MCU: Thor vs Scarlet Witch

Wanda.

Morals off Thor immdeiately one-shots the glass canon with lightning.

Thor in a mismatch.

Thor would win in MCU match without prep time or something. Comic Wanda can beat comic Thor though.

Thor. 2 durable

Thor one shots Wanda.

Thor is probably faster and not a glass canon. He just fries her with lightning. This isn't close at all. It's a mismatch.

@webinyoureye11: Thor stomps. Mismatch.

Thor stomps in every conceivable way.

By feats Wanda can probably blitz, or at least keep up with Thor. lol.

And it is not like she would have much of a problem harming Thor.

Also Wanda hasn't used TP in the last 2 of the 3 films she has been in, despite being in a number of situations where it would be extremely useful. Either the Russo`s are just ignoring that she had that ability or its totally out of character for her use it.

This is a mismatch. Thor fries her instantly. She only has a chance if she starts off out of his view and can maybe sneak up on him, but there is no reason Thor doesn't just immediately send lightning at her.

@amcu: Where would TP have been useful in CW or IW?

@jayc1324: Against team Iron Man. Would have been a quick and easy way to resolve the conflict without anyone being in danger.

In IW it would have been extremely useful against Proxima and Corvus. She clearly wasn't winning in a straight fight. TP would have granted her a quick and easy victory.

I don't think she is able to use it in combat. She has to get her hands right next to their heads without them resisting and anyone with skill isn't letting that happen since she has no physical fighting skills

@jayc1324: She controlled a vast quantity of people in Sokovia.

I hate autocorrect.

don't remember that but ok, yeah i guess they just don't like her using that power. She would be OP with it

I mean, Thor wins

Power could be argued Pre Stormbreaker, but even then, Thor has battled against Loki and Malekith while they held Infinity stones. If he has Mjonir or Stormbreaker, he stomps.

@jayc1324:

No she didn't.

The city was being evacuated and she used her power to increase the fear, they were leaving because they were afraid, she used the same power to make Hulk angry.

She can't control people and she can only mind rape with her hands close to the person's head.

@laiks stake: You see a family sitting down eating like nothing is wrong and than they just get up and leave. If you want to call that just increasing fear than cool.

Also the R word isn't allowed IIRC.

Scarlet Witch. Thor would win easily if he had mjolnir, but he doesn't. He's still strong with no weapons, but wouldn't be strong enough to withstand Scarlet Witch's powers.

I agree. Weapons are making Thor strong, without them, he would lose to Wanda for sure.

Wanda got better but still not good enough

Weapons or no weapons, Thor would win. Only difference is with Stormbreaker it would be a stomp, and unarmed it could be close.

Thor can take physical hits from Hulk and energy blasts from a star or power stone. Nothing in Wanda's arsenal can outmatch a star or Thanos' using the power gem to blow a ship. On the other hand, Thor has lightning strikes would oneshot from range, and his punches would oneshot in melee. Mind control has never beaten an opponent that was focused on fighting her. I'd say we've only seen true mind controlled used against fodders, but Sokovians aren't even fodders. Outriders are fodders, Chitauri are fodders, Ultron-sentries are fodders. Sokovian civilians are sub-fodder. If she couldn't mind control Proxima, Corvus, or Thanos, she's not going to all of a sudden start mind controlling Thor. She might be able to give him a vision if he gets taken by surprise, but in any other scenario Thor wins the first and only exchange of attacks.

Thor wins

@soratoumiga: Without weapons, Thor fought Hulk and won, was fast enough to jump around spaceship to spaceship and one shot them in Sakaar, created lightning as big as Asgards palace (which is super big), survived Thanos with the power stone and the explosion of his ship, survived the vacuum of space, was able to lift Rockets spaceship fast enough to free gigantic rings in ZERO gravity, and also survived (although barely) a concentrated beam of point blank heat from a small star.

What is Scarlet Witch going to do to him? His durability, speed, skill, and strength are much greater.

In CW, War Machine took her down with one sonic blast.

In IW, Proxima Midnight almost took her out with fighting skill alone.

Her powers come from the Mind Stone, the Stone is more powerful than either one of his weapons, if she attacks him by surprise she can bring him down. If he doesn't have the weapons, he has no speed advantage. I dislike the fact that she's kind of a glass canon in MCU, when she isn't like that in comics.

Mind stone is not stronger than Stormbreaker. Thor has beaten Loke with the mind stone, Malekith with the reality stone, and Thanos with the gauntlet. Scarlet Witch's only win conditions are to mess with his mind after catching him off guard. Thor's win conditions is to literally tag her with anything. Stormbreaker, lightning, a bare-handed strike. Literally any attack in Thor's arsenal can knock out Wanda, given that Wanda should be below super soldiers like Cap in durability and physicality.

@soratoumiga: Even without weapons, she isn't faster than lightning.

Also her powers are only as strong as her will or sometimes her emotional turmoil too. She is not as strong as the mind stone nor as durable.

Even in the comics, Thor has proven to have countless more feats that put him above most mutants, including her.

Hmm, in MCU, yeah, in comics, no. You remember the "No more mutants"? I don't think Thor has any feat above that...

Thor would win easily.

Odinson

Thor fairly easy she's a glass cannon and can't react to lightning

Thor wins.

@soratoumiga: Another one off feat that happened due to her mental instability.

When it comes to proper battle feats, Thor has better.

We can scale them off when they fought 1/2 Phoenix Force Emma Frost.

Thor nearly won and was able to destroy her diamond form (which is already pretty durable without the Phoenix Force) in ONE hit.

Wandas magic however was too weak to harm them at that point of power. She could when they held a fifth of that force.

Thor can take her out too easily since she has no durability. All it takes is one hit for him to end her, meanwhile, as powerful as she is, she is not taking Thor out with just a few shots

She actually said she can do "No more mutants" again. And also, Wanda defeated Dark Phoenix Cyclops who held the entire Phoenix Force within him.

Thor wins. Both are very powerful but only Thor has superhuman physical stats to complement his powers

Thor roflstomps.

King Thor, Old King Thor, Old King Necro Thor, Rune King Thor.

Pick one.

Hmm, Rune King is the most powerful, and still doesn't beat HoM Scarlet Witch.

@soratoumiga: She didn't though. She channeled her magic with Hope Summers (who learned the Iron Fist) to beat Cyclops.

A counter btw that was created specifically to beat the Phoenix that did not exist in canon until that story.

Thor.

Thor stomps with Stormbreaker. Thor stomps with Mjolnir. Thor stomps if you strip him naked and disarm him of all his weapons. The only scenario he doesn't stomp is if you use the weakened Thor from Avengers 1, take away Mjolnir, strip him naked, then make the starting distance 50+ feet.

It really depends on Wanda's emotional state. If this is her on a regular day, then she gets one shotted. But if she gets angry, she could hold back Thor and rip his heart out like she did to Ultron in his vibranium body.

Normal Wanda: DIes in a couple of seconds

Angry Wanda: Kills Thor.

@mister_surreal: Emotional Wanda couldn't stop Thanos from walking his way through her blast. She's not stopping Thor from tagging her with lightning, seeing as Thor can hit Hela while he's completely pinned. People forget that Hulk did like 90% of the work in beating Ultron. Ultron's body was battered and crippled after Hulk threw him from the plane. Ultron was already wrecked at that point, and the only thing Wanda did is rip the heart out of a helpless opponent. Even if you say Ultron had vibranium, Hulk can dent vibranium alloys in AOS, Corvus can cut vibranium with his spear, and Thanos can crush vibranium with his fingertips... So it's not exactly an end-all-be-all feat.

Still Wanda, if she's serious enough.