With no gems lmaooo he gets destroyed. Whatever off screen magic he did to Thor won't save him here. Nanotech Ironman was getting plenty of licks in, his only downfall was lack of piercing and indestructibility. Ultron is vibranium, heated arm blade, and telekinesis. He can't win.
@kgb725: Got bfred by Hulk, not beaten. There isn't a damn thing Hulk could do ti actually beat Ultron outside of repeatedly tossing him around until they both got bored.
@kgb725: No? And if so it was because beforehand he had just taken a massive energy assault from Vison, Ironman, and Thor that melted his body. Something Thanos can't replicate to weaken him.
Beating up Hulk is a feat. He's shown striking power that can damage the Hulk. He didn't use stones during the entire fight with Iron Man either. His striking power is enough to one shot super soldier tier characters. What's this talk about Thanos not having feats without the stones?
@cyanishere: He didn't use it though. I don't remember any purple colors appearing as he beat up Hulk. There are colors for each stone and I can't remember a single time there was no glow while a stone's power was being used.
@rebake: It glowed just just before he fought Hulk. I refuse to believe he's stronger than Hulk without the stone. He had him bloodied and on the floor, and Hulk has ever only bleed twice before that.
@screwthanos: It wasn't just strength but skill and combat speed. Hulk wasn't able to defend properly. Even if Thanos is a tiny bit weaker, that skill edge makes up for it and then some. Just look at how Thanos dismantled Hulk. Hulk's not an excellent fighter even though he got better over the two years on Sakaar. Thanos also wore his full body armor against the Hulk, I don't know how much of a difference that makes.
@rebake: Outside of Thanos even being comparable in the strength department those were good points. Problem is it was straight up PIS how went down in under a minute, the same guy who duked it out with Hulkbuster and Abomination for long indefinite amount of time along with a prolonged fight with Thor and his god lightning, he's received beatings far worse than what Thanos dished out but yet the movie just had to instantly unbelievably drop him then stupidly write him out of the rest of the film.
@kgb725: Hulk one shotted him after a combined assault from Thor, Ironman and Vision. Infact, Thor could barley even hold back Ultron when he was fighting him. He needed Vision to come to come save him. Ultron would destroy Thanos without any stones.
Thanos straight up emasculated hulk to the point where hulk didn't want to show his face. Now if I misinterpreted the reason why hulk wouldn't show... someone can definitely correct me.
@screwthanos: Exactly. That was my biggest problem with Infinity War. There were a few inconsistencies with power portrayals in the movie, with Thanos beating down Hulk being the worst offender, IMO.
Thanos physically overpowered and forced Hulk's hand's and arm's away from his neck like it was nothing. That is pure strength alone. Thanos is definitely shown to be stronger than Hulk.
Thanos straight up emasculated hulk to the point where hulk didn't want to show his face. Now if I misinterpreted the reason why hulk wouldn't show... someone can definitely correct me.
You didn't misinterpret. It's quite obvious that Thanos is just more physically OP than anyone Hulk's has fought yet. And Thanos can obviously hit far harder than the Abomination or the Hulkbuster suite.
@kgb725: Actually it is. Thor has similar feats to what Hulk has achieved. While Hulk flipped over a Leviathan in the Avengers movie, Thor easily killed a giant frost beast in his movie. He also held back Hulk fist when Hulk was trying to squish him on the helicarrier. Thor was holding back while Hulk was furious.
You are also implying that Hulk is more powerful than Vision, Thor and Iron man combined. That is an idea that is flat out wrong. And the fact of the matter is, Thanos is featless without infinity stones.
@mister_surreal: hulk is always furious also Thor needed 2 arms to hold back Hulks 1 hand. Thor was flying at high speeds and killed the beast using Mjolnir he cant do that without his trusty hammer
Thanos beat Hulk and took out Tony with his bare hands after he made him bleed
@kgb725: Thanos beat up Hulk so easily because he had the power stone. He also took out Tony with four stones. Thanos has nothing here. And again, it took all three characters just to do any sort of damage to Ultron.
When he beat up Hulk, that was the one stone that he had. As for the other time, he used it passively. The power stone canonically greatly enhances your physical strength and durability.
@kgb725: The power stone is. It's the same way how in Guardians of the Galaxy, Ronin tanked the weapon that should have killed him without activating the power stone. In that case it was indeed passive.
@kgb725: The blast from the gun that Rocket created. He was hit directly in the chest. He also tanked being hit by the Milano and being inside the Dark Aster when it crashed.
@mister_surreal: theres no evidence they enhance strength, durability, or act passively. Ronan tanked it because he is insanely durable, which is evident from him taking draxs punches without so much as moving
Thanos doesn't have feats to scratch pure Vibranium. He killed Vision but Vision isn't fully Vibranium. He's mostly artificial tissue from Dr Cho's regeneration cradle. The Vibrianium atoms only act has binding medium. Also Thanos had the power stone while killing Vision and the power stone increases strength and durability of the user like it did in case of Ronan.
Hulk was able to punch Ultron away only after his Vibranium outer shell was destroyed by the combined assault of Thor, Vision and Stark. Before that Ultron manhandled Thor and Thor was completely at his mercy. Moreover, Ultron has other advantages like Flight, Energy beams and some form of Telekinesis/Magnetism. He can definitely beat Thanos. Base Thanos is just stronger than Hulk. No other abilities. Given how Ultron manhandled Thor, he should be much stronger than Hulk too.
Thanos doesn't have feats to even scratch Vibranium.
Hulk was able to punch Ultron away only after his Vibranium outer shell was destroyed by the combined assault of Thor, Vision and Stark. Before that Ultron manhandled Thor and Thor was completely at his mercy. Moreover, Ultron has other advantages like Flight, Energy beams and some form of Telekinesis/Magnetism. He can definitely beat Thanos. Base Thanos is just stronger than Hulk. No other abilities. Given how Ultron manhandled Thor, he should be much stronger than Hulk too.
What about when he ripped the mind-stone out of Vision's head with his fingers?
On topic Thanos should take this easily. He has already crushed vibranium with his fingers and Ultron has nothing that can harm him.
@deltahuman: what are you talking about, Thanos crushed visions heads with minimal effort with his finger tips. Don’t bring up the argument that the stones helped him because none of them were being used atm
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