MCU Thor vs DCEU Wonder Woman (4 ROUNDS)

Battles in Wakanda, Morals off, Bloodlusted

1. H2H Only, No Weapons, Pre Ragnarok

2. Thor Has Mjolnir, Wonder Woman has Sword Only

3. Both are in their God Modes, H2H only

4. Thor has Stormbreaker, Diana has her full Gear and in God Mode

@skywalker95: Thor slaughters every round. Thor is 2-3 times stronger than Diana

that's a vast understatement

@gamer-guy: he withstood a star, Diana couldn’t even win a tug of war with Clark.

1) Diana easily. She is a better H2H and overall has better strength feats than Pre-Ragnarok

2) Still Diana. With some to mid diff. She is a better fighter and Thor's attitude could cost him.

3) Diana absorbed God lightning lol.

4) Only round I see Thor winning.

Those two examples aren't comparable in any way.

Bloodlusted means Thor takes all rounds. None are close.

Wonder Woman beats Slowdinson all rounds. This is a fact.

thor would have snapped that lasso lol

@gamer-guy: Oh, this quote calls for a new thread. ?

DO IT!!!!

Wonder Woman wins the first three rounds and Thor the last round.

Diana blitzes Slowdinson in all rounds, but he has a chance for a lucky hit in the last one.

Wonder Woman wins riund 1 and 2, Thor wins round 3 and 4.

The only chance Diana has is in R1, but she severely lacks damage output using just her bare fists, while Thor easily tanked beatings from the Hulk. I'd still back Odinson.

He definitely wins the other 3

Blood lusted makes the second round unfair.

Could go either way in the first round.

Diana blitzes the second round.

Could go either way in the third round.

Thor wins a hard fight in the fourth round.

H2H Diana but Thor definitely takes the others

Thor takes R1 in a decent bout. Diana stomps the 3 other rounds combined.

Wonder Woman all rounds :)

R1: WW

R2: Thor

R3: could go either way, but I’ll lean to WW

R4: Thor

Okay then: Let's figure out a scale of ten about strength: Hulk would be 10, and Black Widow would be 1: Thor is about 9, while Wonder Woman is about 6 (around Iron Man's level). There's a clear difference, like there was a clear difference between Superman (a 10) and Wonder Woman. They're in another league.

That also applies to combat skills in Thor's case, BTW: MCU Thor is a much better fighter than his comic counterpart, and a lot of emphasis was put in his combat prowess: Every fight involving Thor is spectacular with the moves he does. Still, I am willing to give WW the edge in combat skill, because that's her schtick more than because it would be logic, given than Thor is a millenia-old warrior who lived his life fighting outworldly armies and monsters.

In the fights proposed by the OP, the first and third ones are close, with WW maybe even winning the first one if she resorts to holds, maybe a 5-5 case. In the third one, I am not sure about WW's "God Mode" but her aegis can deflect Thor's cloak for a while, but deflecting it towards Thor could only amp him up, IMO, and frankly I believe that Thor's output way overpowers that of Ares, because Thor is the God of Thunder after all. Also, lightning permeates Thor's whole form, amplifiying his strikes and is not just a projection weapon. Still that fight offers him some challenges, but he wins 7/10.

In the two other fight, he clearly overpowers WW (8/10 and 9/10, respectively), with the level of his weapons and his resistance to pointy, slashy stuff. Oh, he'll bleed, but it doesn't seem to matter that much to him - MCU Thor doesn't lack feats as a tanker.

In the MCU (and in pretty much everything Marvel), silly, time-stopping effect called "super speed" is replaced by either reflexes or travel speed (you know, like in real life), except for bona fide speedsters like QS. Certainly you have seen the slomo shots when Thor fought Hulk, at least in two movies.

Marvel characters aren't slow - they're just less silly.

Thor all rounds. First one is the hardest.

Round 1: Thor isn’t losing in anyway. Thor actually has h2h feats with hulk. (The strongest striker) Diana would never put him down

Round 2,3,4 Thor wins with 3rd being the main challenge

@nucleon: Are you really comparing Wonder Woman’s strenght to Iron Man? Please, get out.

No, they're just slow. Wonder Woman would easily be the fastest character in the MCU right now and you have two speedsters faster than her.

Still Wonder Woman all rounds. Slowdinson can't keep up and his lightning empowers her.

Unless convinced otherwise, I do. DCEU WW has next to no strength feats at all. So calm yourself.

@thearchon: war machine replicated her best strength feat and more with ease. Diana is weak

Lol at those saying Diana takes round 1. Post striking feats for her. The second Thor holds her hand, he breaks it then breaks her body in half while caving in her skull

They're quite fast, and it's easy to see; No need for slomo gimmicks, just watch them go right there, on the screen. Does the Hulk stike you as being slow? What does it take, more slomo smoke & mirrors for dummies? The Hulk is more consistantly fast than Wonder Woman, just look at him move, all of the time. She has no feat than equals the Hulk catching a point-blank ejecting seat that surprised him. And Thor dances around his blows. And Quicksilver as pictured in X-Men is even faster than the Flash. Stop lowballing him - in the light of what's been filmed it's ridiculous.

Like I wrote another poster, Marvel has no slomo gimmicks, just honest, rational speed with all the physics that it implies and that DC ignores, and reflexes, fast reflexes. Marvel characters' reflexes are well worth DC character's un-consistant bursts of super-speed/time-stopping powder to amaze and delight battle board simpletons.

And lightning doesn't "empower" WW - she just reflect it. WW isn't god of thunder - Thor is.

- Lifting and tossing the WW1 armored truck

-Lifting and then tossing the WW1 tank

- Able to hold Doomsday in place with her lasso, albeit Doomsday being weakened by Kryrptonite some moments after she started her lasso grip and the only real reason she lost her grip was due to the ground beneath her breaking.

- Stopping Doomsday's strike cold turkey

- Resisting Clark in a tug of war before the ground beneath her breaking.

@batman242: war machine casually lifted tanks flow them distances and tossed them. That’s much above whatever Diana has done. And thus Rhodes>>>>>>>Diana in physical strength

Irrelevant.

She had a sharp weapon and he was weary of it.

Clark wasn’t even trying. The second he tried she lost. That’s not a feat for her at all.

@batman242 said:

@nucleon said:

@thearchon said:

@nucleon: Are you really comparing Wonder Woman’s strenght to Iron Man? Please, get out.

Unless convinced otherwise, I do. DCEU WW has next to no strength feats at all. So calm yourself.

- Lifting and tossing the WW1 armored truck

-Lifting and then tossing the WW1 tank

- Able to hold Doomsday in place with her lasso, albeit Doomsday being weakened by Kryrptonite some moments after she started her lasso grip and the only real reason she lost her grip was due to the ground beneath her breaking.

- Stopping Doomsday's strike cold turkey

- Resisting Clark in a tug of war before the ground beneath her breaking.

The tank that Rhodey transported was probably heavier. And War Machine is primitive compared to Iron Man. In the head-bust contest, WW had about as much "success" against dug-up Supes as Iron Man had in his one against Thor.

What we have here is people who intensely highball WW while intensely lowballing Iron Man.

1. Is much more of a fair fight than people seem to think. This can honestly go either way. Thor's output isn't enough to do any real damage to Diana and the same goes for Diana. Thor has the advantage in endurance and Diana in speed. I'm gonna go with Thor ultimately.

2. The only weapon Diana needs in a fight like this. Thor doesn't use his advantage of flight unless his opponent literally forces him into the air or he's already there before the fight has started. He will get in range of Diana and make it a CQC despite having many ranged attacks. He'll lose here due to Diana's speed and sword.

3. This is more even than the first round. Diana can counter Thor's lightning and she still doesn't have the output to hurt him, nor him her. Stalemate here.

4. Siding with Diana here.

What happens if Thor hits the ground with his hammer? Some people here place all of their eggs in the speed basket.

@faradaysloth: @xmangog__beastx: Explain how someone with zero striking feats is winning the first round

@kylebroflovski: That's a rather weak counterpoint.

@thearchon: Tony is stronger WW has no class 100 feats or above Tony has several.

@nucleon: Lmao I know I'm sorry, I was just laughing so hard after I read that all I could manage was a GIF.

You contradicted yourself in your own statement. You said Hulk is consistently faster then proceeded to bring up the one verifiable speed feat he has. Wonder Woman is consistently faster and even her lowest end speed feat is better than that. I don't know what X-Men Quicksilver has to do with anything.

There is a difference between bullet timing and slo mo, it is not a gimmick and it's used to emphasize the speed and perception of a user. I can direct you to a thread I go in depth on that.

No she's not, she's the current God of War in the DCEU. That's better than a puny lightning God.

That's not the Hulk's sole speed feat - he was evading 20mm-armed choppers in the first movie, plucked out Chitauri scooters out of the air in the first Avengers one, fought the Abomination which catched missiles, reacted to the Veronica probe who came to boost the Hulkbuster armor etc etc - in fast, not a single time was he despicted as slow. Damn, man, just look at him move in his every movie. That's what I am saying; The Hulk is consistantly fast, very fast. He has amazing reflexes and surprising muscle-born speed. This isn't the Thing we're talking about here - it's the Hulk.

Thor can be even faster: Did you saw him get out of the wall, take out the hammer and strike the Hulk in the Grandmaster's arena? If that had been filmed in slomo then you'd have no more doubts about Thor being super-fast.

Maybe it's because I worked with scenarios before, but I for one isn't mesmerized by the Hollywoodian fairy dust that are slomo moves: I prefer genuine speed on-screen, like one can see in numerous Marvel fights or in John Wick - althought they're not above abusing on the slomo themselves here and there.

@ecoblitz:

war machine casually lifted tanks flow them distances and tossed them. That’s much above whatever Diana has done. And thus Rhodes>>>>>>>Diana in physical strength

I wasn't comparing her to anyone. The statement I was replying to was, and I quote;

"DCEU WW has next to no strength feats at all."

You're jumping the gun here, she has quite a few strength feats was the point I was making....

Irrelevant.

To the fact that it's a strength feat? I think not.

She had a sharp weapon and he was weary of it.

Few things wrong here. 1 being that Doomsday is a mindless creature that's only trying to destroy his targets without bias. 2 being that she raised that sword a moment after his fist would've connected, so there's no way he'd have noticed that that's what she was doing. A strike isn't continuous force, it's just initial. There's nothing that suggests he dampened the initial force in his strike within that short a frame of time, so she had to stop that fist cold turkey right there and then. It's probably her greatest strength feat and surely trumps her tank and armored truck feats. So Diana is well over Rhodes in strength, sorry.

Clark wasn’t even trying. The second he tried she lost. That’s not a feat for her at all.

The fact that he had to put some sort of effort into dragging her and was stalemated once she got sufficient footing makes it a feat for her. He had to put actual work in to drag her. It's a feat.

I don't know why you have this idea that I was out to compare her to anyone, but I was simply providing feats of strength.

I never said Hulk was slow, but to say he's faster than Wonder Woman is flat out incorrect. I don't know why you would think that.

There were slo mo shots in that fight and he still looked slow. Wonder Woman is actually dodging bullets in her slo mo scenes, hence the difference.

@nucleon: You, just like EcoBlitz are under the impression I was out to compare her to someone. You said she has little to no strength feats and I simply provided a few. I don't know why you're bringing the Iron Men into this when they're not even in this thread...

What happens if Thor hits the ground with his hammer? Some people here place all of their eggs in the speed basket.

A shockwave... One that Diana can dodge by running back, leaping into the air or darting at Thor before his telegraphed strike reaches the ground.

Thor wins all.

@ecoblitz: Oh yeah? He caught the fist of someone trying to crush him with the strenght of Doomsday? She caught it with the blade of her sword. It stopped cold. Better luck next time.

Let’s compare two scene that were similar. The first one being Hulk trying to crush Thor with his fist. Thor was able to stop him with his hands.

The second one is Wonder Woman about to get crushed by Doomsday. Doomsday tries to crush her and she raises her sword to stop it. Using her blade, she’s able to stop it. It’s actually much harder to stop an attack of that type with a blade because you need to apply a lot of force on the blade while you are holding the grip.

It’s much better than Iron Man’s and War Machine’s strenght feats.