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Posted by imsososorry (514 posts) 8 months, 17 days ago

Poll: Mcu ultron vs thanos (112 votes)

Thanos 72%
Ultron 28%

Thanos has no gems

Ultron has vibranium armor

Takes place on titan

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#1 Posted by kgb725 (17928 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos beat everyone who killed Ultron

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#2 Posted by ScrewThanos (101 posts) - - Show Bio

With no gems lmaooo he gets destroyed. Whatever off screen magic he did to Thor won't save him here. Nanotech Ironman was getting plenty of licks in, his only downfall was lack of piercing and indestructibility. Ultron is vibranium, heated arm blade, and telekinesis. He can't win.

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#3 Posted by CyanIsHere (369 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos has no stone-less feats.

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#6 Posted by KingTchalla03 (662 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos owns him. There’s a reason they were saving him for last.

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#7 Posted by ScrewThanos (101 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: Got bfred by Hulk, not beaten. There isn't a damn thing Hulk could do ti actually beat Ultron outside of repeatedly tossing him around until they both got bored.

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#8 Posted by kgb725 (17928 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Posted by ScrewThanos (101 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: No? And if so it was because beforehand he had just taken a massive energy assault from Vison, Ironman, and Thor that melted his body. Something Thanos can't replicate to weaken him.

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#10 Posted by juiceboks (24536 posts) - - Show Bio

I think stomping Hulk is enough to say Ultron is out of his league.

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#11 Posted by Watertaco (452 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos has no stone-less feats.

And he still beats Ultron into the ground, even taking in this (irrelevant) fact.

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#12 Posted by Rebake (3793 posts) - - Show Bio

Beating up Hulk is a feat. He's shown striking power that can damage the Hulk. He didn't use stones during the entire fight with Iron Man either. His striking power is enough to one shot super soldier tier characters. What's this talk about Thanos not having feats without the stones?

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#13 Posted by CyanIsHere (369 posts) - - Show Bio

@rebake: He had the power stone when he fought Hulk

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#14 Edited by CyanIsHere (369 posts) - - Show Bio

@watertaco: Lol, I voted for Thanos. I was just putting that out there.

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#15 Posted by Rebake (3793 posts) - - Show Bio

@cyanishere: He didn't use it though. I don't remember any purple colors appearing as he beat up Hulk. There are colors for each stone and I can't remember a single time there was no glow while a stone's power was being used.

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#16 Posted by ScrewThanos (101 posts) - - Show Bio

@rebake: It glowed just just before he fought Hulk. I refuse to believe he's stronger than Hulk without the stone. He had him bloodied and on the floor, and Hulk has ever only bleed twice before that.

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#17 Posted by Rebake (3793 posts) - - Show Bio

@screwthanos: It wasn't just strength but skill and combat speed. Hulk wasn't able to defend properly. Even if Thanos is a tiny bit weaker, that skill edge makes up for it and then some. Just look at how Thanos dismantled Hulk. Hulk's not an excellent fighter even though he got better over the two years on Sakaar. Thanos also wore his full body armor against the Hulk, I don't know how much of a difference that makes.

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#18 Edited by killers10333 (3412 posts) - - Show Bio

The stones dont boost strength or durability...

Thanos ripped through visions head (which is vibranium). Wanda has bent it

He wins

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#19 Posted by Helloman (26689 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos wins.

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#20 Posted by ProteusXManRxis (4445 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos.

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#21 Posted by ScrewThanos (101 posts) - - Show Bio

@rebake: Outside of Thanos even being comparable in the strength department those were good points. Problem is it was straight up PIS how went down in under a minute, the same guy who duked it out with Hulkbuster and Abomination for long indefinite amount of time along with a prolonged fight with Thor and his god lightning, he's received beatings far worse than what Thanos dished out but yet the movie just had to instantly unbelievably drop him then stupidly write him out of the rest of the film.

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#22 Edited by Mister_Surreal (6177 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: Hulk one shotted him after a combined assault from Thor, Ironman and Vision. Infact, Thor could barley even hold back Ultron when he was fighting him. He needed Vision to come to come save him. Ultron would destroy Thanos without any stones.

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#23 Posted by kgb725 (17928 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by o0Deadman0o (439 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos straight up emasculated hulk to the point where hulk didn't want to show his face. Now if I misinterpreted the reason why hulk wouldn't show... someone can definitely correct me.

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#25 Posted by Subline (5077 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos > Hulk > Ultron

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#26 Posted by CyborgZod (927 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos smacks him down hard

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#27 Posted by LEGACY6364 (7408 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos.

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#28 Posted by Amcu (15421 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos.

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#29 Posted by sportjames23 (1026 posts) - - Show Bio

@screwthanos: Exactly. That was my biggest problem with Infinity War. There were a few inconsistencies with power portrayals in the movie, with Thanos beating down Hulk being the worst offender, IMO.

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#30 Edited by jagernutt (15769 posts) - - Show Bio

@rebake:

Thanos physically overpowered and forced Hulk's hand's and arm's away from his neck like it was nothing. That is pure strength alone. Thanos is definitely shown to be stronger than Hulk.

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#31 Edited by jagernutt (15769 posts) - - Show Bio

@o0deadman0o said:

Thanos straight up emasculated hulk to the point where hulk didn't want to show his face. Now if I misinterpreted the reason why hulk wouldn't show... someone can definitely correct me.

You didn't misinterpret. It's quite obvious that Thanos is just more physically OP than anyone Hulk's has fought yet. And Thanos can obviously hit far harder than the Abomination or the Hulkbuster suite.

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#32 Edited by Mister_Surreal (6177 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: Actually it is. Thor has similar feats to what Hulk has achieved. While Hulk flipped over a Leviathan in the Avengers movie, Thor easily killed a giant frost beast in his movie. He also held back Hulk fist when Hulk was trying to squish him on the helicarrier. Thor was holding back while Hulk was furious.

You are also implying that Hulk is more powerful than Vision, Thor and Iron man combined. That is an idea that is flat out wrong. And the fact of the matter is, Thanos is featless without infinity stones.

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#33 Posted by kgb725 (17928 posts) - - Show Bio

@mister_surreal: hulk is always furious also Thor needed 2 arms to hold back Hulks 1 hand. Thor was flying at high speeds and killed the beast using Mjolnir he cant do that without his trusty hammer

Thanos beat Hulk and took out Tony with his bare hands after he made him bleed

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#34 Edited by Mister_Surreal (6177 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: Thanos beat up Hulk so easily because he had the power stone. He also took out Tony with four stones. Thanos has nothing here. And again, it took all three characters just to do any sort of damage to Ultron.

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#36 Edited by Mister_Surreal (6177 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725:

When he beat up Hulk, that was the one stone that he had. As for the other time, he used it passively. The power stone canonically greatly enhances your physical strength and durability.

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#38 Edited by Mister_Surreal (6177 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: The power stone is. It's the same way how in Guardians of the Galaxy, Ronin tanked the weapon that should have killed him without activating the power stone. In that case it was indeed passive.

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#39 Posted by kgb725 (17928 posts) - - Show Bio

@mister_surreal: Just touching the gems releases all of its energy if the person touching it cant handle it.

What weapon did Ronan get hit with?

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#40 Edited by Mister_Surreal (6177 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: The blast from the gun that Rocket created. He was hit directly in the chest. He also tanked being hit by the Milano and being inside the Dark Aster when it crashed.

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#41 Posted by killers10333 (3412 posts) - - Show Bio

@mister_surreal: theres no evidence they enhance strength, durability, or act passively. Ronan tanked it because he is insanely durable, which is evident from him taking draxs punches without so much as moving

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#44 Posted by jagernutt (15769 posts) - - Show Bio

@mister_surreal:

MCU interviews with the Russo brothers have made it perfectly clear that Thanos is simply stronger than the Hulk.

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#45 Edited by jagernutt (15769 posts) - - Show Bio

@mister_surreal:

The power gem is actively being used when Ronan gets hit. It's glowing the entire time Ronan has it.

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#46 Edited by Mister_Surreal (6177 posts) - - Show Bio
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#47 Posted by Alavanka (1935 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos stomps.

I cannot for the life of me understand why Ultron is considered a top tier. Vision, Ultron's superior in every conceivable way, is weaker than Thanos.

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#48 Edited by deltahuman (4925 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron takes this.

Thanos doesn't have feats to scratch pure Vibranium. He killed Vision but Vision isn't fully Vibranium. He's mostly artificial tissue from Dr Cho's regeneration cradle. The Vibrianium atoms only act has binding medium. Also Thanos had the power stone while killing Vision and the power stone increases strength and durability of the user like it did in case of Ronan.

Hulk was able to punch Ultron away only after his Vibranium outer shell was destroyed by the combined assault of Thor, Vision and Stark. Before that Ultron manhandled Thor and Thor was completely at his mercy. Moreover, Ultron has other advantages like Flight, Energy beams and some form of Telekinesis/Magnetism. He can definitely beat Thanos. Base Thanos is just stronger than Hulk. No other abilities. Given how Ultron manhandled Thor, he should be much stronger than Hulk too.

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#49 Posted by Doofasa (1628 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron takes this.

Thanos doesn't have feats to even scratch Vibranium.

Hulk was able to punch Ultron away only after his Vibranium outer shell was destroyed by the combined assault of Thor, Vision and Stark. Before that Ultron manhandled Thor and Thor was completely at his mercy. Moreover, Ultron has other advantages like Flight, Energy beams and some form of Telekinesis/Magnetism. He can definitely beat Thanos. Base Thanos is just stronger than Hulk. No other abilities. Given how Ultron manhandled Thor, he should be much stronger than Hulk too.

What about when he ripped the mind-stone out of Vision's head with his fingers?

On topic Thanos should take this easily. He has already crushed vibranium with his fingers and Ultron has nothing that can harm him.

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#50 Posted by imsososorry (514 posts) - - Show Bio

@deltahuman: what are you talking about, Thanos crushed visions heads with minimal effort with his finger tips. Don’t bring up the argument that the stones helped him because none of them were being used atm