech>Ultron.
Cyborg hack stomps.
This is a close one.
Kinda like the Ironman vs Cyborg, if Cyborg hacks, which his feats in JL were very impressive, he wins easily. In a fight Vision takes him, but I think New God Motherbox tech>Ultron.
Cyborg hack stomps.
Time to school the people saying Cyborg wins via hacking:
His hacking feats were very low level at best. He hacked the batcave's security cameras? Well what feats does the batcave's security system have? None, but nice try.
He turned off all the lights on that city block when talking to Wonder Woman? Cool, but that's not going to help him in a fight against Vision.
He hacked the nightcrawler? Awesome, but he obviously needed access to its internals using cables, which will be useless against Vision.
So this all proves that:
1) Cyborg has extremely low level "hands off" hacking which won't help in a fight against anybody.
2) To actually take control of something, he needs physical access. This won't happen against Vision due to his phasing ability.
So when you take away Cyborg's only trump card, you're basically left with a character that's barely higher than fodder compared to someone like Vision.
Nice try though.
@thegerudoking: Lol you do realize Cyborg was hacking the mother boxes at the end right, "tech unimaginable on Earth", yet you think Ultron is superior?
Nice try though.
@manonthemountain: what feats do they have of being un-hackable? Also 2 things to consider:
1) Cyborg was made from the motherbox so that's what allowed him to do that. He couldn't even remote hack the nightcrawler. He had to physically be in the vehicle and manually attach cables to gain control of it. Unless you're suggesting that the nightcrawler is also "tech unimaginable on Earth"??
2) Cyborg had to be up close and couldn't do it remotely. Also it took him a considerable amount of time to do it. Something Vision wouldn't afford him the luxury of having. Plus with phasing, he has no way to actually attach any cables to hack manually. Also, he's powered by an infinity stone. Something that wasn't made on Earth.?
Vision wins this match decisively. Nice try though.
@manonthemountain: Lol, you base your arguments of the mother boxes being superior to Ultron in being "tech unimaginable on earth". What a joke, they literally have 0 hacking resistance feats or hacking feats for that matter, not counting cyborg, whilst Ultron already hacked into systems by far more complex and with protection against hacking than Cyborg has ever encountered. And he did this without having to plug in with tentacles. And Vision hacked him, he shut him down off the internet. Even if Vision didn't have phasing he would stomp him physically or with hacking.
@darkpsychiclord_prime: @thegerudoking: Lol, you're actually comparing New God Motherbox tech to something made by Tony Stark? He also hacked Kyrptonian tech.
Even without hack stomping, Vision has no way to hurt Cyborg as he tanked the Motherbox explosion and has regen, not sure what you're missing here.
Cyborg stomps.
@manonthemountain: Tony Stark didn't make anything. Both Ultron and Vision were products of the mind stone. You know, "tech unimaginable on Earth"?.
And again, Kryptonian tech isn't that impressive. Even Lex was able to do whatever he wanted in the Genesis Chamber. So far, Kryptonian tech is looking rather flimsy and so is Cyborg's hacking feats. Especially seeing how he needs to manually attach cables to even gain access.
Vision wins decisively and he doesn't even need to rely on anything petty such as hacking?.
@thegerudoking: LOL.
He doesn't need to manually attach anything, how else did he shut off all the lights when him and Diana were talking or take control of the batcomputer? He is plugged into the internet all the time, that was shown when he made a holographic projection.
Again, how does Vision handle his regen when he regened his whole body after the accident, and did so immediately against Steppenwolf?
Cyborg still stomps, keep trying though lol.
@manonthemountain: no one is denying he can hack. What I'm bringing into question is his method of hacking. If it's something very low tech like lights or a camera system then he can do it remotely. If it's more substantial like the nightcrawler and the motherboxes he has to do it manually with actual cables that come from his body or be up close to it and it takes him several minutes to interface with it. He won't have that time to attach cables on Vision, especially since he has phasing.
And as far as his regen goes, it's not very impressive. Again he had to do it manually. He has to physically get his ripped off leg and attach it. He didn't just grow a new one so his regen is not very helpful. Especially if that body part gets completely destroyed.
Vision wins decisively. Nice try though.
@thegerudoking: LOL.
He doesn't need to manually attach anything, how else did he shut off all the lights when him and Diana were talking or take control of the batcomputer? He is plugged into the internet all the time, that was shown when he made a holographic projection.
Again, how does Vision handle his regen when he regened his whole body after the accident, and did so immediately against Steppenwolf?
Cyborg still stomps, keep trying though lol.
he never regenned, his father used the mother box regenerative abilities to heal his son. The only time he regeneed was when Steph ripped his leg off and Batman helped put it back on.
@trust_this_786: exactly. People act like his regen is anything impressive. Vision could easily phase any of his body parts off and then it's game over for Cyborg. He's not going to just let him sit there and put this leg back on ?.
@trust_this_786: Exactly, Cyborg is made from the Motherbox which means he has those same regenerative abilities.
@thegerudoking: Lol yeah you're just incorrect and using hypotheticals again. He does have regen.
Cyborg still stomps, hack or no hack.
@trust_this_786: Exactly, Cyborg is made from the Motherbox which means he has those same regenerative abilities.
both times the motherbox was used to heal someone (superman and cyborg) assistance was needed. Cyborg has no assistance. Also none of the times the motherbox were used, the major organs, brain, and heart, were intact.
@trust_this_786: HE IS MADE OF MOTHERBOX TECH. Why can't you understand this?
He has the same regenerative abilities as the Motherbox because during his reconstruction he was powered with the Motherbox.
@trust_this_786: HE IS MADE OF MOTHERBOX TECH. Why can't you understand this?
He has the same regenerative abilities as the Motherbox because during his reconstruction he was powered with the Motherbox.
I understand it quite clear if his regen was that good he wouldn't Batman to go fetch his leg
@manonthemountain: there's nothing hypothetical about what I said. He does have regen but as the movie showed he has to physically put his leg back on. He didn't grow a new leg. So what happens when Vision phases a leg or arm off? Is Cyborg going to ask for a few minutes to reattach it?
Vision wins decisively. Nice try though.
@manonthemountain: Vision just does this to cyborg
@trust_this_786: When did Batman get his leg back? I have no recollection of that, from what I remember Superman arrived shortly after Steppenwolf ripped it off and wrecked him, from there it just shows Cyborg eventually getting it back and hacking the Apokilipian unity. That still doesn't change the fact he literally regened his whole body after the accident with his motherbox tech body.
@thegerudoking: Lol yeah you're just incorrect.
Cyborg stomps, keep trying though.
@trust_this_786: When did Batman get his leg back? I have no recollection of that, from what I remember Superman arrived shortly after Steppenwolf ripped it off and wrecked him, from there it just shows Cyborg eventually getting it back and hacking the Apokilipian unity. That still doesn't change the fact he literally regened his whole body after the accident with his motherbox tech body.
bro Steph ripped his leg off, Supes comes in, trolls Steph, meanwhile Batman is helping Cyborg reattach his broken leg
@manonthemountain: so you've ran out feats and ways to counter my arguments and have therefore resorted to just saying I'm incorrect??
That's just bad form. You really should look into getting better at debating. Instead of trying to be snarky and downplay what others say or low-ball obvious feats, you should just accept things as they are and realize that your favorite character, or a character from your favorite comic book company, isn't going to win everytime.
Vision wins this fight decisively.
@trust_this_786: That still doesn't change the fact he used self repair, is made of motherbox tech and healed his whole body after the accident. He clearly has some form of significant regen. He tanked the unity with Superman and tanked Steppenwolfs electroaxe to the shoulder with relatively minimal damage considering how destructive it is. He also tanked Supermans heat vision with is arm and we know how powerful that is.
As far as offensively, he has blaster cannons which is able to stun the very durable Superman and Steppenwolf, he clearly has immense strength as shown in a scene I have no idea why they cut where he flies in front of a humvee and stops it casually. He also pulled apart the unity with Superman. I've already mentioned hacking.
Victor takes this, I still think it's close but he's more impressive.
@trust_this_786: That still doesn't change the fact he used self repair, is made of motherbox tech and healed his whole body after the accident. He clearly has some form of significant regen. He tanked the unity with Superman and tanked Steppenwolfs electroaxe to the shoulder with relatively minimal damage considering how destructive it is. He also tanked Supermans heat vision with is arm and we know how powerful that is.
As far as offensively, he has blaster cannons which is able to stun the very durable Superman and Steppenwolf, he clearly has immense strength as shown in a scene I have no idea why they cut where he flies in front of a humvee and stops it casually. He also pulled apart the unity with Superman. I've already mentioned hacking.
Victor takes this, I still think it's close but he's more impressive.
I wouldn't call it self repair if he needs help putting his leg back together, he never tanked it him and Superman were both on the floor and even Superman commented how much it hurt.
Deleted scenes dont count, and they prolly cut it cause of time, they cut a lot of scenes and made the movie nigh-unwatchable
Vision can phase through blaster fire, its not hard. Cyborg is not hacking vision who hacked Ultron who hacked Shield, Stark, JARVIS, and a nation. He'll need to get his tentacles in vision which is not happening.
Vision's blaster bolts are powerful enough to oneshot War Machine who had tanked a truck explosion and hits from Giant Ant Man in the battle.
Cyborg has not shown durability that impressive
@trust_this_786: It is self repair.
Lol okay.
Cyborg could easily hack Vision, he's constantly plugged into the internet, hacked into LexCorp who has beyond military grade encryption, the scout ship and the Motherboxes accurately enough to see a nanosecond difference in time delay. His technopathy feats are more impressive.
Lol he didn't one shot WM, he shot his little heart thing and it depowered him. Caps shield can do that, not so impressive. Giant Man is a joke?
Yes he has as I already mentioned.
@thegerudoking: Lol yeah because you're almost not worth the time, this is two threads now you're just simply incorrect on points of fact or can't accept the obvious.
Cyborg has self repair, that's obvious and why you would try to deny that puzzles me.
Cyborg still hack stomps.
@trust_this_786: It is self repair.
Lol okay.
Cyborg could easily hack Vision, he's constantly plugged into the internet, hacked into LexCorp who has beyond military grade encryption, the scout ship and the Motherboxes accurately enough to see a nanosecond difference in time delay. His technopathy feats are more impressive.
Lol he didn't one shot WM, he shot his little heart thing and it depowered him. Caps shield can do that, not so impressive. Giant Man is a joke?
Yes he has as I already mentioned.
Self-repair is repairing oneself without the assistance of another entity.
Plugging into the internet isn't impressive at all, JARVIS/Vision has done that several times, when did he hack into Lexcorp and if he did why didn't he delete the files Lex had on him. He was using finding the motherboxes with the help of satellites and he still would not have found them if he didn't share the same energy signiture. Where did he use nanosecond reaction feats
Vision destroyed the arc reactor and part of his armor with a thin beam of energy.
Iron Man's armor was nerfed in Civil War that should have been obvious lol. Also Iron Man's armor suffered punishment from the airport battle, Bucky trying to pry it out, and than finally Cap shoved his shield into it.
Deleted scenes are not canon.
Giant Man is a joke. Same guy who can casually rip apart airplanes and lift trucks with one hand is a joke ok lol
His armor was in self defence mode or whatever that clearly wasn't part of his shell armor.
Also Cyborg has an unexposed part of his face that Vision can take advantage of
Vision still stomps.
The wanking of nigh-featless DCEU characters need to stop.
Or just avoid DCEU threads?
@trust_this_786: He has self repair, he did it after his accident and he did it against Steppenwolf twice with his shoulder and leg.
He hacked into LexCorp encryption when they accessed the scout ship which Lex had control over. He didn't need to delete his files because Lex didn't have them anymore Bruce does when he stole them. He still had to hack New God encryption and has other hacking feats he did easily. He tells Superman they're only going to have a very limited opening when they have to take apart the unity, I believe he says it's a nanosecond "You'll see your opening."
Okay.
Lol Diana casually lifts tanks? He has a feat of getting tied up and falling comedically so I guess that counts?
Yes it was, that's why he was immediately depowerd.
He can cover that part of his face as seen in the Superman scene when he gets resurrected.
@manonthemountain: I didn't deny it. In fact in an earlier post I even agreed that he has regen. But his regen is flawed. In JL, after Steppenwolf ripped his leg off, he was shown later shortly after having to reattach the missing leg. He didn't grow a new leg. He physically had to put the busted leg back in place for it to reattach.
This is great if he had the time, but in a 1v1 fight he won't have the luxury of reattaching busted/dismembered limbs. Especially against an opponent like Vision who can do a lot of damage relatively quickly using his phasing ability.
So, in this fight, if he gets a limb broken off he has to be without that limb for the remainder of the fight. And that's a huge disadvantage.
And as far as the hacking goes, if you can prove he can hack something as complex as Vision remotely then please do. But his feats prove that he can't. He couldn't do it to the nightcrawler and he had to be up close to interface with the motherboxes. Vision won't just allow him to connect cables to him in an attempt to hack him.
Plus, if you say Cyborg hacks because he's connected to the internet, then well Vision already has a feat of blocking something from the internet completely.
I'm not ignoring facts or feats, just using them in the context in which they were presented. You should try it too.
Again, Vision wins decisively.
Why? Just because I think the wanking is ridiculous doesn't mean I don't want to express my opinion on a topic or criticize others.
doesn't mean I don't want to criticize others.
Then this was a counterproductive request.
The wanking of nigh-featless DCEU characters need to stop.
@trust_this_786: He has self repair, he did it after his accident and he did it against Steppenwolf twice with his shoulder and leg.
He hacked into LexCorp encryption when they accessed the scout ship which Lex had control over. He didn't need to delete his files because Lex didn't have them anymore Bruce does when he stole them. He still had to hack New God encryption and has other hacking feats he did easily. He tells Superman they're only going to have a very limited opening when they have to take apart the unity, I believe he says it's a nanosecond "You'll see your opening."
Okay.
Lol Diana casually lifts tanks? He has a feat of getting tied up and falling comedically so I guess that counts?
Yes it was, that's why he was immediately depowerd.
He can cover that part of his face as seen in the Superman scene when he gets resurrected.
He did it when he hit his shoulder not on his leg. Meaning he has minor regeneration. nothing game changing.
He was close range when he hacked the ship and he didn't do that mid combat. He never says nanosecond, I'm sure other ppl can vouch for me on that.
Why are you bringing up Diana lol, Cyborg never showed strength anywhere near as good as her's. Also pretty sure Antman in his giant man form is stronger than Diana.
He only did that in a trailer. Watched it last week don't remember covering that part of his face up
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Again vision can oneshot via this
or he can shoot a beam of laser through his human part
You honestly don't think I believe I have mind control powers and expected everyone to cease on my account? It's me expressing my opinion on how ridiculous the wanking has gotten and what I think should happen. I'm not sure why this concept needed an in-depth explanation for you lol. I thought it'd be pretty obvious to just about anyone.
@wastelandman: You just seemed miserable and annoyed with what you were reading, which I doubt is the first time you said "the DCEU wank needs to stop". I was just making a suggestion, no need for you to get uppity. Lol.
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