The Carol we were seeing at the end of the movie probably can't even be touched by Thor or Hulk. She doesn't have much for durability feats if she does get tagged though.
Thor drops his weapon like he always does when getting hit really hard then gets pounded to death by the duo
Like he never does.
You mean like he always does???
Against Loki (Thor 1)
Against Iron Man (Avengers 1)
Against Hulk (Avengers 1)
Against Loki again (Avengers 1)
Against Kurse (Thor 2)
Against Malekith (Thor 2)
Against Ultron (AoU)
Against Hela on the Bifrost but this time its swords instead of a hammer (Ragnarok)
And don't tell me he never dropped Stormbreaker because he never fought anything other than fodder with it unless you consider sucker punching Thanos then monologing a fight
Funny how folks love to bring up all the times Thor has dropped his weapons in combat while totally ignoring the times DCEU Diana has dropped her sword in combat.
@bdelloidgrain2: The spaceship's size is irrelevant because its weight and durability are unquantifiable. Unless the spaceship's exterior has feats on par with the Leviathan's in durability, you can't claim equality.
Thor's hammer can go from orbit to the ground in seconds. He can react to hypersonic projectiles.
Captain Marvel's flight speed may be better, but Thor's combat and reaction speeds are far better.
Why does the size of the spaceship not matter? Usually, the greater the size, the greater the weight. The more weight, the harder it would be to fly through.
Also, I don't understand what you mean by feats for the Leviathan's durability? Are you saying that something like an RPG would not work on it, but something like Thor's hammer would break it?
Judas bullets (from Chitauri armor) pierce Luke Cage.
Iron Man's laser couldn't even harm it.
They effortlessly plowed through buildings.
In Homecoming they were unable to take off the armor without using alien tech.
Those are feats (showings displaying their durability on-screen.) The spaceships have none.
Odds are, the greater the size, the higher the durability. Secondly, an alien spaceship with technology far beyond human capacity. That describes the Captain Marvel spaceships. I think you are lowballing Danvers a bit if I am to be honest with you.
I do agree that Thor would win, but it would not be as bad a stomp as you think. Carol Danvers is the third strongest good guy in the MCU (behind Thor and Strange).
@bdelloidgrain2: The spaceship's size is irrelevant because its weight and durability are unquantifiable. Unless the spaceship's exterior has feats on par with the Leviathan's in durability, you can't claim equality.
Thor's hammer can go from orbit to the ground in seconds. He can react to hypersonic projectiles.
Captain Marvel's flight speed may be better, but Thor's combat and reaction speeds are far better.
Why does the size of the spaceship not matter? Usually, the greater the size, the greater the weight. The more weight, the harder it would be to fly through.
Also, I don't understand what you mean by feats for the Leviathan's durability? Are you saying that something like an RPG would not work on it, but something like Thor's hammer would break it?
That's not really how it works though. A spaceship generally isn't going to be a solid mass. It's going to be a series of rooms and buildings. When Thor and Captain Marvel destroy spaceships by flying through them, they basically destroy everything in their path. What matters here is the durability of the materials they come into contact with, and there is probably no material on board the Kree ship that Thor can't ram through. Certainly there's no material on that ship that Thor can't penetrate with Stormbreaker. The only thing Thor might be unable to replicate is the speed in which he destroys the entire ship as Captain Marvel has a higher flight speed. But in so far as being able to blow up the ship? All Thor needs is time.
I agree that this fight won't be a stomp, no matter who wins tbh.
@bdelloidgrain2: The spaceship's size is irrelevant because its weight and durability are unquantifiable. Unless the spaceship's exterior has feats on par with the Leviathan's in durability, you can't claim equality.
Thor's hammer can go from orbit to the ground in seconds. He can react to hypersonic projectiles.
Captain Marvel's flight speed may be better, but Thor's combat and reaction speeds are far better.
Why does the size of the spaceship not matter? Usually, the greater the size, the greater the weight. The more weight, the harder it would be to fly through.
Also, I don't understand what you mean by feats for the Leviathan's durability? Are you saying that something like an RPG would not work on it, but something like Thor's hammer would break it?
That's not really how it works though. A spaceship generally isn't going to be a solid mass. It's going to be a series of rooms and buildings. When Thor and Captain Marvel destroy spaceships by flying through them, they basically destroy everything in their path. What matters here is the durability of the materials they come into contact with, and there is probably no material on board the Kree ship that Thor can't ram through. Certainly there's no material on that ship that Thor can't penetrate with Stormbreaker. The only thing Thor might be unable to replicate is the speed in which he destroys the entire ship as Captain Marvel has a higher flight speed. But in so far as being able to blow up the ship? All Thor needs is time.
I agree that this fight won't be a stomp, no matter who wins tbh.
True. The spaceship would not be solid mass. However, she must have flown through a reactor or something otherwise the ship wouldn't have exploded. Also, while not all of the ship was solid, a good chunk of what she flew through was solid.
@bdelloidgrain2: She wouldn't necessarily have to fly through a reactor for it to explode. Their powers can cause explosions on their own. Besides, if there was a reactor that would actually make it easier for Thor to blow it up. Captain Marvel flying through the interior of the kree ship is really no different from Thor flying through the interior of the outrider ships. We can pretty much expect that the interior of pretty much every spaceship to be roughly the same. Again there's no material on these ship that wouldn't be easy for Thor to fly through and destroy.
Reading back, I actually agree with your points on why Captain Marvel would be able to take down a leviathan. No reason she wouldn't with her feats tbh.
@bdelloidgrain2: She wouldn't necessarily have to fly through a reactor for it to explode. Their powers can cause explosions on their own. Besides, if there was a reactor that would actually make it easier for Thor to blow it up. Captain Marvel flying through the interior of the kree ship is really no different from Thor flying through the interior of the outrider ships. We can pretty much expect that the interior of pretty much every spaceship to be roughly the same. Again there's no material on these ship that wouldn't be easy for Thor to fly through and destroy.
Reading back, I actually agree with your points on why Captain Marvel would be able to take down a leviathan. No reason she wouldn't with her feats tbh.
You're right. Thor has displayed a similar feat. And Thor would be able to replicate this feat on the Kree ship. I still think that her flying through the spaceship and causing it to blow up is a solid enough feat for justifying at least being able to not get stomped by Thor.
@kanyecosby: @syntix: Sorry mate, Carol has almost planet level durability when she takes that massive power stone punch from thanos that not only broke the sound barrier but also sent her flying almost at the speed of sound
Hulk vs Thor can go either way since Hulk's physicals keeps him in the battle. Adding Carol should give the majority to the team, 9/10. I believe Thor gets a lucky win by blitzing any of them off guard but their healing factor, strenght advantages are too much for him.
Thor dies. CM hits him hard with a bullrush uses superior stats to disarm him and beats him down with a mix of physical superiority and energy blast to take him down. Adding in Hulk secures the victory.
@icec0ld: she doesn’t have better strength feats, hulk nearly knocked down surtur who at bare minimum is a planet buster, Thor almost killed thanos who with the power stone is more durable then moons and planets, Captain Marvel gets thrown by Thanos who isn’t even with the infinity Gauntlet. Captain Marvel dies and Hulk gives Thor a very good fight but Thor wins in the end. I’ve never seen Captain Marvel so overwanked when she has no feats that are even comparable to Hulk or Thor’s.
Log in to comment